He May Be A Lot Of Things

subllibrm said:
But this should remove any questions about whether he is a Republican or not.

www.foxbusiness.com

Trump calls tariff opponents 'fools,' promises $2K dividend payments for Americans

Trump calls tariff critics "fools" and promises $2,000 dividend for Americans from tariff revenue as his trade policies face Supreme Court challenge.
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Tldr;

I think you may be oversimplifying the free trade vs protectionism paradigm by using Democrat sloganeering.
But Trump has appropriated anti-free trade rhetoric from a different focus than the campaigns against treaties. It is true that some points of his argument are similar: the critique of jobs relocation, the impacts of FTAs on workers, the opposition to agreements such as the TPP, and criticisms of NAFTA and the WTO. But he does this primarily from a nationalist-corporate matrix that does not question the fundamental asymmetries of the global economic order nor incorporate demands for international environmental or labor justice. On the contrary, what Trump vindicates is an exclusionary economic nationalism: his objective is not to rediscuss the role of US corporations, but to make them strong again. Rather than "Make America Great Again", his motto should be: "Make US Corporations Great Again."---Link
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Okay, if I am understanding correctly, the federal deficit is not a problem that needs to be addressed with the increased revenue generated by the tariffs. Rather the first thing that needs to be done is give everyone some free money. Yup, right out of the GOP playbook. Does no one remember how much flack Clinton took from the right for talking about a peace dividend?

Principles only have value to the principled. The rest is a bunch of relativistic rationalization.
 
subllibrm said:
Okay, if I am understanding correctly, the federal deficit is not a problem that needs to be addressed with the increased revenue generated by the tariffs.
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I just read an article that said just the opposite. The revenue generated by the tariffs is supposed to assist in cutting into the deficit.
 
ALAYMAN said:
I just read an article that said just the opposite. The revenue generated by the tariffs is supposed to assist in cutting into the deficit.
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Except for the free money he wants to give us? Where does that fit into the equation? Fiscal responsibility is not his strong suit.
 
ALAYMAN said:
I just read an article that said just the opposite. The revenue generated by the tariffs is supposed to assist in cutting into the deficit.
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BTW it was sarcasm. 😉
 
This is kind of like tax return season when folks have an opportunity to pay down debt but blow it on a new tattoo.
 
subllibrm said:
Okay, if I am understanding correctly, the federal deficit is not a problem that needs to be addressed with the increased revenue generated by the tariffs. Rather the first thing that needs to be done is give everyone some free money. Yup, right out of the GOP playbook. Does no one remember how much flack Clinton took from the right for talking about a peace dividend?

Principles only have value to the principled. The rest is a bunch of relativistic rationalization.
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you don;t have to keep the money.... . you can always give it back or tear up the check when it comes in... . then tell the gov to apply your share to the deficit or the national debt 💵 .............. oh wait...:unsure:.... trump said the money would only be given to those of low and middle income.... ... you probably won;t qualify for this anway - will you....:confused:

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Another episode of Sub’s regular ‘ Look what Trump did’ series.

Does he really bother you that much, Sub?
 
subllibrm said:
This is kind of like tax return season when folks have an opportunity to pay down debt but blow it on a new tattoo.
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Or build a new ballroom.




Just beating you to the punch for the next talking point.😉
 
aleshanee said:
you don;t have to keep the money.... . you can always give it back or tear up the check when it comes in... . then tell the gov to apply your share to the deficit or the national debt 💵 .............. oh wait...:unsure:.... trump said the money would only be given to those of low and middle income.... ... you probably won;t qualify for this anway - will you....:confused:

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Actually he said everyone except high income earners. No definitions provided so I guess no one knows who qualifies for the raid on the treasury.
 
“As his trade policie face Supreme Court challenges”

Key phrase here. He knows they will probably rule against him. He’s not serious. If he was serious, he would say this after they would rule in his favor.
But he not serious. He knows.
 
subllibrm said:
Actually he said everyone except high income earners. No definitions provided so I guess no one knows who qualifies for the raid on the treasury.
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how is it a raid on the treasury?... ..... he is only giving back a little bit of the money you guys complained you would have to pay the treasury in the first place - through high tarriffs and increased prices.. ......... .oh wait... .. that didn;t happen did it.... ....prices on many of the tarriffed products either stayed the same or came down.... :unsure:.......... ...... you must feel shorted one former griping point...... oh well...... carry on then......:sneaky:
 
aleshanee said:
how is it a raid on the treasury?... ..... he is only giving back a little bit of the money you guys complained you would have to pay the treasury in the first place - through high tarriffs and increased prices.. ......... .oh wait... .. that didn;t happen did it.... ....prices on many of the tarriffed products either stayed the same or came down.... :unsure:.......... ...... you must feel shorted one former griping point...... oh well...... carry on then......:sneaky:
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On what products did the prices come down? I haven’t felt it or seen it
 
Bruh said:
On what products did the prices come down?
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gasoline..... eggs... many kinds of produce... many types of groceries.... .... smart phones.... . televisions.... to name just a few....

Bruh said:
I haven’t felt it or seen it
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well maybe you don;t do all the shopping....... or maybe louisianna is just a special kind of price jacked place.... .i don;t know......

by the way..... hawaii is an extremely price jacked place..... practically everything we use comes from some place else - unless we hunt it or fish for it ourselves..... ..even things like milk and eggs now days..... . but even we noticed a drop in a few prices while others remained the same..... . i haven;t seen anything go sky high in price like democrats said it was going to do..... ..

but even it does all go up... ... trump says he;s trying to give us all extra money that would help cover it.....:).. ...... but some people don;t want the money....... go figure..... 🤨
 
subllibrm said:
The ballroom isn't public money.
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Sub, you think I didn't know that? I'm losing faith in your powers of perception.😉

You were comparing the alleged fiscal irresponsibility of Trump's 2k kickback to splurging on tattoos (despite Trump's tariffs in relatively extremely greater proportion paying down our debt, to the tune of 4 trillion dollars by some estimates). So I used the outlandish and impertinent claim of Dems about Trump's expensive East wing ballroom (even though no taxpayer money was being spent) to highlight the absurd length Dems go to in their TDS.

And to add insult to TDS injury, once the Dems are told none of their tax dollars are being spent on the ballroom they pivot the argument to something about "bad optics", or "tearing down history". It seems like a danged if you do danged if you don't proposition.
 
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