What He Said.Bruh said:
It's too bad. Although I disagreed with him about many things, he at least attempts to use reason to arrive at his conclusions. I occasionally read what he has written with interest and some level of agreement...and it's rare I can say that about an IFB type.Binaca Chugger said:
cpizzle said:Those who read my reply on the New IFBs may be surprised to know that I agree with nearly everything this article says. Primarily because he singles out the "worst of the worst" and doesn't pretend that all Old Time Religion pastors are in agreement with the Bob Gray crowd. Keep in mind, despite the fact that the group mentioned love Dr. Hyles, they hate HAC and have long thought it was too liberal. I have known many TBC graduates who thought I was a compromiser for going to Hyles-Anderson
The problems that I have with the IFB movement are personified and amplified with the men listed. They give most of us a very bad name. Are we partially to blame for identifying with them or by not calling them out...probably. But I don't criticize them any more than I criticize the new IB's. They are a too far right while the IB's are a little too far left.
Bruh said:cpizzle said:Those who read my reply on the New IFBs may be surprised to know that I agree with nearly everything this article says. Primarily because he singles out the "worst of the worst" and doesn't pretend that all Old Time Religion pastors are in agreement with the Bob Gray crowd. Keep in mind, despite the fact that the group mentioned love Dr. Hyles, they hate HAC and have long thought it was too liberal. I have known many TBC graduates who thought I was a compromiser for going to Hyles-Anderson
The problems that I have with the IFB movement are personified and amplified with the men listed. They give most of us a very bad name. Are we partially to blame for identifying with them or by not calling them out...probably. But I don't criticize them any more than I criticize the new IB's. They are a too far right while the IB's are a little too far left.
When I read Josh's blog post this is the crowd (the names Ryan Hayden listed) that came to my mind.
I didn't take it like Josh was, broad brushing, the IFB as a whole but instead pointing out the crowd that Ryan has listed.
Does Greg Neal actually "preach" out?Darkwing Duck said:Bruh said:cpizzle said:Those who read my reply on the New IFBs may be surprised to know that I agree with nearly everything this article says. Primarily because he singles out the "worst of the worst" and doesn't pretend that all Old Time Religion pastors are in agreement with the Bob Gray crowd. Keep in mind, despite the fact that the group mentioned love Dr. Hyles, they hate HAC and have long thought it was too liberal. I have known many TBC graduates who thought I was a compromiser for going to Hyles-Anderson
The problems that I have with the IFB movement are personified and amplified with the men listed. They give most of us a very bad name. Are we partially to blame for identifying with them or by not calling them out...probably. But I don't criticize them any more than I criticize the new IB's. They are a too far right while the IB's are a little too far left.
When I read Josh's blog post this is the crowd (the names Ryan Hayden listed) that came to my mind.
I didn't take it like Josh was, broad brushing, the IFB as a whole but instead pointing out the crowd that Ryan has listed.
Yep. When I read Josh Teis' article these preachers are exactly who I had in mind.
Bruh said:cpizzle said:Those who read my reply on the New IFBs may be surprised to know that I agree with nearly everything this article says. Primarily because he singles out the "worst of the worst" and doesn't pretend that all Old Time Religion pastors are in agreement with the Bob Gray crowd. Keep in mind, despite the fact that the group mentioned love Dr. Hyles, they hate HAC and have long thought it was too liberal. I have known many TBC graduates who thought I was a compromiser for going to Hyles-Anderson
The problems that I have with the IFB movement are personified and amplified with the men listed. They give most of us a very bad name. Are we partially to blame for identifying with them or by not calling them out...probably. But I don't criticize them any more than I criticize the new IB's. They are a too far right while the IB's are a little too far left.
When I read Josh's blog post this is the crowd (the names Ryan Hayden listed) that came to my mind.
I didn't take it like Josh was, broad brushing, the IFB as a whole but instead pointing out the crowd that Ryan has listed.
cpizzle said:Bruh said:cpizzle said:Those who read my reply on the New IFBs may be surprised to know that I agree with nearly everything this article says. Primarily because he singles out the "worst of the worst" and doesn't pretend that all Old Time Religion pastors are in agreement with the Bob Gray crowd. Keep in mind, despite the fact that the group mentioned love Dr. Hyles, they hate HAC and have long thought it was too liberal. I have known many TBC graduates who thought I was a compromiser for going to Hyles-Anderson
The problems that I have with the IFB movement are personified and amplified with the men listed. They give most of us a very bad name. Are we partially to blame for identifying with them or by not calling them out...probably. But I don't criticize them any more than I criticize the new IB's. They are a too far right while the IB's are a little too far left.
When I read Josh's blog post this is the crowd (the names Ryan Hayden listed) that came to my mind.
I didn't take it like Josh was, broad brushing, the IFB as a whole but instead pointing out the crowd that Ryan has listed.
I disagree. Those guys are small potatoes and don't define the full spectrum of IFB's. He may use their extremes as illustrations, but he is certainly referring to Dr. Hyles and HAC as well.
Tarheel Baptist said:cpizzle said:Bruh said:cpizzle said:Those who read my reply on the New IFBs may be surprised to know that I agree with nearly everything this article says. Primarily because he singles out the "worst of the worst" and doesn't pretend that all Old Time Religion pastors are in agreement with the Bob Gray crowd. Keep in mind, despite the fact that the group mentioned love Dr. Hyles, they hate HAC and have long thought it was too liberal. I have known many TBC graduates who thought I was a compromiser for going to Hyles-Anderson
The problems that I have with the IFB movement are personified and amplified with the men listed. They give most of us a very bad name. Are we partially to blame for identifying with them or by not calling them out...probably. But I don't criticize them any more than I criticize the new IB's. They are a too far right while the IB's are a little too far left.
When I read Josh's blog post this is the crowd (the names Ryan Hayden listed) that came to my mind.
I didn't take it like Josh was, broad brushing, the IFB as a whole but instead pointing out the crowd that Ryan has listed.
I disagree. Those guys are small potatoes and don't define the full spectrum of IFB's. He may use their extremes as illustrations, but he is certainly referring to Dr. Hyles and HAC as well.
I think he was (referring to HAC) as well.
If not, he should have been. IMO, of course.
Bruh said:Tarheel Baptist said:cpizzle said:Bruh said:cpizzle said:Those who read my reply on the New IFBs may be surprised to know that I agree with nearly everything this article says. Primarily because he singles out the "worst of the worst" and doesn't pretend that all Old Time Religion pastors are in agreement with the Bob Gray crowd. Keep in mind, despite the fact that the group mentioned love Dr. Hyles, they hate HAC and have long thought it was too liberal. I have known many TBC graduates who thought I was a compromiser for going to Hyles-Anderson
The problems that I have with the IFB movement are personified and amplified with the men listed. They give most of us a very bad name. Are we partially to blame for identifying with them or by not calling them out...probably. But I don't criticize them any more than I criticize the new IB's. They are a too far right while the IB's are a little too far left.
When I read Josh's blog post this is the crowd (the names Ryan Hayden listed) that came to my mind.
I didn't take it like Josh was, broad brushing, the IFB as a whole but instead pointing out the crowd that Ryan has listed.
I disagree. Those guys are small potatoes and don't define the full spectrum of IFB's. He may use their extremes as illustrations, but he is certainly referring to Dr. Hyles and HAC as well.
I think he was (referring to HAC) as well.
If not, he should have been. IMO, of course.
Exactly right! He was throwing Hyles ppl in there. Isn't he the root?
