A Serious Question...

Jo said:
Then there is always the dilemma if a woman goes skiing.
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arguments like this permeated the fff when i first joined the forum in 2004....

i was told first ... (and by many different people)...that women had no business surfing because it was "unladylike"..... then was told that if i just had to surf, they saw no reason i could not do it wearing coulottes... ... (what i called kluglottes)..... ...this suggestion of course came from non-surfers who had never been further out in the ocean past knee deep.... much less tossed around in heavy pacific waves breaking over their heads......🌊 ....... .same people said they saw no reason i could not wear coulottes to go bow hunting for wild hogs in a tropical jungle full of razor grass hidden ravines and sharp volcanic rocks.... :sneaky:

prior to that - when my dad first joined the forum - he had gotten raked over for working on sundays (as a firefighter paramedic)...and for working with female partners who wore pants on the job........ all of it comes from the same mindset that teaches fundamentalist men..both christian and muslim.. they should have the dominion over all women everywhere no matter where they live - or who they are... and if not that then at least be able to dictate what they do and how they do it.... .. ....i;m glad some of those old attitudes and assumptions are dying out... 😑....
 
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aleshanee said:
prior to that - when my dad first joined the forum - he had gotten raked over for working on sundays (as a firefighter paramedic)...and for working with female partners who wore pants on the job........ all of it comes from the same mindset that teaches fundamentalist men..both christian and muslim.. they should have the dominion over all women everywhere no matter where they live - or who they are... and if not that then at least be able to dictate what they do and how they do it.... .. ....i;m glad some of those old attitudes and assumptions are dying out... 😑....
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I couldn't imagine (nor do I recall) anyone on the FFF criticizing "Deep Six" for working on Sundays or around women who wear britches. What I can imagine is a lot of folks here having fun with and spoofing such things! I am sure there were a few trolls and sockpuppets joining in on the fun and much of this was the "beauty" of the glory days of the old FFF!;)

If I recall correctly, I believe your dad had a good sense of humor and rolled with the punches with the best of them!:cool:
 
Baptist Renegade said:
I couldn't imagine (nor do I recall) anyone on the FFF criticizing "Deep Six" for working on Sundays or around women who wear britches. What I r can imagine is a lot of folks here having fun with and spoofing such things! I am sure there were a few trolls and sockpuppets joining in on the fun and much of this was the "beauty" of the glory days of the old FFF!;)

If I recall correctly, I believe your dad had a good sense of humor and rolled with the punches with the best of them!:cool:
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i don;t rmember who it was making the big deal about it... the name song-gallery comes to mind.... i think the others was one or more of the infamous killer bees.... . but i do remember my dad laughing about it.... ..in fact that is one of the things that inspired him to write his spoof story called the tale of the ifbx samaritan .... .i wish we had a copy of that... . it was hilarious.....

the argument however concerning me wearing camo bdu pants to hunt in the jungle went on for a long time... . made even worse when i mentioned that i wore udt shorts to bike ride and go to the archery range...... it;s what got me labelled an unchurched rebel and loose cannon by the killer bees on the old forum... :cool:. .. ...i thought that was unfair.... since moving here i have always gone to church.... .just not their church..... :sneaky:
 
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This is a response from someone who definitely is "in the know":

1. HAC girls cannot wear pants
2. Pastor Wilkerson is against pants, and will preach on it. However, a bit "nicer" than the old guard. He will say something "clothing is for protection, modesty, and distinction..."
3. The official position, even at Hammond Baptist is that if girls wear coulottes, you can't be able to tell they're not a skirt. In other words, they must have the appearance of a skirt
4. Visitors are not reprimanded if they come in pants. In fact, we have a service every year where we encourage them to bring their coworkers for chapel, and many of the ladies come in pants
 
WESLEY said:
This is a response from someone who definitely is "in the know":

1. HAC girls cannot wear pants
2. Pastor Wilkerson is against pants, and will preach on it. However, a bit "nicer" than the old guard. He will say something "clothing is for protection, modesty, and distinction..."
3. The official position, even at Hammond Baptist is that if girls wear coulottes, you can't be able to tell they're not a skirt. In other words, they must have the appearance of a skirt
4. Visitors are not reprimanded if they come in pants. In fact, we have a service every year where we encourage them to bring their coworkers for chapel, and many of the ladies come in pants
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Thank you for this information.
 
aleshanee said:
i don;t rmember who it was making the big deal about it... the name song-gallery comes to mind.... i think the others was one or more of the infamous killer bees.... . but i do remember my dad laughing about it.... ..in fact that is one of the things that inspired him to write his spoof story called the tale of the ifbx samaritan .... .i wish we had a copy of that... . it was hilarious.....

the argument however concerning me wearing camo bdu pants to hunt in the jungle went on for a long time... . made even worse when i mentioned that i wore udt shorts to bike ride and go to the archery range...... it;s what got me labelled an unchurched rebel and loose cannon by the killer bees on the old forum... :cool:. .. ...i thought that was unfair.... since moving here i have always gone to church.... .just not their church..... :sneaky:
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"unchurched rebel. loose cannon" Now if they meant that you could probably best them in archery and surfing, well then I agree. But you are a godly, patient, kind, gentle soul, the essence of godliness and they were proud, arrogant boasters, like clouds without water.
 
Bob Jones VI said:
"unchurched rebel. loose cannon" Now if they meant that you could probably best them in archery and surfing, well then I agree. But you are a godly, patient, kind, gentle soul, the essence of godliness and they were proud, arrogant boasters, like clouds without water.
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By "Killer Bees" I believe that Aleshanee is referring to "Baptist, Brennan, and Braemer" who each held firmly to the tenets of "Classic IFBism" and could get characteristically legalistic at times. Brennan was more reasonable of the three and has actually written a book later on exposing some of the extremeties of the IFB movement.

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Baptist Renegade said:
By "Killer Bees" I believe that Aleshanee is referring to "Baptist, Brennan, and Braemer" who each held firmly to the tenets of "Classic IFBism" and could get characteristically legalistic at times. Brennan was more reasonable of the three and has actually written a book later on exposing some of the extremeties of the IFB movement.

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yeah..... and he also stole the idea for that picture from me... from one of the avatars
i created and used on the old fff ...which was 2 different charicature drawings of my face
blended side by side... .i confronted him about that and he claimed the said the marketing
department did that and he had nothing to do with it......... .......ok. ....whatever... ...:rolleyes:
 
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Baptist Renegade said:
By "Killer Bees" I believe that Aleshanee is referring to "Baptist, Brennan, and Braemer" who each held firmly to the tenets of "Classic IFBism" and could get characteristically legalistic at times. Brennan was more reasonable of the three and has actually written a book later on exposing some of the extremeties of the IFB movement.
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but anyway..... yes..... brennan is the one who made the comment about me being unchurched - it was in a post he made giving his opinions of various forum members.....kinda judgemental about everyone he mentioned in my opinion.... ..but i actually got along pretty well with baptist...... ...

and in a way... i feel like i owe marty braemer an apology.. .. he made a comment/accusation about southern ifbers on the old forum that several took exception to... .. i even said i thought it was an inappropriate and classless thing to say... .but then a few years after he left the forum i saw that very thing he spoke of happen.... :oops:.... ... it was unbelievable.... . and that is all i will say about it here ..... ....
 
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