Wayne National Forest name-change proposed to Buckeye National Forest
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Other than attempts to control others by being offended, this may not be as bad as it gets. I never heard of Anthony Wayne; I don't know if he's a local hero. The writing slant of the article paints him as an ogre.
Certainly, the term Buckeye is synonymous with Ohio and would be an appropriate name for the Forrest.
What say ye, my Buckeye friend?
Certainly, the term Buckeye is synonymous with Ohio and would be an appropriate name for the Forrest.
What say ye, my Buckeye friend?
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I was hoping others would enter the fray and I would sit back and watch.
One of my work acquaintances sent me the link to that story. That National Park is virtually in our back yard. He is part Native American, but is about as conservative and patriotic as you can get, which is an interesting political mix. He didn't give his opinion, but I'd be interested on where he fell, but I'm guessing it would be on the side opposing the trend towards an erasing of history for woke-leaning rationale.
Having said that, I am admittedly ignorant on a lot of subjects, and history isn't my forte for sure. But to take a stab at it, I think I'm leery of the sort of bent towards revisionist history we are seeing in spades now. I think what we did to the Native Americans, as a general rule, was in many ways worse than what we did to promote and enshrine the awful and reprehensible stain of slavery. Wayne carried out the westward expansion of the vision of the colonial patriots, and squelched the British propensity to back the Native Americans standing in the way. He was a vital cog that suppressed the unification of the tribes of this region, which if successfully done by Tecumseh, would have been most definitely a different American story. So, to speak out both sides of my mouth
, I think we should acknowledge our mistakes, but I'm not sure we should be pulling down statues, renaming National Parks, and changing the names of military bases so flippantly.
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I'm sick of it. Lake Calhoun here was changed to lake BDE-MAKA-SKA, some unintelligible native American word.
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it means white earth sky in the dakota language.... not that hard to pronounce once you know the languages mechanics..... but i have no idea why they would give that name to a lake... or change the name of the other one either..... ..in fact i didn;t know anything at all about either lake or the person the first one was named after, until i saw the title of the o.p. here...... for a moment i thought wayne lake was named after john wayne.. ... . and i thought that isn;t fair... john wayne was a very outspoken supporter of native americans both in his movies and also his personal philosophy.... . ....not that he believed in giving the country back or changing already given names..... but he was not an enemy......
(btw... my middle name that i use here as my forum name has a meaning in dakota too.... worded slightly different than the navajo meaning.... but with the same overall idea behind it...)
I find it all a little over the top.
I would think native Americans would be proud that owners named their multi billion dollar teams after their tribe or group. Uncle Ben, Aunt Jemima, Eskimo Pie, Land O’Lakes and Cream of Wheat were some of the first minority symbols on mainline brands for me. Each of these are brands I grew up with. I always assumed the people on the box were the creators of the products. For me they are positive images of each of these ethnic groups. Since the branding changes on each of these products, I have not purchased a single one of these name brands. I am not going to reward companies for giving in to the left wing woke agenda. On a similar note because Mrs. Butterworth was white, she gets to remain on the shelves. I suspect the racist in our society are ecstatic they no longer have these African American icons in their pantry. They will be glad to purchase Pearl River Milling Company syrup because clearly that mill was owned by a rich white man.
I often wonder what the average person in these minority groups think about all this. I suspect they are not offended at all that their favorite NFL team is named after them. If I were a sea fairing pirate I would clearly be offended that a historic loosing team like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were named after my proud honorable profession.
When it comes to military bases, if we change the name of the bases, please stick to people who were war hero's or famous military leaders. I don't want to do basic training at Malcom X air base.
I would think native Americans would be proud that owners named their multi billion dollar teams after their tribe or group. Uncle Ben, Aunt Jemima, Eskimo Pie, Land O’Lakes and Cream of Wheat were some of the first minority symbols on mainline brands for me. Each of these are brands I grew up with. I always assumed the people on the box were the creators of the products. For me they are positive images of each of these ethnic groups. Since the branding changes on each of these products, I have not purchased a single one of these name brands. I am not going to reward companies for giving in to the left wing woke agenda. On a similar note because Mrs. Butterworth was white, she gets to remain on the shelves. I suspect the racist in our society are ecstatic they no longer have these African American icons in their pantry. They will be glad to purchase Pearl River Milling Company syrup because clearly that mill was owned by a rich white man.
I often wonder what the average person in these minority groups think about all this. I suspect they are not offended at all that their favorite NFL team is named after them. If I were a sea fairing pirate I would clearly be offended that a historic loosing team like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were named after my proud honorable profession.
When it comes to military bases, if we change the name of the bases, please stick to people who were war hero's or famous military leaders. I don't want to do basic training at Malcom X air base.
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On another note when my children were in my home I would always point out minorities who accomplished great things through hard work and ingenuity. Regardless of their politics or personal beliefs I would point out how in this country anyone can succeed. In our home it was never the color of their skin that mattered but the content of their character and the great things they accomplished in their lives regardless of their background.
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It's a game of control by way of pretending to be offended then leveraging white guilt.
I started inviting minorities into our home when our kids were small. We had Christmas dinner, Thanksgiving, Easter, New Years, Memorial Day, Labor Day, dinner with many, and almost all of them became lifelong friends. My kids all have what we would call minority friends, close friends. They all had someone of non white ancestry in their weddings. Better then me, I only had one black guy at my wedding.
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About 10 years ago, they renamed the Ottawa River Parkway as the John A. Macdonald Parkway, after our first prime minister.
Earlier this year they renamed it the "Kichi Zībī Mīkan," which is Algonquin for "Great River Road." Supposedly the change is due to Macdonald being PM during the creation of the residential school system, which tens of thousands of native children were forced to attend to assimilate them into western culture, and where many were abused.
Hence, because of our country's original sin, we are not allowed to remember the name of our first prime minister. But I can nearly guarantee no one is calling the parkway the "Kichi Zībī Mīkan."
Earlier this year they renamed it the "Kichi Zībī Mīkan," which is Algonquin for "Great River Road." Supposedly the change is due to Macdonald being PM during the creation of the residential school system, which tens of thousands of native children were forced to attend to assimilate them into western culture, and where many were abused.
Hence, because of our country's original sin, we are not allowed to remember the name of our first prime minister. But I can nearly guarantee no one is calling the parkway the "Kichi Zībī Mīkan."
Same here.
No one calls it BDE-MAKA-SKA. Everyone calls it Lake Calhoun, except college professors.