Biden’s America

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and how does all that i said go return back to the theme of the o.p..... and address the problems in bidens america?....... well.... the way i see it.... you know the things coming out of washington have gotten really bad when something a mormon is saying is making sense..... or when you find yourselves defending.. or attacking.. the same ground... :confused:....
 
you know the things coming out of washington have gotten really bad when something a mormon is saying is making sense..... or when you find yourselves defending.. or attacking.. the same ground
One thing I firmly believe is that Christians, particularly the more conservative Christians, have got to put aside some differences with those who are not likeminded, and begin to seek out common ground for long term goals, particularly when it comes to politics and laws. Sometimes politics makes strange bedfellows. For example, while conservatives and hardcore feminists probably don’t share a lot in common, they’ve recently found a lot of common ground when it comes to the transgender and sports dilemma in this country.

I think for far too long, conservative Christians have sought to be separatists. What (and where) has that gotten us to in 2023?
 
"Beck’s a member in good standing of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Um…Mormons reject the Trinity, as in the T in TBN. Do Jan & Sons not know that Mormons contend they’re the true remnant of the Christian church — the one true church?

"Since Mormonism denies central doctrines of the faith it’s not Christian by any stretch. In fact, Mormonism is considered a theological cult or a sect. Don’t be fooled by the rumor that has been circulating for several years, fueled by David Barton, that Glenn Beck is a Christian and that he’s saved. If this is true, then why would Beck keep the news from his friends and fans? Moreover, a truly regenerate Christian would understand that he must cut all ties with the LDS Church and join a church where the true gospel of Christ is preached.

"But Glenn Beck hasn’t cut ties with his church. Instead he promotes Mormonism."


 
If the Morons are such godly conservatives, then why did they endorse the [Dis]Respect For Marriage Act that promotes sodomy?

They “supported” the same-sex marriage act solely because it ultimately protected their church. What the LDS has provided is a roadmap that Baptists should follow in seeking ecumenical cooperation with the “world” in order to provide protections of Christian morals. From the Washington Post:

Attention to the church’s announcement obscures a key fact, however: A religious exemption in the bill, known as the Respect for Marriage Act, actually shields the church from having to conduct or sanction same-sex marriages.
 
The Utah Lighthouse Mission web site is an excellent resource with documentation on the heresies of the Moron cult, and of the occultic practices of their founder Joseph Smith. For instance, see this article on Joseph Smith the Money-Digger:

"In another article published in Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought (Winter 1972, pp. 77, 78), Marvin S. Hill wrote: 'There may be little doubt now, as I have indicated elsewhere, that Joseph Smith was brought to trial in 1826 on a charge, not exactly clear, associated with money digging.... For the historian interested in Joseph Smith the man, it does not seem incongruous for him to have hunted for treasure with a seer stone and then to use it with full faith to receive revelations from the Lord.'" . . .

"The court record plainly shows that Joseph Smith was deeply involved in magic practices at the very time he was supposed to be preparing himself to receive the plates for the Book of Mormon. . . .

"In 1974 Dr. Reed Durham, who was director of the LDS Institute of Religion at the University of Utah and president of the Mormon History Association, made a discovery that was so startling that it caused great consternation among Mormon scholars and officials. Dr. Durham found that what had previously been identified as the 'Masonic jewel of the Prophet Joseph Smith' was in reality a 'Jupiter talisman.' This is a medallion which contains material relating to astrology and magic. Dr. Durham, apparently not realizing the devastating implications of his discovery, announced this important find in his presidential address before the Mormon History Association on April 20, 1974:

"'... I should like to initiate all of you into what is perhaps the strangest, the most mysterious, occult-like esoteric, and yet Masonically oriented practice ever adopted by Joseph Smith.... All available evidence suggests that Joseph Smith the Prophet possessed a magical Masonic medallion, or talisman. . . . And in some very real and quite mysterious sense, this particular Table of Jupiter was the most appropriate talisman for Joseph Smith to possess. Indeed, it seemed meant for him, because on all levels of interpretation: planetary, mythological, numerological, astrological, mystical cabalism, and talismatic magic, the Prophet was, in every case, appropriately described.'"


[See this link]

 
I suppose, but then again, they’d probably call us a cult as well. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Personally, I don't care what they call us. We try to live by the Bible, follow Christ, and not be dependent upon the writings and ravings of a lunatic murderer and con-man!
 

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If?
 
They “supported” the same-sex marriage act solely because it ultimately protected their church. What the LDS has provided is a roadmap that Baptists should follow in seeking ecumenical cooperation with the “world” in order to provide protections of Christian morals.

I prefer to not follow the LDS "roadmap" that leads to the enactment of laws like the (Dis)Respect For Marriage Act. "With the signing of the 'Respect for Marriage Act' into law, if you do not accept or affirm same-sex 'marriage,' you are now in the same category as a racist. And you can be assured that this will be used as a weapon against you in the days to come."


"The legislation puts small business owners at risk of fines and imprisonment for declining participation in a same-sex wedding celebration. . . . At a minimum, conservative senators from America’s heartland should insist that the legislation have airtight protections for nonprofit organizations and social service providers (e.g., adoption, foster care), as well as for small business owners and contractors." This was not done. The final version of the act, as amended, may protect the LDS and other denominations from lawsuits, but it does not protect individual Christians, whose refusal to endorse gay marriage has now been criminalized by the passage of this act. If this is the end result of "ecumenical cooperation with the world," then I can't recommend it.

 
The final version of the act, as amended, may protect the LDS and other denominations from lawsuits, but it does not protect individual Christians, whose refusal to endorse gay marriage has now been criminalized by the passage of this act. If this is the end result of "ecumenical cooperation with the world," then I can't recommend it.
Didn’t the SC already rule in favor of the Christian bakery? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ke-bakers-who-rebuffed-lesbians-idUSKCN1TI1MQ
 
Uh, that article about the Christian bakers Aaron and Melissa Klein is dated 2019. This update on the Kleins, dated June 2022, indicates that they were forced to close down their Oregon bakery and move to Montana, and their case is still working through the courts. How the (Dis)Respect For Marriage Act, endorsed by the LDS and by all good trendy wokesters, will affect their court case, remains to be seen, but it will probably hurt their case.


For some recent negative commentary on the amended final version of the act, see this site:


KELLY SHACKELFORD, FIRST LIBERTY INSTITUTE: “The so-called ‘Respect for Marriage Act’ lets radical activists harass faith-based institutions in court because of their religious beliefs about marriage. No American should be punished for holding a faith-based view on marriage, even if that view conflicts with the government’s current preferred definition."

JAMES DOBSON AND GARY BAUER, FAMILY TALK: “This legislation puts a bull’s eye on the backs of millions of Americans who passionately believe in marriage as the union of one man and one woman. This bill just weaponized a woke posse to go after anyone who wants to simply follow their religious conscience.”

JAMESON TAYLOR, AMERICAN FAMILY ASSOCIATION: “The real purpose of this bill is to weaponize federal agencies, like the IRS, DOJ and FBI, to harass and target Christian schools, adoption agencies and social service organizations that hold sincere religious beliefs about traditional marriage. The Respect for Marriage Act is dangerous and could be used by the IRS to deprive Christian schools, universities, and adoption agencies of their nonprofit status, and also bar them from receiving federal grants and contracts."


Sorry, but I don't think the LDS has done us any favors by endorsing this bill.
 
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If there were any respect for marriage in this country, the idiots in Congress wouldn't have put aside thousands of years of marriage between a man and a woman to pervert it in any way possible. I expect soon we'll see people marrying paper bags because they see an image of someone they love on it. UGH! This country has gone to hell in a handbasket!
 
I’m sorry, but the old separatist way of doing things hasn’t gotten us anywhere but to, as Joe said, “hell in a hand basket.” Christian schools and colleges are another example. Back around the 70s and 80s, Christians (with any means) began fleeing public schools for Christian schools and homeschooling. Teachers followed suit. And what is the status of public schools and colleges today? See what I mean?
 
I’m sorry, but the old separatist way of doing things hasn’t gotten us anywhere but to, as Joe said, “hell in a hand basket.” Christian schools and colleges are another example. Back around the 70s and 80s, Christians (with any means) began fleeing public schools for Christian schools and homeschooling. Teachers followed suit. And what is the status of public schools and colleges today? See what I mean?
They'd been heading that way for a long time. I don't believe the exodus of many Christians from the public schools really contributed much to the problem. There were many who kept their kids in public schools, and their kids ended up with a lax view of Christianity, church, and God in most cases. I've seen very few who kept their children in public schools rejoicing over their decision to do so. You're correct....you're just too young to remember much about many eras since the 60s. I'm not, and neither are many others here. No offense intended, but, sometimes youth has its disadvantages.
 
you're just too young to remember much about many eras since the 60s. I'm not, and neither are many others here. No offense intended, but, sometimes youth has its disadvantages.
I can respect that point of view. I suppose I sometimes romanticize what life was probably like before my time, and the truth is, there were many changes already taking place in society such as the hippie movement, and race riots and so on. That being said, I am old enough to know that when I was a kid, attitudes towards gay marriage, transgendered people, etc, wasn’t like it is with today’s youth.
 
I can respect that point of view. I suppose I sometimes romanticize what life was probably like before my time, and the truth is, there were many changes already taking place in society such as the hippie movement, and race riots and so on. That being said, I am old enough to know that when I was a kid, attitudes towards gay marriage, transgendered people, etc, wasn’t like it is with today’s youth.
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The push was around in the 70s. I just thought it was cool entertainment, but was it something else?
 
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BEST commentary on that show. Ever.

The push was around in the 70s. I just thought it was cool entertainment, but was it something else?
Maybe it’s possible that there was never a time in history that humans had higher morals, but maybe those behaviors were just better hidden and kept “in the closet” rather than openly promoted and praised. Certainly we know in the days of Noah, Moses, etc., there was plenty of wickedness among the citizens of Egypt and elsewhere in the world.
 
I can respect that point of view. I suppose I sometimes romanticize what life was probably like before my time, and the truth is, there were many changes already taking place in society such as the hippie movement, and race riots and so on. That being said, I am old enough to know that when I was a kid, attitudes towards gay marriage, transgendered people, etc, wasn’t like it is with today’s youth.
Attitudes have been changing towards all of the sexual misdeeds of people. Back in the 1960s, a pedophile in our neighborhood was nearly killed by neighbors just for saying "good morning" to a child that passed by the house he was renting. Had the owners known that he was a deviant, he would never have been allowed to rent that house, especially so close to a church and school. During the 70s I only knew of one transgender person, and I worked with him...he was born a man, but claimed he was a woman and worked as a waitress...UGH! It was very difficult to work around this idiocy, and many were toeing the line, so to say. I was not one to do that. He wanted to be called "Tiffany" though his name was Timothy. I called him Tim. Gay marriage wasn't a thing known to me, though civil unions were, and it wasn't really known in our community until the late 70s and early 1980s. I have three lesbian cousins, one is married to a woman. The other two have their "ladies", but, neither of them plans on marrying.
Today's youth are all for the LGBTQ+ agenda. My niece and her husband totally cut my wife and me off because we wouldn't echo their drivel about these people, calling us hateful, bigoted, racist, etc....all the terms the Democrats try to give people who stand against such idiocy.
 
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During the 70s I only knew of one transgender person, and I worked with him...he was born a man, but claimed he was a woman and worked as a waitress...UGH! It was very difficult to work around this idiocy, and many were toeing the line, so to say. I was not one to do that. He wanted to be called "Tiffany" though his name was Timothy. I called him Tim. Gay marriage wasn't a thing known to me, though civil unions were, and it wasn't really known in our community until the late 70s and early 1980s.
I didn’t realize there were openly transgender people back in the 70s, although I wasn’t even alive in the 70s. Gay marriage was something I wasn’t aware of as a kid, but I do remember hearing about civil unions on the news in the early 90s, though it wasn’t law anywhere I ever lived.
 
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