Why CCM is wrong (Cont.)

[Biblebeliever]

Why CCM (Contemporary Christian Music) is wrong:

CCM removes the distinction between the Holy and the Profane. It removes the notable distinction between that which is of God and that which is of the world. CCM exalts the performer whereas the Old blessed Hymns exalt the Lord Jesus Christ.

The world of CCM also diminishes the fear, respect, awe and holy reverence which belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ.


Jesus is not your "homeboy" or your "homey." Jesus Christ is the Lord who is to be reverenced and honoured. He is the KING of kings and LORD of lords. He is the Lord. The Lord of hosts. He is to be feared. And the Old Hymns of the Faith preserve and uphold that great honour and reverence which belongs unto the Lord.

Furthermore much of CCM music is void of Sound Biblical Doctrine. There is something very ecumenical about CCM.  And as mentioned in an earlier post on this subject, The spirit of CCM is of the world; which is why when you study the artists in the CCM movement, you'll notice they talk like the world, they dress like the world and they are friends with the world. And the fact that the world enjoys and loves CCM also is proof that the spirit behind CCM is not of the Lord.

In conclusion, here is a link to an article showing that in the CCM movement there also is a huge void and lacking of Biblical discernment where sin, darkness and wickedness is not reproved or rebuked:


dc Talk's Kevin would "love" to "hang" with anti-Christ Marilyn Manson!
http://www.av1611.org/crock/dctalk1.html

 

[T-Bone]

A crock of over generalized tripe...you are still an idiot!

 

[Billy]

A crock of over generalized tripe...you are still an idiot!

Bingo!!!!

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

Why you are wrong...

Sorry, too many items to list.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Why CCM (Contemporary Christian Music) is wrong:

CCM removes the distinction between the Holy and the Profane. It removes the notable distinction between that which is of God and that which is of the world. CCM exalts the performer whereas the Old blessed Hymns exalt the Lord Jesus Christ.

The supposedly "old hymns" exalted the performer. "John Newton" has long been lauded for his efforts. So has Fannie Crosby. Its not how people talk about you. Its ALL about how you handle it.

The world of CCM also diminishes the fear, respect, awe and holy reverence which belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ.


Jesus is not your "homeboy" or your "homey." Jesus Christ is the Lord who is to be reverenced and honoured. He is the KING of kings and LORD of lords. He is the Lord. The Lord of hosts. He is to be feared. And the Old Hymns of the Faith preserve and uphold that great honour and reverence which belongs unto the Lord.

Jesus... is a "friend" to his own. Maybe you need to read John 15 again.

Joh 15:15  Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

"Homeboy" is a generational term used to express a "close friendship".

I grow so tired of idiots like yourself..... You think.... "your way" is the only way. You draw lines of separation where none exist. You pretend generational differences in slang and music are contrary to God solely based on it being "different" than what you've always done. You know what they call this?

PRIDE!!!!

You're so "PROUD" of your way... you can't see you're adding to the demands of the Scriptures. You're negating the glorious truth of Jesus being a friend to all cultures and all generations.

Furthermore much of CCM music is void of Sound Biblical Doctrine. There is something very ecumenical about CCM.  And as mentioned in an earlier post on this subject, The spirit of CCM is of the world; which is why when you study the artists in the CCM movement, you'll notice they talk like the world, they dress like the world and they are friends with the world. And the fact that the world enjoys and loves CCM also is proof that the spirit behind CCM is not of the Lord.

I'm glad you mentioned this. Shall we look at the Scriptures?

1Jn 2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

You can sum up EVERYTHING that is sinful in this world with what John says in 1 John 2:16. What is it that God doesn't like about this "world"?  Its the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and the PRIDE that comes from LIVING this carnal life.

Its not about dressing like the "world". Bill Clinton wears exactly what you wear and we all know what he did. "Lust" isn't all about how someone dresses. Its about the nature of the heart. Your heart isn't ANY different than anyone else.

The Psalmist spoke about the "eye of vanity" The foolishness of our lustful desire toward the success or possession of others. Could it possibly be..... "you're jealous" at the success of others? That is really what's at the core of covetousness. Sometimes.... its more about someone else having......  "what we should have"..... than it is about what we want.

If CCM hadn't been successful at touching the heart of others.... then you wouldn't have one thing to say about it. You know why? Because you're cloaking your own covetousness with righteous indignation.

Pride.... The "crux" of most of our problems. I can tell you're "proud" of being "different". You like "standing out". You do. There is nothing wrong about "standing out"..... However, when a person tries to turn their own cultural and generation beliefs into the "commandments of God"..... then its really all about YOU. You want everyone to be like YOU. You might want to study pride a little more.

In conclusion, here is a link to an article showing that in the CCM movement there also is a huge void and lacking of Biblical discernment where sin, darkness and wickedness is not reproved or rebuked:

I knew a man several years ago that was hot and heavy into bashing CCM and others genres of music. He drew large crowds and tons of "amens" everywhere he went. That same man, couldn't see he wasn't any different than the people he was bashing. Eventually, he lost much of what he had "built" for God. People like you.... love to point fingers at others. It takes the focus off your own sin. Some of the biggest liars and cheats I've ever known..... loved to preach against CCM. It covered their own sin and gave them something to hide the fact they didn't really know much of anything about the Scriptures.

 

[bgwilkinson]

Why CCM (Contemporary Christian Music) is wrong:

CCM removes the distinction between the Holy and the Profane. It removes the notable distinction between that which is of God and that which is of the world. CCM exalts the performer whereas the Old blessed Hymns exalt the Lord Jesus Christ.

The supposedly "old hymns" exalted the performer. "John Newton" has long been lauded for his efforts. So has Fannie Crosby. Its not how people talk about you. Its ALL about how you handle it.

The world of CCM also diminishes the fear, respect, awe and holy reverence which belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ.


Jesus is not your "homeboy" or your "homey." Jesus Christ is the Lord who is to be reverenced and honoured. He is the KING of kings and LORD of lords. He is the Lord. The Lord of hosts. He is to be feared. And the Old Hymns of the Faith preserve and uphold that great honour and reverence which belongs unto the Lord.

Jesus... is a "friend" to his own. Maybe you need to read John 15 again.

Joh 15:15  Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

"Homeboy" is a generational term used to express a "close friendship".

I grow so tired of idiots like yourself..... You think.... "your way" is the only way. You draw lines of separation where none exist. You pretend generational differences in slang and music are contrary to God solely based on it being "different" than what you've always done. You know what they call this?

PRIDE!!!!

You're so "PROUD" of your way... you can't see you're adding to the demands of the Scriptures. You're negating the glorious truth of Jesus being a friend to all cultures and all generations.

Furthermore much of CCM music is void of Sound Biblical Doctrine. There is something very ecumenical about CCM.  And as mentioned in an earlier post on this subject, The spirit of CCM is of the world; which is why when you study the artists in the CCM movement, you'll notice they talk like the world, they dress like the world and they are friends with the world. And the fact that the world enjoys and loves CCM also is proof that the spirit behind CCM is not of the Lord.

I'm glad you mentioned this. Shall we look at the Scriptures?

1Jn 2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

You can sum up EVERYTHING that is sinful in this world with what John says in 1 John 2:16. What is it that God doesn't like about this "world"?  Its the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and the PRIDE that comes from LIVING this carnal life.

Its not about dressing like the "world". Bill Clinton wears exactly what you wear and we all know what he did. "Lust" isn't all about how someone dresses. Its about the nature of the heart. Your heart isn't ANY different than anyone else.

The Psalmist spoke about the "eye of vanity" The foolishness of our lustful desire toward the success or possession of others. Could it possibly be..... "you're jealous" at the success of others? That is really what's at the core of covetousness. Sometimes.... its more about someone else having......  "we should have"..... than it is about what we want.

If CCM hadn't been successful at touching the heart of others.... then you wouldn't have one thing to say about it. You know why? Because you're cloaking your own covetousness with righteous indignation.

Pride.... The "crux" of most of our problems. I can tell you're "proud" of being "different". You like "standing out". You do. There is nothing wrong about "standing out"..... However, when a person tries to turn their own cultural and generation beliefs in the "commandments of God"..... then its really all about YOU. You want everyone to be like YOU. You might want to study pride a little more.

In conclusion, here is a link to an article showing that in the CCM movement there also is a huge void and lacking of Biblical discernment where sin, darkness and wickedness is not reproved or rebuked:

I knew a man several years ago that was hot and heavy into bashing CCM and others genres of music. He drew large crowds and tons of "amens" everywhere he went. That same man, couldn't see he wasn't any different than the people he was bashing. Eventually, he lost much of what he had "built" for God. People like you.... love to point fingers at others. It takes the focus off your own sin. Some of the biggest liars and cheats I've ever known..... loved to preach against CCM. It covered their own sin and gave them something to hide the fact they didn't really know much of anything about the Scriptures.

Many many valid observations.
I believe you are really on to something here.

 

[FSSL]

I come to the garden alone... while the dew is still on the roses....

 

[Jet]

It would be interesting if we could listen to the religious music of ancient Israel or the early church. I bet it would sound neither like traditional hyms or CCM.

It appears IFBs are bent on defending a musical style and church culture that is very specific to the American Church of the 1950s. It's disconnected  from both the span of history and the cultural diversity within Christianity.

 

[Escapee]

A crock of over generalized tripe...you are still an idiot!

YUP!!!!!

 

[Escapee]

I have family members who are Ruckmanite fundamentalist.  They are so against the worldly music of CCM.  One of them sings for a well known Southern Gospel group.  They are constantly posting pics with lights flashing and moving. Singers moving around on the stage. People being all emotional. With some good songs and some that are theologically weaker than water. But they will argue til they are blue in the face that Southern Gospel is more spiritual music than any CCM! Makes my head hurt to even address the subject with such hypocrisy and lack of mental support!

 

[FSSL]

Yeah.... our pastor when I was a kid, preached against drums. The IFB church across town had Southern Gospel with drums... not a word was said..... then our pastor had classic rock on inside his car, along with our music director.

A bunch of nonsense.

 

[FSSL]

I have family members who are Ruckmanite fundamentalist. 

They are not against cussing and multiple divorced church leadership apparently.

 

[Biblebeliever]

A crock of over generalized tripe...you are still an idiot!

No, the information provided is the truth. It is factual.

Rock music is of the world. Rock music is all about rebellion. And if you don't see that, then you are either as blind as a bat when it comes to discernment. Or if you know better then you are in rebellion, and you need to repent and get right with God.

 

[Biblebeliever]

"Homeboy" is a generational term used to express a "close friendship".

And it is a term not appropriate when addressing the Lord God Almighty.

I grow so tired of idiots like yourself..... You think.... "your way" is the only way. You draw lines of separation where none exist.

No, you grow tired of Bible believing Christians who actually take a strong stand on issues, because you would rather compromise with the limp-wristed, lukewarm, laodicean apostates who don't take a strong stand for anything that is controversial. Such as the rock n roll music issue in the church, Bible Version issue, 501c3 Issue, etc.

You pretend generational differences in slang and music are contrary to God solely based on it being "different" than what you've always done. You know what they call this?

PRIDE!!!!

No it is not pride at all. When you or I refer to God, we are to refer to Him in Reverence. For He is Holy.

And the reason why you and many other professing Christians get angry and irate over a topic and post like this one, is because of the  apostasy that is so prevalent in these last days preceding the Return of Christ.

You're so "PROUD" of your way... you can't see you're adding to the demands of the Scriptures. You're negating the glorious truth of Jesus being a friend to all cultures and all generations.

Jesus is only a friend to those who are saved and who obey His commands.

And again, it ain't pride. I just love the Old Paths. Which is the Bible Way.

I'm glad you mentioned this. Shall we look at the Scriptures?

1Jn 2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

You can sum up EVERYTHING that is sinful in this world with what John says in 1 John 2:16. What is it that God doesn't like about this "world"?  Its the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and the PRIDE that comes from LIVING this carnal life.

And the lust of the flesh, lust of the eye, and the pride of life can all be seen in the rock and roll culture. Drugs, sex, and total rebellion against God Almighty and His holy word.

Its not about dressing like the "world". Bill Clinton wears exactly what you wear and we all know what he did. "Lust" isn't all about how someone dresses. Its about the nature of the heart. Your heart isn't ANY different than anyone else.

While it is true to a degree that lust isn't all about how one dresses, still though, the Bible commands us to be separate from the world, and its fashions. We are not to conform to the world, or its wicked system. Plus, the Holy Bible also teaches Modesty in dress.

The Psalmist spoke about the "eye of vanity" The foolishness of our lustful desire toward the success or possession of others. Could it possibly be..... "you're jealous" at the success of others? That is really what's at the core of covetousness. Sometimes.... its more about someone else having......  "what we should have"..... than it is about what we want.

I am definitely not jealous at the CCMers. They look and act like the world. As a matter of fact, the goal of the CCMers is to make the church worldly. And the world laughs at them for it.

Pride.... The "crux" of most of our problems. I can tell you're "proud" of being "different". You like "standing out". You do. There is nothing wrong about "standing out"..... However, when a person tries to turn their own cultural and generation beliefs into the "commandments of God"..... then its really all about YOU. You want everyone to be like YOU. You might want to study pride a little more.

I already told you, it ain't about pride. The Bible says that we are to be different. We are to stand out:

Hebrews 11:13 King James Version (KJV)

13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

1 Peter 2:11 King James Version (KJV)

11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=praise_yeshua]I grow so tired of idiots like yourself..... You think.... "your way" is the only way. [/quote]

*shock*

 

[Ransom]

Hey Bibleburner, does Avery know you stole his blue crayon?

 

[T-Bone]

A crock of over generalized tripe...you are still an idiot!

No, the information provided is the truth. It is factual.

Rock music is of the world. Rock music is all about rebellion. And if you don't see that, then you are either as blind as a bat when it comes to discernment.

Says the idiot with the great powers of discernment about the gender of the First Lady. Oh the irony of the Idiot!

 

[subllibrm]

Its not about dressing like the "world". Bill Clinton wears exactly what you wear and we all know what he did.

While it is true to a degree that lust isn't all about how one dresses, still though, the Bible commands us to be separate from the world, and its fashions. We are not to conform to the world, or its wicked system. Plus, the Holy Bible also teaches Modesty in dress.

And you completely ignored his point. There is no shortage of worldly, evil men operating in it's wicked system who wear a suit and tie. Why do you conform to them? Why do you refuse to separate from the world?

 

[praise_yeshua]

Its not about dressing like the "world". Bill Clinton wears exactly what you wear and we all know what he did.

While it is true to a degree that lust isn't all about how one dresses, still though, the Bible commands us to be separate from the world, and its fashions. We are not to conform to the world, or its wicked system. Plus, the Holy Bible also teaches Modesty in dress.

And you completely ignored his point. There is no shortage of worldly, evil men operating in it's wicked system who wear a suit and tie. Why do you conform to them? Why do you refuse to separate from the world?

Don't expect an answer.

 

[Biblebeliever]

A crock of over generalized tripe...you are still an idiot!

No, the information provided is the truth. It is factual.

Rock music is of the world. Rock music is all about rebellion. And if you don't see that, then you are either as blind as a bat when it comes to discernment.

Says the idiot with the great powers of discernment about the gender of the First Lady. Oh the irony of the Idiot!

There are still a lot of people who think that Michelle (the "first lady") is actually a man.

I suppose that video was rather convincing. But when I find out that there is an error of judgment on my part, I correct it.

Now let me ask you something you apostate.

Now if you know rock music is as wicked as the devil. Do you support it (whether religious or secular)?  And if you do, then why?