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So, when 7.4 says it rained forty days and forty nights, we are supposed to believe this is an allegory (your words), then you shift to calling it an idiom that is an indeterminate amount of time. I guess the number, 110 days in 7:24 must also be some idiom that stretches the story into an...

First, idioms are not the same as allegory. Idiomatic sayings are understood normally in their context. They are not allegory. I maintain that these were normal days. Moses also used "forty days" to compare to "forty years." Not exactly idiomatic. Numbers 13:25 The spies were gone for forty...

The number 40 days is not an idiom. They are normal days. Moses, the writer, always uses the word "yom" to refer to a normal day. When Moses says Noah was 600 years, is that an idiom as well? Allegorical interpretations are not the same as a historical/grammatical approach to Scripture.

Double yikes! I'm struggling to stay alive since I took the Adsense off this site... I might have time to post more in a minute when my boss let's me have more time.

Yikes!

... and our Christian faith is neither confirmed nor bolstered if Noah's Ark is found.

From one brother to another, you need to work at removing some of that baggage.

Terry... were you or are you currently a fundamentalist?

Speaking as owner of this forum, no one is getting disciplined. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Our moderators are doing well! Don't look spammy with a name like "Stopgap" and silly email. This is a forum filled with current and former fundamentalists... looks like you have some fundy PTSD ;)

I find this fascinating... unlike Ken Hamm who has already dismissed this. https://www.facebook.com/share/1FMMQRAZhi/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Hey Trump!!! Rename Ontario!!! ;)

Lol! You live in North America. He didnt name it Lake United States.

Thanks for sharing that.

In practice, how does this look in your church? Is there a formal meeting with the church voting?

Better than making up rules that don't exist. The Bible tells us how to deal with the unsaved who want to leave a marriage. It's not a stretch of application in my mind. Why pester the unsaved who don't want to hang around? Just let them go and take them off the membership rolls.

I have a bit of a different perspective on this... The Bible is not explicit in the process of leaving a church, mid discipline. The Bible DOES give instruction to a woman, whose unbelieving spouse wants to leave... "let him go." Since there is no particular directive given regarding the...

EVERY church/institution I have been associated with.

I was raised IFB --Church --Bible College --Seminary --YouthPastor in an IFB church --Assistant Pastor in an IFB church --Associate Pastor in an IFB church --Assisted with planting a couple of IFB churches We hit the road in a RV 15 years ago. Visited gospel preaching churches and only found 5...

I hosted a ski trip with multiple churches. One youth group, all the girls wore skirts over ski pants. The youth pastor wore a suit coat!! The next week, after the trip, the youth pastor called me and said he was disappointed our "standards" were so low. I asked him if he was a Baptist and...