Which Jesus?

[biscuit1953]

Mark Spence wrote an article that shows very clearly why sound doctrine is so important. 

?If a stranger approaches you and says he knows hour buddy ?John,? but all the facts are wrong concerning him, you could safely conclude that he is referring to a different John.  With that in mind, there are many religions that claim they know and believe in Jesus, but that does not mean they are referring to the same Jesus Christ of the Bible.  For example:

*Mormons believe Jesus was the spirit brother of Lucifer.  That is not the Jesus of the Bible.

*Jehovah Witnesses believe Jesus was Michael the Archangel.  That is not in the Bible!

*Muslims believe Jesus was just a prophet.  That is definitely not what the Bible teaches.

*Baha?i teaches Jesus was simply a messenger. 

Notice how none of these religions teach what the Bible says, that Jesus was God in human flesh.?

2Jn 1:9  Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

The apostle John makes it clear that those who don?t have a proper understanding of the person and work of Jesus Christ are not saved.  The Jesus Hopper and Smellin believe in is not the one who bore our sins on the cross and whom God put forth as a propitiation (appeasement) for sins (Romans 3:25).  Just like Hebrews 10 shows, for those who ?sin wilfully? by rejecting the only sacrifice that can take away sins, there remains no more sacrifice for sins (Heb 10:26).  We aren?t saved by following the example of Christ (which we should do) but by faith in the sacrifice He made for us.  Since we can?t even agree on what the scriptures are there can be no meaningful discussion (Titus 3:10,11).

Heb 9:28  So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Mark Spence wrote an article that shows very clearly why sound doctrine is so important. 

?If a stranger approaches you and says he knows hour buddy ?John,? but all the facts are wrong concerning him, you could safely conclude that he is referring to a different John.  With that in mind, there are many religions that claim they know and believe in Jesus, but that does not mean they are referring to the same Jesus Christ of the Bible.  For example:

*Mormons believe Jesus was the spirit brother of Lucifer.  That is not the Jesus of the Bible.

*Jehovah Witnesses believe Jesus was Michael the Archangel.  That is not in the Bible!

*Muslims believe Jesus was just a prophet.  That is definitely not what the Bible teaches.

*Baha?i teaches Jesus was simply a messenger. 

Notice how none of these religions teach what the Bible says, that Jesus was God in human flesh.?

2Jn 1:9  Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

The apostle John makes it clear that those who don?t have a proper understanding of the person and work of Jesus Christ are not saved.  The Jesus Hopper and Smellin believe in is not the one who bore our sins on the cross and whom God put forth as a propitiation (appeasement) for sins (Romans 3:25).  Just like Hebrews 10 shows, for those who ?sin wilfully? by rejecting the only sacrifice that can take away sins, there remains no more sacrifice for sins (Heb 10:26).  We aren?t saved by following the example of Christ (which we should do) but by faith in the sacrifice He made for us.  Since we can?t even agree on what the scriptures are there can be no meaningful discussion (Titus 3:10,11).

Heb 9:28  So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Thank you again for providing evidence your gospel is not that which originated with the red letters, but with other "theologians".

 

[Smellin Coffee]

2Jn 1:9  Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

So why are you using the gospel message from Paul and not Christ himself? Wouldn't that be encompassed within the pattern of abiding in the teaching of Christ? When it comes to eternity, should we rely on the source itself or should we rely on what other people, even biblical penmen are saying about the source?

This verse defies your gospel presentation and makes the point it "does not have God".

 

[Walt]

Thank you again for providing evidence your gospel is not that which originated with the red letters, but with other "theologians".

So, I don't get this reference to red letters; I understand that you generally don't accept the writings of Paul and others, but wasn't it a  man who decided what letters are red and which are not?  There seems to be disagreement over which letters should be red and which shouldn't, so how can you base what you believe on such a man-made thing as the red letters?

 

[Route_70]

wasn't it a  man who decided what letters are red and which are not?

Great point!

Not only that; it was a man who wrote those words down.  Jesus wrote nothing down, so far as anyone knows.