Why Donald Trump matters

[biscuit1953]

I don't care for Trump or McCain but no one is a bigger narcissist than Trump. Not sure it's possible.   And where is his consistent record of conservatism?  His "putting his money where his mouth is" is a big concern considering where many of his past campaign donations have gone! He is a siren song for many who are rightly angered that he will never satisfy.

I am a pretty informed guy and can never remember hearing of the charge against McCain you brought up and POW's. I did a quick google search and the first results I see are from Alex Jones, WND and dailykos. Not saying there isn't anything there but I wouldn't believe it from those sites. Now I would believe it if Ann Coulter said it.  She disdains McCain and I would have expected she would have brought it up if true but I don't remember her ever making  any such claim so I am respectfully doubtful at this point.

When I said that Trump puts his money where his mouth is I was referring specifically to when it comes to supporting the military.  I'm surprised you don't remember  McCain thumbing his nose at missing POW's when there was massive evidence that many unlike himself were still being held captive in Viet Nam and even Korea.  Here is one link.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

I remember a few years ago someone asked Trump why he gave money to Democrats and he explained that in New York and many of the places he did business were controlled by democrats and he simply maintained a business relationship with them.  I know there are issues I would strongly disagree with him on and voting for him is certainly not set in stone by a long shot.

The direction America is going has troubled many people and not just Christians.  People harshly criticize Rush Limbaugh on this site and yet he speaks for the unborn, has strongly opposed the homosexual agenda and generally upholds values most here hold dear.  He is not a pastor and does speak against the Democratic party that is so radical now that anyone who is opposed to killing a healthy baby half way out of the womb is sick and unchristian because they want to limit a woman's right to "choose."  It is the Democratic party that promotes the destruction of marriage between a man and a woman.  It is the Democratic party that has divided the nation by race, gender, class and every other way in order to stay in power.  Now the Republican establishment is no better.

I look at Ted Cruz who supported fast track authority to the most radical President in American history before he finally flip flopped under pressure.  I could go one by one and find things in all of the candidates that in my mind would disqualify them getting my vote.

One last thing.  Many Americans are truly frightened about the direction we are going so how do you know Donald Trump isn't genuinely concerned also?  Can you read his heart as to why he wants to be president?  By stepping into the political arena whole hog he is risking many of his business ventures such as doing business in New York and many other places.  One could say he is risking his very wealth by even running for President.  Vote your conscience.

 

[praise_yeshua]

There is a picture of Trump in my dictionary...right next to the word Narcissist. With Trump it's ALWAYS about Trump and how he and his are always the greatest. More telling in that same interview is his statement he has "never apologized to God" and not sure he needs to. This is someone who claims to believe in God and be a regular church-goer. Trump's pride is why Trump does what he does...and doesn't.

There have always been good people in the US who want to believe in the "populist voice for the people". ("Face in the Crowd" with a serious Andy Griffith role is a great movie example).  Donald Trump is not that guy. He has no ideological core, careening from past support of Pelosi, Clinton, and Bloomberg  to his current act of bluster.

I am no fan of McCain BUT he indeed was a hero for what and how he endured as a POW. I'm not sure how anyone can say Trump was "misquoted". Sure, he went on to say McCain was a hero but only in mocking him for being captured. No thanks.

I believe you can be a principled conservative who has a chance of being elected and not being a jerk.

He was misquoted by many of the media. He wasn't saying McCain wasn't a hero. He just said he preferred people that didn't get captured. While I strongly disagree, that is what he said.

Regardless of this. Trump was "spot on" when he criticized McCain for doing nothing while the VA killed veterans.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

There is a picture of Trump in my dictionary...right next to the word Narcissist. With Trump it's ALWAYS about Trump and how he and his are always the greatest. More telling in that same interview is his statement he has "never apologized to God" and not sure he needs to. This is someone who claims to believe in God and be a regular church-goer. Trump's pride is why Trump does what he does...and doesn't.

There have always been good people in the US who want to believe in the "populist voice for the people". ("Face in the Crowd" with a serious Andy Griffith role is a great movie example).  Donald Trump is not that guy. He has no ideological core, careening from past support of Pelosi, Clinton, and Bloomberg  to his current act of bluster.

I am no fan of McCain BUT he indeed was a hero for what and how he endured as a POW. I'm not sure how anyone can say Trump was "misquoted". Sure, he went on to say McCain was a hero but only in mocking him for being captured. No thanks.

I believe you can be a principled conservative who has a chance of being elected and not being a jerk.

Would you consider McCain and Romney as principled conservatives?

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

I don't care for Trump or McCain but no one is a bigger narcissist than Trump. Not sure it's possible.   And where is his consistent record of conservatism?  His "putting his money where his mouth is" is a big concern considering where many of his past campaign donations have gone! He is a siren song for many who are rightly angered that he will never satisfy.

I am a pretty informed guy and can never remember hearing of the charge against McCain you brought up and POW's. I did a quick google search and the first results I see are from Alex Jones, WND and dailykos. Not saying there isn't anything there but I wouldn't believe it from those sites. Now I would believe it if Ann Coulter said it.  She disdains McCain and I would have expected she would have brought it up if true but I don't remember her ever making  any such claim so I am respectfully doubtful at this point.

When I said that Trump puts his money where his mouth is I was referring specifically to when it comes to supporting the military.  I'm surprised you don't remember  McCain thumbing his nose at missing POW's when there was massive evidence that many unlike himself were still being held captive in Viet Nam and even Korea.  Here is one link.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

I remember a few years ago someone asked Trump why he gave money to Democrats and he explained that in New York and many of the places he did business were controlled by democrats and he simply maintained a business relationship with them.  I know there are issues I would strongly disagree with him on and voting for him is certainly not set in stone by a long shot.

The direction America is going has troubled many people and not just Christians.  People harshly criticize Rush Limbaugh on this site and yet he speaks for the unborn, has strongly opposed the homosexual agenda and generally upholds values most here hold dear.  He is not a pastor and does speak against the Democratic party that is so radical now that anyone who is opposed to killing a healthy baby half way out of the womb is sick and unchristian because they want to limit a woman's right to "choose."  It is the Democratic party that promotes the destruction of marriage between a man and a woman.  It is the Democratic party that has divided the nation by race, gender, class and every other way in order to stay in power.  Now the Republican establishment is no better.

I look at Ted Cruz who supported fast track authority to the most radical President in American history before he finally flip flopped under pressure.  I could go one by one and find things in all of the candidates that in my mind would disqualify them getting my vote.

One last thing.  Many Americans are truly frightened about the direction we are going so how do you know Donald Trump isn't genuinely concerned also?  Can you read his heart as to why he wants to be president?  By stepping into the political arena whole hog he is risking many of his business ventures such as doing business in New York and many other places.  One could say he is risking his very wealth by even running for President.  Vote your conscience.

Exactly!
While I will not be supporting Trump with my vote, I hope he moves the debate away from the PC say what they want to hear liberal influenced idiocy to straight talk, common sense truth!

 

[Smellin Coffee]

The one thing I like about Trump in his candidacy: it sure seems he is the only Republican candidate that isn't claiming that God TOLD him to run for office.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

The one thing I like about Trump in his candidacy: it sure seems he is the only Republican candidate that isn't claiming that God TOLD him to run for office.

You have some source for that claim?

 

[Smellin Coffee]

The one thing I like about Trump in his candidacy: it sure seems he is the only Republican candidate that isn't claiming that God TOLD him to run for office.

You have some source for that claim?

Does the word seem mean fact?

:

Anyways,

Scott Walker:

    My relationship with God drives every major decision in my life. Each day I pray and then take time to read from the Bible and from a devotional named Jesus Calling. As you can imagine, the months leading up to my announcement that I would run for President of the United States were filled with a lot of prayer and soul searching. Here’s why: I needed to be certain that running was God’s calling — not just man’s calling. I am certain: This is God’s plan for me and I am humbled to be a candidate for President of the United States.

John Kasich:

My family is a consideration, and number two, the most important thing is, what does the Lord want me to do with my life? You know, he puts us on Earth, all of us on Earth, to achieve certain purposes, and I’m trying to determine if this is what the Lord wants, and I’m not going to figure that out laying in bed hoping lightning strikes, so I’m out there one foot in front of another. We’ll see what happens.

Ben Carson:

“I believe God will make it clear to me if that’s something I’m supposed to do.”

Mike Huckabee:

“You know, the only thing worse than not being elected president would be to be elected president without God’s blessing. I can’t think of a worse place in the world to be than in the Oval Office without God’s hand upon you. I’d rather not get near the place. But if that’s a purpose, so be it. And that’s my prayer.”

 

[LongGone]

I don't care for Trump or McCain but no one is a bigger narcissist than Trump. Not sure it's possible.   And where is his consistent record of conservatism?  His "putting his money where his mouth is" is a big concern considering where many of his past campaign donations have gone! He is a siren song for many who are rightly angered that he will never satisfy.

I am a pretty informed guy and can never remember hearing of the charge against McCain you brought up and POW's. I did a quick google search and the first results I see are from Alex Jones, WND and dailykos. Not saying there isn't anything there but I wouldn't believe it from those sites. Now I would believe it if Ann Coulter said it.  She disdains McCain and I would have expected she would have brought it up if true but I don't remember her ever making  any such claim so I am respectfully doubtful at this point.

When I said that Trump puts his money where his mouth is I was referring specifically to when it comes to supporting the military.  I'm surprised you don't remember  McCain thumbing his nose at missing POW's when there was massive evidence that many unlike himself were still being held captive in Viet Nam and even Korea.  Here is one link.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

I remember a few years ago someone asked Trump why he gave money to Democrats and he explained that in New York and many of the places he did business were controlled by democrats and he simply maintained a business relationship with them.  I know there are issues I would strongly disagree with him on and voting for him is certainly not set in stone by a long shot.

The direction America is going has troubled many people and not just Christians.  People harshly criticize Rush Limbaugh on this site and yet he speaks for the unborn, has strongly opposed the homosexual agenda and generally upholds values most here hold dear.  He is not a pastor and does speak against the Democratic party that is so radical now that anyone who is opposed to killing a healthy baby half way out of the womb is sick and unchristian because they want to limit a woman's right to "choose."  It is the Democratic party that promotes the destruction of marriage between a man and a woman.  It is the Democratic party that has divided the nation by race, gender, class and every other way in order to stay in power.  Now the Republican establishment is no better.

I look at Ted Cruz who supported fast track authority to the most radical President in American history before he finally flip flopped under pressure.  I could go one by one and find things in all of the candidates that in my mind would disqualify them getting my vote.

One last thing.  Many Americans are truly frightened about the direction we are going so how do you know Donald Trump isn't genuinely concerned also?  Can you read his heart as to why he wants to be president?  By stepping into the political arena whole hog he is risking many of his business ventures such as doing business in New York and many other places.  One could say he is risking his very wealth by even running for President.  Vote your conscience.

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-trump-shortchanges-mccains-record-veterans-071217042--election.html

Fact check does not agree with you when it come to McCain supporting veterans.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I don't care for Trump or McCain but no one is a bigger narcissist than Trump. Not sure it's possible.   And where is his consistent record of conservatism?  His "putting his money where his mouth is" is a big concern considering where many of his past campaign donations have gone! He is a siren song for many who are rightly angered that he will never satisfy.

I am a pretty informed guy and can never remember hearing of the charge against McCain you brought up and POW's. I did a quick google search and the first results I see are from Alex Jones, WND and dailykos. Not saying there isn't anything there but I wouldn't believe it from those sites. Now I would believe it if Ann Coulter said it.  She disdains McCain and I would have expected she would have brought it up if true but I don't remember her ever making  any such claim so I am respectfully doubtful at this point.

When I said that Trump puts his money where his mouth is I was referring specifically to when it comes to supporting the military.  I'm surprised you don't remember  McCain thumbing his nose at missing POW's when there was massive evidence that many unlike himself were still being held captive in Viet Nam and even Korea.  Here is one link.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

I remember a few years ago someone asked Trump why he gave money to Democrats and he explained that in New York and many of the places he did business were controlled by democrats and he simply maintained a business relationship with them.  I know there are issues I would strongly disagree with him on and voting for him is certainly not set in stone by a long shot.

The direction America is going has troubled many people and not just Christians.  People harshly criticize Rush Limbaugh on this site and yet he speaks for the unborn, has strongly opposed the homosexual agenda and generally upholds values most here hold dear.  He is not a pastor and does speak against the Democratic party that is so radical now that anyone who is opposed to killing a healthy baby half way out of the womb is sick and unchristian because they want to limit a woman's right to "choose."  It is the Democratic party that promotes the destruction of marriage between a man and a woman.  It is the Democratic party that has divided the nation by race, gender, class and every other way in order to stay in power.  Now the Republican establishment is no better.

I look at Ted Cruz who supported fast track authority to the most radical President in American history before he finally flip flopped under pressure.  I could go one by one and find things in all of the candidates that in my mind would disqualify them getting my vote.

One last thing.  Many Americans are truly frightened about the direction we are going so how do you know Donald Trump isn't genuinely concerned also?  Can you read his heart as to why he wants to be president?  By stepping into the political arena whole hog he is risking many of his business ventures such as doing business in New York and many other places.  One could say he is risking his very wealth by even running for President.  Vote your conscience.

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-trump-shortchanges-mccains-record-veterans-071217042--election.html

Fact check does not agree with you when it come to McCain supporting veterans.

Where was McCain when Veterans were dying because of long wait times? What did McCain do then? Waiting till it became an issue and THEN..... trying to do something about it doesn't bring back the people that died. Its an insult to say that McCain wasn't involved in let things be the way they where until it became a national story. Senator Byrd did the same thing. I voted for both but I'm not changing history to support their failures.

 

[LongGone]

I don't care for Trump or McCain but no one is a bigger narcissist than Trump. Not sure it's possible.   And where is his consistent record of conservatism?  His "putting his money where his mouth is" is a big concern considering where many of his past campaign donations have gone! He is a siren song for many who are rightly angered that he will never satisfy.

I am a pretty informed guy and can never remember hearing of the charge against McCain you brought up and POW's. I did a quick google search and the first results I see are from Alex Jones, WND and dailykos. Not saying there isn't anything there but I wouldn't believe it from those sites. Now I would believe it if Ann Coulter said it.  She disdains McCain and I would have expected she would have brought it up if true but I don't remember her ever making  any such claim so I am respectfully doubtful at this point.

When I said that Trump puts his money where his mouth is I was referring specifically to when it comes to supporting the military.  I'm surprised you don't remember  McCain thumbing his nose at missing POW's when there was massive evidence that many unlike himself were still being held captive in Viet Nam and even Korea.  Here is one link.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

I remember a few years ago someone asked Trump why he gave money to Democrats and he explained that in New York and many of the places he did business were controlled by democrats and he simply maintained a business relationship with them.  I know there are issues I would strongly disagree with him on and voting for him is certainly not set in stone by a long shot.

The direction America is going has troubled many people and not just Christians.  People harshly criticize Rush Limbaugh on this site and yet he speaks for the unborn, has strongly opposed the homosexual agenda and generally upholds values most here hold dear.  He is not a pastor and does speak against the Democratic party that is so radical now that anyone who is opposed to killing a healthy baby half way out of the womb is sick and unchristian because they want to limit a woman's right to "choose."  It is the Democratic party that promotes the destruction of marriage between a man and a woman.  It is the Democratic party that has divided the nation by race, gender, class and every other way in order to stay in power.  Now the Republican establishment is no better.

I look at Ted Cruz who supported fast track authority to the most radical President in American history before he finally flip flopped under pressure.  I could go one by one and find things in all of the candidates that in my mind would disqualify them getting my vote.

One last thing.  Many Americans are truly frightened about the direction we are going so how do you know Donald Trump isn't genuinely concerned also?  Can you read his heart as to why he wants to be president?  By stepping into the political arena whole hog he is risking many of his business ventures such as doing business in New York and many other places.  One could say he is risking his very wealth by even running for President.  Vote your conscience.

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-trump-shortchanges-mccains-record-veterans-071217042--election.html

Fact check does not agree with you when it come to McCain supporting veterans.

Where was McCain when Veterans were dying because of long wait times? What did McCain do then? Waiting till it became an issue and THEN..... trying to do something about it doesn't bring back the people that died. Its an insult to say that McCain wasn't involved in let things be the way they where until it became a national story. Senator Byrd did the same thing. I voted for both but I'm not changing history to support their failures.

The issue is whether what Trump was saying is true. The way he presented the issue was not. No one is trying t change history but the reality is that Trump is taking this and twisting it so he can get political gain.

 

[LongGone]

There is a picture of Trump in my dictionary...right next to the word Narcissist. With Trump it's ALWAYS about Trump and how he and his are always the greatest. More telling in that same interview is his statement he has "never apologized to God" and not sure he needs to. This is someone who claims to believe in God and be a regular church-goer. Trump's pride is why Trump does what he does...and doesn't.

There have always been good people in the US who want to believe in the "populist voice for the people". ("Face in the Crowd" with a serious Andy Griffith role is a great movie example).  Donald Trump is not that guy. He has no ideological core, careening from past support of Pelosi, Clinton, and Bloomberg  to his current act of bluster.

I am no fan of McCain BUT he indeed was a hero for what and how he endured as a POW. I'm not sure how anyone can say Trump was "misquoted". Sure, he went on to say McCain was a hero but only in mocking him for being captured. No thanks.

I believe you can be a principled conservative who has a chance of being elected and not being a jerk.

He was misquoted by many of the media. He wasn't saying McCain wasn't a hero. He just said he preferred people that didn't get captured. While I strongly disagree, that is what he said.

Regardless of this. Trump was "spot on" when he criticized McCain for doing nothing while the VA killed veterans.

Trump was not misquoted. You can claim out of context if you like but honestly the context makes it should worse IMHO.  Trump said McCain wasn't a hero that Trump liked people who were not captured. That is crass from somebody who was not there.

 

[praise_yeshua]

There is a picture of Trump in my dictionary...right next to the word Narcissist. With Trump it's ALWAYS about Trump and how he and his are always the greatest. More telling in that same interview is his statement he has "never apologized to God" and not sure he needs to. This is someone who claims to believe in God and be a regular church-goer. Trump's pride is why Trump does what he does...and doesn't.

There have always been good people in the US who want to believe in the "populist voice for the people". ("Face in the Crowd" with a serious Andy Griffith role is a great movie example).  Donald Trump is not that guy. He has no ideological core, careening from past support of Pelosi, Clinton, and Bloomberg  to his current act of bluster.

I am no fan of McCain BUT he indeed was a hero for what and how he endured as a POW. I'm not sure how anyone can say Trump was "misquoted". Sure, he went on to say McCain was a hero but only in mocking him for being captured. No thanks.

I believe you can be a principled conservative who has a chance of being elected and not being a jerk.

He was misquoted by many of the media. He wasn't saying McCain wasn't a hero. He just said he preferred people that didn't get captured. While I strongly disagree, that is what he said.

Regardless of this. Trump was "spot on" when he criticized McCain for doing nothing while the VA killed veterans.

Trump was not misquoted. You can claim out of context if you like but honestly the context makes it should worse IMHO.  Trump said McCain wasn't a hero that Trump liked people who were not captured. That is crass from somebody who was not there.

Were you there? You're being pretty "crass" for someone who was not there!!!

You're being ridiculous. Trump said he was a hero. MCCain wasn't more of hero than the ones who died or refused to be taken captive.

 

[LongGone]

There is a picture of Trump in my dictionary...right next to the word Narcissist. With Trump it's ALWAYS about Trump and how he and his are always the greatest. More telling in that same interview is his statement he has "never apologized to God" and not sure he needs to. This is someone who claims to believe in God and be a regular church-goer. Trump's pride is why Trump does what he does...and doesn't.

There have always been good people in the US who want to believe in the "populist voice for the people". ("Face in the Crowd" with a serious Andy Griffith role is a great movie example).  Donald Trump is not that guy. He has no ideological core, careening from past support of Pelosi, Clinton, and Bloomberg  to his current act of bluster.

I am no fan of McCain BUT he indeed was a hero for what and how he endured as a POW. I'm not sure how anyone can say Trump was "misquoted". Sure, he went on to say McCain was a hero but only in mocking him for being captured. No thanks.

I believe you can be a principled conservative who has a chance of being elected and not being a jerk.

He was misquoted by many of the media. He wasn't saying McCain wasn't a hero. He just said he preferred people that didn't get captured. While I strongly disagree, that is what he said.

Regardless of this. Trump was "spot on" when he criticized McCain for doing nothing while the VA killed veterans.

Trump was not misquoted. You can claim out of context if you like but honestly the context makes it should worse IMHO.  Trump said McCain wasn't a hero that Trump liked people who were not captured. That is crass from somebody who was not there.

Were you there? You're being pretty "crass" for someone who was not there!!!

You're being ridiculous. Trump said he was a hero. MCCain wasn't more of hero than the ones who died or refused to be taken captive.

He said he was a hero after he said he wasn't a hero. What is the purpose of your last sentence?...who is debating that those who died or refused to be taken weren't heroes. Trump was crass because he attacked McCain on this issue...I am not attacking McCain on this issue.

 

[Just John]

I don't care for Trump or McCain but no one is a bigger narcissist than Trump. Not sure it's possible.   And where is his consistent record of conservatism?  His "putting his money where his mouth is" is a big concern considering where many of his past campaign donations have gone! He is a siren song for many who are rightly angered that he will never satisfy.

I am a pretty informed guy and can never remember hearing of the charge against McCain you brought up and POW's. I did a quick google search and the first results I see are from Alex Jones, WND and dailykos. Not saying there isn't anything there but I wouldn't believe it from those sites. Now I would believe it if Ann Coulter said it.  She disdains McCain and I would have expected she would have brought it up if true but I don't remember her ever making  any such claim so I am respectfully doubtful at this point.

When I said that Trump puts his money where his mouth is I was referring specifically to when it comes to supporting the military.  I'm surprised you don't remember  McCain thumbing his nose at missing POW's when there was massive evidence that many unlike himself were still being held captive in Viet Nam and even Korea.  Here is one link.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

I remember a few years ago someone asked Trump why he gave money to Democrats and he explained that in New York and many of the places he did business were controlled by democrats and he simply maintained a business relationship with them.  I know there are issues I would strongly disagree with him on and voting for him is certainly not set in stone by a long shot.

This is the tough guy who is going "stand up" and "tell it like it is"?  Here is a partial list of past donations to Democrats:

Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Rham Emmanuel ($50K), HARRY REID, CHARLIE RANGELL, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Democratic Senate Campaign of New York ($125k).

C'mon guys....you claim you want someone with principles.

The direction America is going has troubled many people and not just Christians.  People harshly criticize Rush Limbaugh on this site and yet he speaks for the unborn, has strongly opposed the homosexual agenda and generally upholds values most here hold dear.  He is not a pastor and does speak against the Democratic party that is so radical now that anyone who is opposed to killing a healthy baby half way out of the womb is sick and unchristian because they want to limit a woman's right to "choose."  It is the Democratic party that promotes the destruction of marriage between a man and a woman.  It is the Democratic party that has divided the nation by race, gender, class and every other way in order to stay in power.  Now the Republican establishment is no better.

Hey, I'm fine with Rush. He's been the same thoughtful, insightful guy for the last 30 years I have listened to him. He's a bit of a blowhard but it's his schtick and he embraces it. Trump revels in it.  And seriously, it's a bit hyperbolic to say the GOP Establishment (open to interpretation) "is no better".

I look at Ted Cruz who supported fast track authority to the most radical President in American history before he finally flip flopped under pressure.  I could go one by one and find things in all of the candidates that in my mind would disqualify them getting my vote.

When Jesus runs you will get the perfect candidate.    Until then there is no perfect candidate. A lot of conservatives stayed home and didn't vote for Romney. He wasn't the perfect candidate. Whether they want to admit it or not there is no reason to believe he would have made the "deal" (surrender) Obama and Kerry just made with Iran. If we think it's so bad and could lead to nuclear holocaust for Israel or God forbid our children, that' s a serious issue. I don't believe he would have made use of Executive Privilege so liberally. I think he would have nominated better judicial candidates. He would not have tried to divide the country like President Obama truly has. He realized that Russia was a serious threat...something a high ranking general agreed to just this past week...while President Obama snickered and made fun of Romney for his "retrograde" concerns. These are just a quick couple of things this establishment guy would have been better than what we have.


One last thing.  Many Americans are truly frightened about the direction we are going so how do you know Donald Trump isn't genuinely concerned also?  Can you read his heart as to why he wants to be president?  By stepping into the political arena whole hog he is risking many of his business ventures such as doing business in New York and many other places.  One could say he is risking his very wealth by even running for President.  Vote your conscience. 

Hey, I can make observations based on Trump's actions and words just like other politicians are judged.

One could also say he has so much money he isn't risking much of anything. And his business is real estate. Other than some hotels that make up part of his portfolio it's not like he has a chain of restaurants that someone can easily boycott and do immediate damage. His properties are typically leased and he can sell them if he had to. Or go bankrupt...again.

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[Just John]

There is a picture of Trump in my dictionary...right next to the word Narcissist. With Trump it's ALWAYS about Trump and how he and his are always the greatest. More telling in that same interview is his statement he has "never apologized to God" and not sure he needs to. This is someone who claims to believe in God and be a regular church-goer. Trump's pride is why Trump does what he does...and doesn't.

There have always been good people in the US who want to believe in the "populist voice for the people". ("Face in the Crowd" with a serious Andy Griffith role is a great movie example).  Donald Trump is not that guy. He has no ideological core, careening from past support of Pelosi, Clinton, and Bloomberg  to his current act of bluster.

I am no fan of McCain BUT he indeed was a hero for what and how he endured as a POW. I'm not sure how anyone can say Trump was "misquoted". Sure, he went on to say McCain was a hero but only in mocking him for being captured. No thanks.

I believe you can be a principled conservative who has a chance of being elected and not being a jerk.

He was misquoted by many of the media. He wasn't saying McCain wasn't a hero. He just said he preferred people that didn't get captured. While I strongly disagree, that is what he said.

Regardless of this. Trump was "spot on" when he criticized McCain for doing nothing while the VA killed veterans.

He clearly said he wasn't a hero and then mockingly and sarcastically said he was "because he got captured". LOL.  I think they call that a "back-handed compliment".

 

[Just John]

There is a picture of Trump in my dictionary...right next to the word Narcissist. With Trump it's ALWAYS about Trump and how he and his are always the greatest. More telling in that same interview is his statement he has "never apologized to God" and not sure he needs to. This is someone who claims to believe in God and be a regular church-goer. Trump's pride is why Trump does what he does...and doesn't.

There have always been good people in the US who want to believe in the "populist voice for the people". ("Face in the Crowd" with a serious Andy Griffith role is a great movie example).  Donald Trump is not that guy. He has no ideological core, careening from past support of Pelosi, Clinton, and Bloomberg  to his current act of bluster.

I am no fan of McCain BUT he indeed was a hero for what and how he endured as a POW. I'm not sure how anyone can say Trump was "misquoted". Sure, he went on to say McCain was a hero but only in mocking him for being captured. No thanks.

I believe you can be a principled conservative who has a chance of being elected and not being a jerk.

Would you consider McCain and Romney as principled conservatives?

They are conservative on some areas and not on others.  Just about like every other politician who claim to  be conservative, they are a mix.  Romney nor McCain are doctrinaire conservatives.  I feel like turning the channel when I see McCain or Lyndsey Graham on TV.  But I voted for him in 2008.  No regrets considering the options.

 

[Just John]

I don't care for Trump or McCain but no one is a bigger narcissist than Trump. Not sure it's possible.   And where is his consistent record of conservatism?  His "putting his money where his mouth is" is a big concern considering where many of his past campaign donations have gone! He is a siren song for many who are rightly angered that he will never satisfy.

I am a pretty informed guy and can never remember hearing of the charge against McCain you brought up and POW's. I did a quick google search and the first results I see are from Alex Jones, WND and dailykos. Not saying there isn't anything there but I wouldn't believe it from those sites. Now I would believe it if Ann Coulter said it.  She disdains McCain and I would have expected she would have brought it up if true but I don't remember her ever making  any such claim so I am respectfully doubtful at this point.

When I said that Trump puts his money where his mouth is I was referring specifically to when it comes to supporting the military.  I'm surprised you don't remember  McCain thumbing his nose at missing POW's when there was massive evidence that many unlike himself were still being held captive in Viet Nam and even Korea.  Here is one link.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

I wanted to take this on separately.  The reason I must not have heard about it is because as the author himself stated,  the "media is covering it up". Now the media, who liked McCain and his "straight talk express" during the primaries, turned on him big time during the general election.  There was much discussion about it. Remember the NY Times going after him about an affair that had no basis in fact and other attacks?

So why did this story not get much traction?  It was not first printed in The American Conservative in 2010  as the link here points to.  Instead, it was first printed in The Nation, a decidedly left of left magazine in 2008 as McCain was running for president. It was written by Sydney Shanburg who was an editor at the NY Times and covered the Vietnam War for the NYT. In 1975 he wrote that Cambodia "couldn't be anything but better off with the US leaving".  In just months he would see the folly of his comments as he saw the Khmer Rouge Communists turn Cambodia into "The Killing Fields", the title of the movie based oh his book. They killed 2 million Cambodians.

Schanburg later quit the NY Times and went to work for Penthouse, then Village Voice and The Nation. He was a liberal by any stretch of the imagination. This is relevant because the story did not catch on in the main stream media. So either it was a mass conspiracy that they didn't want to go after McCain or there wasn't much truth to the story.

I found this quote today in regards to Trump by Ann Mills-Griffiths, president of the National League of POW/MIA families, a nonprofit group that supports families of American troops held as prisoners of war and those missing in action:

“Sen. McCain was a prisoner of war who came home with honor but also continued to serve the nation and certainly the cause of America’s veterans returned and unreturned,” Mills-Griffiths said in an interview. “We all need to be grateful for those who did serve with honor.”

http://www.thenation.com/article/powmias-amp-john-mccain/

If you go to the original article on The Nation it will be preceded by a few comments back and forth from competing notables on the subject including Schanberg. Note the following comment from another lib:

"It was extremely disturbing to see The Nation provide space to Sydney Schanberg alleging that John McCain was part of a conspiracy to suppress information about POWs left behind in Vietnam. That would mean that John Kerry and Bill Clinton were also part of the conspiracy, not to mention the Pentagon and the State Department.

Having made more than fifty trips to Vietnam, beginning in 1975, I think the only reality of this story is as evidence of how hard it is for the United States to lose a war. I feel no less a desire than The Nation to ensure that McCain is not our next president, but such an article is Swiftboat revisionism with the endorsement of the country’s leading progressive publication.

JOHN McAULIFF
Executive director
Fund for Reconciliation and Development

I just don't find enough credibility on the story. My opinion.

 

[praise_yeshua]

There is a picture of Trump in my dictionary...right next to the word Narcissist. With Trump it's ALWAYS about Trump and how he and his are always the greatest. More telling in that same interview is his statement he has "never apologized to God" and not sure he needs to. This is someone who claims to believe in God and be a regular church-goer. Trump's pride is why Trump does what he does...and doesn't.

There have always been good people in the US who want to believe in the "populist voice for the people". ("Face in the Crowd" with a serious Andy Griffith role is a great movie example).  Donald Trump is not that guy. He has no ideological core, careening from past support of Pelosi, Clinton, and Bloomberg  to his current act of bluster.

I am no fan of McCain BUT he indeed was a hero for what and how he endured as a POW. I'm not sure how anyone can say Trump was "misquoted". Sure, he went on to say McCain was a hero but only in mocking him for being captured. No thanks.

I believe you can be a principled conservative who has a chance of being elected and not being a jerk.

He was misquoted by many of the media. He wasn't saying McCain wasn't a hero. He just said he preferred people that didn't get captured. While I strongly disagree, that is what he said.

Regardless of this. Trump was "spot on" when he criticized McCain for doing nothing while the VA killed veterans.

Trump was not misquoted. You can claim out of context if you like but honestly the context makes it should worse IMHO.  Trump said McCain wasn't a hero that Trump liked people who were not captured. That is crass from somebody who was not there.

Were you there? You're being pretty "crass" for someone who was not there!!!

You're being ridiculous. Trump said he was a hero. MCCain wasn't more of hero than the ones who died or refused to be taken captive.

He said he was a hero after he said he wasn't a hero. What is the purpose of your last sentence?...who is debating that those who died or refused to be taken weren't heroes. Trump was crass because he attacked McCain on this issue...I am not attacking McCain on this issue.

You said he was "Crass" because he wasn't there. That is what you said. Now you're twisting you're own words.

McCain wasn't a hero in the sense of being compared to those who gave their lives for the cause. Overall, he is a war hero to some degree. This is what I took from Trumps comments. Trump was being overly combative. That who Trump is.

 

[praise_yeshua]

There is a picture of Trump in my dictionary...right next to the word Narcissist. With Trump it's ALWAYS about Trump and how he and his are always the greatest. More telling in that same interview is his statement he has "never apologized to God" and not sure he needs to. This is someone who claims to believe in God and be a regular church-goer. Trump's pride is why Trump does what he does...and doesn't.

There have always been good people in the US who want to believe in the "populist voice for the people". ("Face in the Crowd" with a serious Andy Griffith role is a great movie example).  Donald Trump is not that guy. He has no ideological core, careening from past support of Pelosi, Clinton, and Bloomberg  to his current act of bluster.

I am no fan of McCain BUT he indeed was a hero for what and how he endured as a POW. I'm not sure how anyone can say Trump was "misquoted". Sure, he went on to say McCain was a hero but only in mocking him for being captured. No thanks.

I believe you can be a principled conservative who has a chance of being elected and not being a jerk.

He was misquoted by many of the media. He wasn't saying McCain wasn't a hero. He just said he preferred people that didn't get captured. While I strongly disagree, that is what he said.

Regardless of this. Trump was "spot on" when he criticized McCain for doing nothing while the VA killed veterans.

He clearly said he wasn't a hero and then mockingly and sarcastically said he was "because he got captured". LOL.  I think they call that a "back-handed compliment".

That's not how I took it. I just explained how I took it to LongGone.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I don't care for Trump or McCain but no one is a bigger narcissist than Trump. Not sure it's possible.   And where is his consistent record of conservatism?  His "putting his money where his mouth is" is a big concern considering where many of his past campaign donations have gone! He is a siren song for many who are rightly angered that he will never satisfy.

I am a pretty informed guy and can never remember hearing of the charge against McCain you brought up and POW's. I did a quick google search and the first results I see are from Alex Jones, WND and dailykos. Not saying there isn't anything there but I wouldn't believe it from those sites. Now I would believe it if Ann Coulter said it.  She disdains McCain and I would have expected she would have brought it up if true but I don't remember her ever making  any such claim so I am respectfully doubtful at this point.

When I said that Trump puts his money where his mouth is I was referring specifically to when it comes to supporting the military.  I'm surprised you don't remember  McCain thumbing his nose at missing POW's when there was massive evidence that many unlike himself were still being held captive in Viet Nam and even Korea.  Here is one link.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

I wanted to take this on separately.  The reason I must not have heard about it is because as the author himself stated,  the "media is covering it up". Now the media, who liked McCain and his "straight talk express" during the primaries, turned on him big time during the general election.  There was much discussion about it. Remember the NY Times going after him about an affair that had no basis in fact and other attacks?

So why did this story not get much traction?  It was not first printed in The American Conservative in 2010  as the link here points to.  Instead, it was first printed in The Nation, a decidedly left of left magazine in 2008 as McCain was running for president. It was written by Sydney Shanburg who was an editor at the NY Times and covered the Vietnam War for the NYT. In 1975 he wrote that Cambodia "couldn't be anything but better off with the US leaving".  In just months he would see the folly of his comments as he saw the Khmer Rouge Communists turn Cambodia into "The Killing Fields", the title of the movie based oh his book. They killed 2 million Cambodians.

Schanburg later quit the NY Times and went to work for Penthouse, then Village Voice and The Nation. He was a liberal by any stretch of the imagination. This is relevant because the story did not catch on in the main stream media. So either it was a mass conspiracy that they didn't want to go after McCain or there wasn't much truth to the story.

I found this quote today in regards to Trump by Ann Mills-Griffiths, president of the National League of POW/MIA families, a nonprofit group that supports families of American troops held as prisoners of war and those missing in action:

“Sen. McCain was a prisoner of war who came home with honor but also continued to serve the nation and certainly the cause of America’s veterans returned and unreturned,” Mills-Griffiths said in an interview. “We all need to be grateful for those who did serve with honor.”

http://www.thenation.com/article/powmias-amp-john-mccain/

If you go to the original article on The Nation it will be preceded by a few comments back and forth from competing notables on the subject including Schanberg. Note the following comment from another lib:

"It was extremely disturbing to see The Nation provide space to Sydney Schanberg alleging that John McCain was part of a conspiracy to suppress information about POWs left behind in Vietnam. That would mean that John Kerry and Bill Clinton were also part of the conspiracy, not to mention the Pentagon and the State Department.

Having made more than fifty trips to Vietnam, beginning in 1975, I think the only reality of this story is as evidence of how hard it is for the United States to lose a war. I feel no less a desire than The Nation to ensure that McCain is not our next president, but such an article is Swiftboat revisionism with the endorsement of the country’s leading progressive publication.

JOHN McAULIFF
Executive director
Fund for Reconciliation and Development

I just don't find enough credibility on the story. My opinion.

Where was McCain in the VA scandal? Was he support veterans then? He only jumped on board when it became national news. What "oversight" was he providing?