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christundivided
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I'm personally glad that my representative is finally standing up for what I believe.... whether it works or not. How do you feel?
ALAYMAN said:I think it's sad that self-serving political agendas and a lack of cooperation now mark our political system, and there will be a lot of real people who are hurt by furloughs through this idiotic chess game.
christundivided said:ALAYMAN said:I think it's sad that self-serving political agendas and a lack of cooperation now mark our political system, and there will be a lot of real people who are hurt by furloughs through this idiotic chess game.
I believe pretty much all those furloughed....will get back pay. I do believe Congress and the White House both should forfeit their earns during the shutdown.
ALAYMAN said:I think it's sad that self-serving political agendas and a lack of cooperation now mark our political system, and there will be a lot of real people who are hurt by furloughs through this idiotic chess game.
rsc2a said:ALAYMAN said:I think it's sad that self-serving political agendas and a lack of cooperation now mark our political system, and there will be a lot of real people who are hurt by furloughs through this idiotic chess game.
You realize that lack of cooperation has plagued the Union since before there was a union, right?
ALAYMAN said:rsc2a said:ALAYMAN said:I think it's sad that self-serving political agendas and a lack of cooperation now mark our political system, and there will be a lot of real people who are hurt by furloughs through this idiotic chess game.
You realize that lack of cooperation has plagued the Union since before there was a union, right?
You realize the way you phrase questions has a lot to do with the type of response you get in return, right?
JrChurch said:According to the following chart, while in the military from 1973-1997, our family endured 17 government shutdowns totaling 108 days. I feel so cheated. We did not have Facebook on which to whine about how unfair it was to not receive a pay check. Life stinketh.
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/09/82602-remember-15-government-shutdowns-1995-yeah-neither-anyone-else/
rsc2a said:Simple question: do you contend that the lack of cooperation in our federal government is a recent occurrence as your initial statement implies?
ALAYMAN said:rsc2a said:Simple question: do you contend that the lack of cooperation in our federal government is a recent occurrence as your initial statement implies?
No, you misread what I did not imply. I never meant to state explicitly or implicitly that this is a new phenomenon, just a business as usual grind things to a halt annoyance that has been repeated all too often lately.
ALAYMAN said:christundivided said:ALAYMAN said:I think it's sad that self-serving political agendas and a lack of cooperation now mark our political system, and there will be a lot of real people who are hurt by furloughs through this idiotic chess game.
I believe pretty much all those furloughed....will get back pay. I do believe Congress and the White House both should forfeit their earns during the shutdown.
But during the time before they receive back-pay there may be more people that cannot afford their house payment (depending on how long this lasts). It's not a fun or funny game for those who have to go without pay for potentially a lengthy time.
rsc2a said:So when you said "self-serving political agendas and a lack of cooperation now mark our political system", you didn't actually mean the "now", at least no more than at any other time in our nation's history?
Christundivided said:I sure it isn't. Yet its part of just about any job. Its been a long time since this has happened. I'd say the average person would love to have a permanent job in which something like hardly ever happens. I'm not trying to down play the impact. I think we should realize that being a government worker carries much more benefits than liabilities.
ALAYMAN said:rsc2a said:So when you said "self-serving political agendas and a lack of cooperation now mark our political system", you didn't actually mean the "now", at least no more than at any other time in our nation's history?
I don't know how old you are, but I'm 44, and I don't remember our governement constantly coming under the threat of fiscal cliffs, shutdowns, and deficits like we have now.
rsc2a said:So you did or you didn't mean that "self-serving political agendas and a lack of cooperation" are a recent development in our political landscape?