Interesting reformed church visit today, a report card.

As I've been fond of telling other fundies for years, "is too!" is not an argument.
When you ass/u/me something, you make an ass out of you and me. You started out with the assumptions. I gave you the counter assumptions. Maybe you should practice what you preach.
 
When you ass/u/me something, you make an ass out of you and me. You started out with the assumptions. I gave you the counter assumptions. Maybe you should practice what you preach.
I didn't make any assumptions. I identified your assumptions.

You then made Assumption #3: that I believe the opposite of your Assumptions #1 and 2.
 
I know a godly young man ready to go on the mission field who likes Christian metal. It is an exercise in cognitive dissonance in my estimation, but his testimony is solid. I just can’t fathom how that sound is God honoring.
churches have been mixing entertainment with worship for so long now they have lost the ability to tell the difference......
 
churches have been mixing entertainment with worship for so long now they have lost the ability to tell the difference......

Well, there's the rub. As I've said in the past, there are certain musical genres that wouldn't be suitable for worship. Since worship music is congregational, it needs to be not too technically complex, of a musical range suitable for the average person to sing, and quiet enough that we can hear each other. "Harder" genres like punk, industrial, and metal don't meet those criteria. (They're also fairly aggressive and angry, so incongruous with what should be a joyous and celebratory experience.)

But I don't personally mind metal, though it's not all my cup of tea (definitely not the more extreme forms like the aforementioned Enoch), and I have a few Christian metal CDs. They're fine as entertainment (most contemporary Christian music existing not for corporate worship, but as an alternative to worldly entertainment).

As for what is "God honoring," I don't get into debates about what mechanical sounds, tones, and chords "honour God." Without a particle of Scripture or theology to support them, it comes down to "well, I don't like it, so neither does God."
 


As for what is "God honoring," I don't get into debates about what mechanical sounds, tones, and chords "honour God." Without a particle of Scripture or theology to support them, it comes down to "well, I don't like it, so neither does God."
"I know it when I see it"—Potter Stewart

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As far as “mechanical sounds, tones, and chords”, just like ABCDEFG is amoral, string them into sentences and they suddenly take on a moral tone. Same with music.
 
As far as “mechanical sounds, tones, and chords”, just like ABCDEFG is amoral, string them into sentences and they suddenly take on a moral tone. Same with music.

But is CCCGABCBAG CBAGAFEDC more moral if it's played on a pipe organ or an electric guitar?
 
Then why do the non-elect pay for them in hell?

Also, you have yet to give a definition of "propitiation" (1 John 2:1).
Where in scripture does it say the non-elect are paying for their sins in hell?

My understanding is that hell is the consequence for not having faith in Christ.
 
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