Was gospel of Christ intended for us?

[Hooper]

At the birth of Christ there were very few "Israelites" present in Israel. We know this from the OT.  So how is it possible that Israel rejected Christ? We see in James the words "to the twelve tribes scattered abroad". They didn't all leave in James' life time. They were spreading out of Israel since the time of king David. So what about the teaching of Messiah. What about the gospel He gave?



And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.





Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.



There is no way to know who the true Israelites are by any DNA testing. They are not the modern Jews who's religion is witchcraft and ritual murder. The gospel of Christ is for all men. You better learn what it is. There is no secret knowledge that will save your soul.

 

[FSSL]

Were these few Israelites Judah Jews or just Normal Jews?

Your main problem is not identifying the DNA. Your problem is a bastardized version of the Gospel. You don?t even believe the Scripture you posted.

 

[Hooper]

Were these few Israelites Judah Jews or just Normal Jews?

Your main problem is not identifying the DNA. Your problem is a bastardized version of the Gospel. You don?t even believe the Scripture you posted.

There could've been some of both. There were true Israelites living in Israel when Christ was born that could've been following Judaism. They would've been called Jews because of their religion. However the modern jew today is Khazar.  There are also so Sephardim Jews which are different genetically then the Khazars.  It's really simple.  The three verses  I posted clearly destroy the need for Paul's Gospel.  Please use your perfect scripture to explain how these verses are  saying something different than what I believe them to be saying. Is your mind so polluted that you can't even decipher truth when it's right in your face?

 

[FSSL]

Lol


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[Route_70]

We see in James the words "to the twelve tribes scattered abroad".

I?ve often wondered about this.  Was James actually writing to members of all 12 tribes of Israel?  How did he expect for them all to see his epistle?  The ten tribes of the kingdom of Israel had been deported 800 years before James? time, so how could he be writing to them, and why?

the modern jew today is Khazar.  There are also so Sephardim Jews which are different genetically then the Khazars.  It's really simple.

These people here don?t realize that there are different Jewish sects, denominations ? whatever you want to call it.  The majority of Jews living in Israel today identify as either atheist or agnostic, and could care less about any ?Messiah.?  Very few are orthodox.

DNA studies on Jews show that at least 85% are more related to the Poles, Russians, and Lithuanians than they are to the other 15% of Jews, who are more closely related to the Palestinians!  Yes, that is correct!  DNA studies on the Palestinians reveal that they are more closely tied to Palestine/ Israel than 85% of the Jews!

 

[FSSL]

These people here don?t realize that there are different Jewish sects, denominations ? whatever you want to call it.

These people here do not care about your wild-eyed DNA silliness.

We know there are differences among JEWS. We know there has been mixed marriages between other cultures.

Being a JEW does not demand a certain percentage of DNA. If it does, tell us where you limit it. Are they Jew if they are over 50%?

See the absurdity?

What is hilarious is someone talking about the Jews with absolutely no idea that they are related to the word ?Judah? and they misspell the greatest Jew?s name!

This is comical

 

[Route_70]

These people here do not care about your wild-eyed DNA silliness.

That explains their gross ignorance.

Tell me: what is 50% of a Jew?  Have you not read anything I have written?  Do you not understand simple math?

Any one of Abraham's 10th generation descendants contains only 0.09765625% of Abraham's DNA.  That is a loooong way from 50%!

And since it is not possible to aquire any of Abraham's DNA, then it is not possibel to even make a comparison.

Pull your head of that place where the sun does not shine.

 

[FSSL]

Then you believe there are ZERO Jews.


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[Route_70]

Then you believe there are ZERO Jews.

Correct!!!!!

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." ~~ Rev. 2:9

To be more specific, there are those who claim to be descended from Abraham, or the Children of Israel.  Well, it is true.  But DNA and mathematics combine to show that all of us contain at least some DNA material related to everyone who lived just 2000 years ago.  So, if having even some of Abraham?s DNA makes a person a Jew, then everyone alive today is a Jew.

Think about it: a person?s family tree does not spread out indefinitely.  Eventually it must converge at the top.  You start at the bottom with yourself; then branch two ways (mother and father); then out and out; until it begins to converge back again, eventually to one mother and father (Noah and his wife, maybe?) however many years go.

Scientists believe there is a Mitochondrial ?Eve? who lived 200,000 years ago, from whom all of use descended.  I know you have heard of this.

Whether you believe in Mitochondrial Eve or Noah and his wife ? either way ? your family tree is tapered at both ends like this:

Not tapered only at one end like this:

 

[FSSL]

Well then... it appears that I am not the ignorant one.


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[Route_70]

Well then... it appears that I am not the ignorant one.

You are not just ignorant.  You wallow in it.

 

[Jo]

How in the world has this guy had only positive karma/feedback?!


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[Route_70]

How in the world has this guy had only positive karma/feedback?!

I wonder the same thing.  I would give myself negative karma, but apparently there is no button for that.

 

[FSSL]

But you have an infinite amount of negative karma and my server is not able to calculate it.


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[T-Bone]

To get back to the OP...since there is only one gospel, the answer is yes. Okay now what's the next question? Oh I see one popped ups in a discussion...are there any Jews today? Again, the answer is yes. These are too easy. Next question?

 

[Route_70]

are there any Jews today?

"I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not." ~~ Revelation 2:9

 

[FSSL]

English isn?t your domain either...

He is not saying ?Jews do not exist?
He is saying that there are blasphemers calling themselves Jews when they are not Jews. Just like some on this forum calling themselves Christians when they are not.


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[Route_70]

English isn?t your domain either...

He is not saying ?Jews do not exist?
He is saying that there are blasphemers calling themselves Jews when they are not Jews. Just like some on this forum calling themselves Christians when they are not.

That is your opinion, based on the fact that you already have your belief.  You cannot afford to change your belief, because that would cause too much of a paradigm shift in your life.

I do not base my belief on what I was told or what I was taught or what I want to believe.  I base my biblical belief on what the Bible says ? not on what it "means."

I have proved that there is no longer a group of people that is exclusively descended from Abraham.  I HAVE PROVED IT.  As I said, you refuse to accept my proof because of your obstinance.  The only other reason would be ignorance.  I don?t take you to be ignorant.

Insofar as any Promise or Birthright, I have already PROVED FROM THE BIBLE that God?s promise to Abraham did not apply to his physical descendants.

I have proved that Israel?s actions in occupying and settling the Gaza and the West Bank and the Golan Heights is a violation of international law.

Stop with the silly red herring and ad hominem arguments (?English isn?t your domain either...?) ? those are so sophomoric, and just make you look weak.

 

[ALAYMAN]

I do not base my belief on what I was told or what I was taught or what I want to believe.  I base my biblical belief on what the Bible says ? not on what it means.

This is the most telling statement about your belief structure that you have ever written on the FFF.

 

[Route_70]

I do not base my belief on what I was told or what I was taught or what I want to believe.  I base my biblical belief on what the Bible says ? not on what it means.

This is the most telling statement about your belief structure that you have ever written on the FFF.

Quite right.  I edited the comment, placing the word "means" in quotes.  I so often hear you and others saying what a verse "means," as opposed to what it "says."

Why do you do that?

You do that because you have to.  God forbid that what the Bible "says" contradicts what you "believe."