What is cross-dressing for a transgender?

[The Rogue Tomato]

Suppose a post-op transgender (male to female) gets saved.  "She" has hormone-induced fully-formed female features, including her facial structure, breasts, hips, etc.  She looks and feels like a woman, and believes changing back at this point is out of the question. 

She comes to you and asks, "What would be cross-dressing for me?  Dressing like a man, because I appear to be a woman?  Or dressing like a woman, because I was born male and am genetically male?"

What do you say? 

 

[Ransom]

Suppose a post-op transgender (male to female) gets saved.  "She" has hormone-induced fully-formed female features, including her facial structure, breasts, hips, etc.  She looks and feels like a woman, and believes changing back at this point is out of the question. . . .

What do you say?

If his* feminine form is "hormone-induced," then presumably it can be at least partially reverted by stopping the hormone treatment, no?  So he has contradicted himself.

* A mutilated man is not a woman.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

Suppose a post-op transgender (male to female) gets saved.  "She" has hormone-induced fully-formed female features, including her facial structure, breasts, hips, etc.  She looks and feels like a woman, and believes changing back at this point is out of the question. . . .

What do you say?

If his* feminine form is "hormone-induced," then presumably it can be at least partially reverted by stopping the hormone treatment, no?  So he has contradicted himself.

* A mutilated man is not a woman.

I have no idea if it's reversible.  If you gained breasts by the hormones, would they disappear when you stopped taking them?  Would your hips and facial features go back to being manly?  (At least the surgery isn't reversible, is it?  I mean, once you have it removed...)

Regardless, I was more interested in the question of what would be considered cross dressing (known by IFBxers as wimmens waring pants).  Sounds like you're leaning toward he/she/it must wear pants.

 

[Holy Mole]

Suppose a post-op transgender (male to female) gets saved.  "She" has hormone-induced fully-formed female features, including her facial structure, breasts, hips, etc.  She looks and feels like a woman, and believes changing back at this point is out of the question. 

She comes to you and asks, "What would be cross-dressing for me?  Dressing like a man, because I appear to be a woman?  Or dressing like a woman, because I was born male and am genetically male?"

What do you say?

I think this is a question worthy of Timmeh!

 

[lnf]

Hmm.  Might he stop the hormones and accept the fact that he made himself a eunuch?

 

[SaviorSelf]

Depends on when she started treatment. Sex hormones post-puberty mostly effect fat placement and muscle growth, not so much bone growth. So as long as she went through puberty as a male I don't see any reason why she couldn't successfully revert if she wanted to.

edit: Just noticed post-op.. Nope, may as well stay female tbh.

 

[Ransom]

I have no idea if it's reversible.  If you gained breasts by the hormones, would they disappear when you stopped taking them?  Would your hips and facial features go back to being manly?  (At least the surgery isn't reversible, is it?  I mean, once you have it removed...)

My rather limited understanding is that (obviously) anything removed by surgery or electrolysis is permanent, in which case he will not grow back genitalia or facial hair. However, hair that just stopped growing due to hormone treatment should resume again, fat should redistribute itself into a more masculine configuration, and breast tissue might reduce but probably won't go away - meaning that unless he's willing to live with gynecomastia, he would need surgery to flatten his chest.

Regardless, I was more interested in the question of what would be considered cross dressing (known by IFBxers as wimmens waring pants).  Sounds like you're leaning toward he/she/it must wear pants.

If you mean, do I believe that someone who is a male ought to appear and live as a male, the answer is an obvious yes.

 

[Holy Mole]

I'm wondering that if one uses Ranch and Italian on their salad are they "cross dressing"...? ???

 

[Izdaari]

I think for such an individual, the question of cross-dressing is irrelevant. Actually, I think it's mostly irrelevant for anybody, but particularly so in that case/

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I don't care if you cross-dress (or if women wear pants) but I do enjoy pointing out to women that pants are less feminine than skirts as attested by the fact that when men want to cross-dress they rarely wear a pair of jeans or a comfortable pair of slacks.

 

[Izdaari]

I don't care if you cross-dress (or if women wear pants) but I do enjoy pointing out to women that pants are less feminine than skirts as attested by the fact that when men want to cross-dress they rarely wear a pair of jeans or a comfortable pair of slacks.

Hmm. Is it cross-dressing for a woman to wear a kilt?

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

I don't care if you cross-dress (or if women wear pants) but I do enjoy pointing out to women that pants are less feminine than skirts as attested by the fact that when men want to cross-dress they rarely wear a pair of jeans or a comfortable pair of slacks.

Here's the problem (for those who are against women wearing pants).  If he/she continues to look like a woman and wears pants, then the IFBxers who don't know he/she is transgender will go, "tsk tsk tsk, another woman wearing pants".