The Amish

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Baptist City Holdout said:
Very far from that.
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Years ago, we were vacationing at a somewhat rural beach hotel in northern Florida and somehow ended up with the only room in a building that was exclusively rented out by an Amish group from the Ohio or West Virginia area. I was told that this group annually takes a bus to this hotel. We ended up with the only non Amish room in that building due to a booking error or whatever. They were definitely not happy about us being in between all of them. They were cordial to us, but we definitely felt somewhat shunned at the same time. It was interesting because all of the men/boys and women/girls would take rotations going to the water, but NEVER together. Also, we noticed that when the women got their turns for being by the water, there was always a couple of men who stood watching in the distance the entire time, almost like a guard of sorts. Regardless, I was impressed with how polite and well behaved all of the children were. It was like what I pictured children behaving 150 years ago.
 
Ekklesian said:
I think your issue is obedience per se.

So let me ask you something, can one be disobedient to the command to be baptized, and call himself a Christian?
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YAWN! What an "unnintelligent" question....Need to go bac to your "copy and paste" methods, Braying A.
 
I have been spending about half my time every month living among the amish in the largest Amish community per capita in the US in Holmes county over 50% of the people in the county are amish. I find them to be extremely double minded. Among the Amish their salvation is completely Works based but they are very poor at it. Among the Mennonite, most believe in Salvation by faith through grace alone. You would be hard pressed to find much difference in theses Mennonites and Old school IFB Baptist other than the head coverings. The Amish have a ton of problems being that they are pious yet lack the Holy Spirit to practice such piety being completely unregenerate. So you have fall out. In Holmes county the incest and pedophilia convictions are alarming. It is ridiculous that the bishop rules their lives but changes the rules. I am all for driving a vehicle but their are so many caveats in there rules anymore it is just absurd. You can drive an electric bike at 30-40 miles an hour but you cant have a car or motorcycle. You can drive a tractor around the town if it is a tractor for commerce/farm. You can use electricity as long as it is self generated or solar so long as the generation from an engine wasn't produced only for the sake of generating electricity but had another farm related use and you just tapped into it. You can have a cell phone if it is for work and you can have a browser so long as someone monitors your internet usage. And On and On the hypocrisies mount. The amount of wasted time shunning the tools of human development is bad stewardship and if you are just going to sneak around and do those things anyway what sense does it all make. There are many amish sects and they all have their own rules but just like all religion this too has the same problems all religious groups have - they have men who hearts are wicked. And these being unregenerate will continue to wax worse.
 
TidesofTruth said:
I have been spending about half my time every month living among the amish in the largest Amish community per capita in the US in Holmes county over 50% of the people in the county are amish. I find them to be extremely double minded. Among the Amish their salvation is completely Works based but they are very poor at it. Among the Mennonite, most believe in Salvation by faith through grace alone. You would be hard pressed to find much difference in theses Mennonites and Old school IFB Baptist other than the head coverings. The Amish have a ton of problems being that they are pious yet lack the Holy Spirit to practice such piety being completely unregenerate. So you have fall out. In Holmes county the incest and pedophilia convictions are alarming. It is ridiculous that the bishop rules their lives but changes the rules. I am all for driving a vehicle but their are so many caveats in there rules anymore it is just absurd. You can drive an electric bike at 30-40 miles an hour but you cant have a car or motorcycle. You can drive a tractor around the town if it is a tractor for commerce/farm. You can use electricity as long as it is self generated or solar so long as the generation from an engine wasn't produced only for the sake of generating electricity but had another farm related use and you just tapped into it. You can have a cell phone if it is for work and you can have a browser so long as someone monitors your internet usage. And On and On the hypocrisies mount. The amount of wasted time shunning the tools of human development is bad stewardship and if you are just going to sneak around and do those things anyway what sense does it all make. There are many amish sects and they all have their own rules but just like all religion this too has the same problems all religious groups have - they have men who hearts are wicked. And these being unregenerate will continue to wax worse.
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Thank you for posting this information. One day I’d like to do a short vacation up to Amish country just to see it all first hand. Probably will be boring…but that’s not always a bad thing!
 
This is from 2003 about an intoxicated Amish in our area who was drag racing.
Another drag race got some Amish here in trouble this summer. This kind of stuff doesn't happen all the time, but when it does we're not surprised.

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General Discussion and Debate - Amish woman seriously hurt in buggy drag race - http://www.indystar.com/print/....html (http://www.indystar.com/print/articles/4/035932-4264-127.html) Woman seriously hurt in buggy drag race The Associated Press April 14, 2003 12:35 PM DECATUR, IND. -- A drag race...
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Baptist City Holdout said:
This is from 2003 about an intoxicated Amish in our area who was drag racing.
Another drag race got some Amish here in trouble this summer. This kind of stuff doesn't happen all the time, but when it does we're not surprised.

Amish woman seriously hurt in buggy drag race - Honda-Tech - Honda Forum Discussion

General Discussion and Debate - Amish woman seriously hurt in buggy drag race - http://www.indystar.com/print/....html (http://www.indystar.com/print/articles/4/035932-4264-127.html) Woman seriously hurt in buggy drag race The Associated Press April 14, 2003 12:35 PM DECATUR, IND. -- A drag race...
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Horse buggy drag racing…LOL! 😆
 
Amish drive-by shooting: Clip clop, clip clop, clip clop, BANG! BANG! Clippety clop, clippety clop, clippety clop.

Don't rub the Amish the wrong way or they may go medieval on your heinie, according to Weird Al Yankovic:

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Harrison Ford, Viggo Mortensen, and Jan Rubes in Witness (1985)

Harrison Ford, Lukas Haas, Viggo Mortensen, Alexander Godunov, and Jan Rubes in Witness (1985)
Harrison Ford, in "Witness;" - "This ain't good for the tourist trade, you know."
 
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illinoisguy said:
Amish drive-by shooting: Clip clop, clip clop, clip clop, BANG! BANG! Clippety clop, clippety clop, clippety clop.

Don't rub the Amish the wrong way or they may go medieval on your heinie, according to Weird Al Yankovic:
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About 10 years ago there was a breakaway Amish sect in Ohio that launched "beard-cutting" attacks on their bishop's political enemies, invading their homes, pulling them out of bed and clipping off their beards or hair. The bishop was convicted of hate crimes.
 
TidesofTruth said:
I am all for driving a vehicle but their are so many caveats in there rules anymore it is just absurd. You can drive an electric bike at 30-40 miles an hour but you cant have a car or motorcycle. You can drive a tractor around the town if it is a tractor for commerce/farm. You can use electricity as long as it is self generated or solar so long as the generation from an engine wasn't produced only for the sake of generating electricity but had another farm related use and you just tapped into it. You can have a cell phone if it is for work and you can have a browser so long as someone monitors your internet usage. And On and On the hypocrisies mount. The amount of wasted time shunning the tools of human development is bad stewardship and if you are just going to sneak around and do those things anyway what sense does it all make.
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I'm not sure if I'm seeing the "hypocrisies" you mention in your examples. The Amish aren't vocally condemning modern technology while secretly using it. They aren't Luddites; they're selective about how they use technology because of how it affects the community.

While they generally don't use electricity, the law requires that dairy farmers, for example, keep their milk refrigerated--thus their livelihood requires electricity, so it's permitted in that instance. They generate their own so as not to be dependent on the grid or the "English." That's not hypocrisy; it's a needed exception to the general rule.
 
Ransom said:
I'm not sure if I'm seeing the "hypocrisies" you mention in your examples. The Amish aren't vocally condemning modern technology while secretly using it. They aren't Luddites; they're selective about how they use technology because of how it affects the community.

While they generally don't use electricity, the law requires that dairy farmers, for example, keep their milk refrigerated--thus their livelihood requires electricity, so it's permitted in that instance. They generate their own so as not to be dependent on the grid or the "English." That's not hypocrisy; it's a needed exception to the general rule.
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Our Amish get their electricity off their neighbor's grid.
 
AverageJoe said:
True! Many of their "foods" are terrible....They do have some nice quilts and wood products, though! :) We have a community not too far from where we live now.
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Very true, but I have been told that in some cases their wares aren't even made by them but rather purchased down South.😟
 
Ransom said:
I'm not sure if I'm seeing the "hypocrisies" you mention in your examples. The Amish aren't vocally condemning modern technology while secretly using it. They aren't Luddites; they're selective about how they use technology because of how it affects the community.

While they generally don't use electricity, the law requires that dairy farmers, for example, keep their milk refrigerated--thus their livelihood requires electricity, so it's permitted in that instance. They generate their own so as not to be dependent on the grid or the "English." That's not hypocrisy; it's a needed exception to the general rule.
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You certainly touch upon an element of truth regarding what some perceive as inconsistencies, but some of the people around me that live very near them tell similar stories about rampant hypocrisy. Their simple designation in regards to the ones that shun the "English" ways appropriately (vs those who blur the lines) is "old Amish".
 
ALAYMAN said:
Very true, but I have been told that in some cases their wares aren't even made by them but rather purchased down South.😟
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They're not in our area...they make them all themselves. I've watched them. There are SOME good cooks, and they even have a restaurant over near Knoxville, TN...yet MOST of them can't cook worth a flip IMHO.
 
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