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[Smellin Coffee]

I used to believe as you that characterization for "the Evangelical church" is also a result of the human condition. Evangelicals don't universally "reject it" as they are known to harbor and defend pedophiles.. The proof is in the political candidates of choice: Trump, Moore, etc.

Now you believe a hasty generalization.

Yes. Based on their politics and voting record as well as my experience living the last 50 years in Fundy-gelicalism. I think I've had plenty of time to make the generalization "hasty".

 

[FSSL]

You have equated all Evangelicals with Hyles and friends.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

You have equated all Evangelicals with Hyles and friends.

At the core, they are both the same. Same ideology, same base theology, same patriarchal bias, same political basis.

Evangelicalism is nothing more than Fundamentalism with skinny jeans and coffee shops. Both are rotted at the core.

 

[FSSL]

I see that you really have not moved from the IFBXr thought process.

Overgeneralize your opponent
Mock your opponent
Convince yourself that you are the only right position

You have merely adopted a new label for yourself.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

I see that you really have not moved from the IFBXr thought process.

Overgeneralize your opponent
Mock your opponent
Convince yourself that you are the only right position

You have merely adopted a new label for yourself.

Who knows?

Funny how Franken's name gets ripped on this forum for his abusive behavior (and rightfully so) yet nary a peep about Porter. The numbers don't lie in either the vote count nor the opinion forums. Evangelicals endure and even support abusers when they toe the party line. And that line is primarily about abortion, reduction of rights of LGBT and ridding the country of dark-skinned folks, even at the expense of ripping their families apart, so abusers can be not only tolerated, but beloved and supported.

We are seeing that "overgeneralization" every day, even on this forum.

 

[FSSL]

There have been so many ?11th hour? accusations by people who have claimed abuse that happened decades ago.

Why are we expected to believe these accusations? Democrats have weaponized the ?me too? junk

Democrats can be right in the middle of their sexual abuses and continue their Presidency.

So, ?no.? Two different things.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

There have been so many ?11th hour? accusations by people who have claimed abuse that happened decades ago.

Why are we expected to believe these accusations? Democrats have weaponized the ?me too? junk

So because time passes, it means it never happened? Do you really believe each and every sexual assault gets reported the same day it happens? Do some reading. Please.

Kirsten Gillibrand has called for due process for Trump vs. his accusers with a congressional hearing. Will he allow it?

Democrats can be right in the middle of their sexual abuses and continue their Presidency.

So, ?no.? Two different things.

Clinton's affair was consensual. Trump admitted to being a sexual predator and has several victims come forward to confirm his confession. Porter and Wynn have multiple victims. Again, Clinton's situation was consensual, none of these others were.

Franken, he should not only have resigned (which he did), he should also be prosecuted. If Franken were to run against Trump, I would not vote for him either.

So you continue to prove that predatory behavior is simply another form of consensuality. You are suggesting these women were/are complicit in their abuse. This is the Evangelical stance. This is the Republican stance. This is the misogynistic stance.

Thank you for continuing proof of my point, post-after-post.

 

[FSSL]

Clinton's affair was consensual.

... and there we have it.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

There have been so many ?11th hour? accusations by people who have claimed abuse that happened decades ago.

Why are we expected to believe these accusations? Democrats have weaponized the ?me too? junk

So because time passes, it means it never happened? Do you really believe each and every sexual assault gets reported the same day it happens? Do some reading. Please.

Kirsten Gillibrand has called for due process for Trump vs. his accusers with a congressional hearing. Will he allow it?

Democrats can be right in the middle of their sexual abuses and continue their Presidency.

So, ?no.? Two different things.

Clinton's affair was consensual. Trump admitted to being a sexual predator and has several victims come forward to confirm his confession. Porter and Wynn have multiple victims. Again, Clinton's situation was consensual, none of these others were.

Franken, he should not only have resigned (which he did), he should also be prosecuted. If Franken were to run against Trump, I would not vote for him either.

So you continue to prove that predatory behavior is simply another form of consensuality. You are suggesting these women were/are complicit in their abuse. This is the Evangelical stance. This is the Republican stance. This is the misogynistic stance.

Thank you for continuing proof of my point, post-after-post.

Once again, thou art fact challenged.
Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick would be shocked to hear that.

 

[qwerty]

Clinton's affair was consensual.

... and there we have it.

It's comical.... And a commercial for properly dosing your medications.

 

[LongGone]

  You would be hard pressed to a Dreamer that does not speak English fluently.

So you must be using the Bill Clinton definition of "hard pressed"...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/3/daca-illegals-cant-speak-english-study/

This study is bogus. You should have known that as soon as Breitbart  was mentioned.

To be eligible for  DACA you have to be under the age of 16 when entering the US. Lived continuously in the US since June 15, 2012. Have graduated from High School or have been honorably discharged from the military. Not convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor or three or more other misdemeanors.

The truth is that people who entered the US before 16 and graduated from high school it would be very unlikely that they do not speak English. 

The other falsehood is that they are living off the taxpayers dime. They are not eligible for federal benefits.

 

[qwerty]

  You would be hard pressed to a Dreamer that does not speak English fluently.

So you must be using the Bill Clinton definition of "hard pressed"...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/3/daca-illegals-cant-speak-english-study/

This study is bogus. You should have known that as soon as Breitbart  was mentioned.

To be eligible for  DACA you have to be under the age of 16 when entering the US. Lived continuously in the US since June 15, 2012. Have graduated from High School or have been honorably discharged from the military. Not convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor or three or more other misdemeanors.

The truth is that people who entered the US before 16 and graduated from high school it would be very unlikely that they do not speak English. 

The other falsehood is that they are living off the taxpayers dime. They are not eligible for federal benefits.

"The Congressional Budget Office just reported that almost one-fifth of illegals eligible for DACA would wind up taking food stamps within 10 years."

"Letting people who came to the US illegally as children remain in the country lawfully would cost taxpayers $25.9 billion over the next 10 years, the Congressional Budget Office estimates."

Sounds like someone will be paying.... But hey....

Kool-aid!!!

 

[Smellin Coffee]

There have been so many ?11th hour? accusations by people who have claimed abuse that happened decades ago.

Why are we expected to believe these accusations? Democrats have weaponized the ?me too? junk

So because time passes, it means it never happened? Do you really believe each and every sexual assault gets reported the same day it happens? Do some reading. Please.

Kirsten Gillibrand has called for due process for Trump vs. his accusers with a congressional hearing. Will he allow it?

Democrats can be right in the middle of their sexual abuses and continue their Presidency.

So, ?no.? Two different things.

Clinton's affair was consensual. Trump admitted to being a sexual predator and has several victims come forward to confirm his confession. Porter and Wynn have multiple victims. Again, Clinton's situation was consensual, none of these others were.

Franken, he should not only have resigned (which he did), he should also be prosecuted. If Franken were to run against Trump, I would not vote for him either.

So you continue to prove that predatory behavior is simply another form of consensuality. You are suggesting these women were/are complicit in their abuse. This is the Evangelical stance. This is the Republican stance. This is the misogynistic stance.

Thank you for continuing proof of my point, post-after-post.

Once again, thou art fact challenged.
Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick would be shocked to hear that.

You are correct. I was reminded of this out of the blue while lying in bed the night after I had posted it but hadn't had a chance to come in and say I was wrong. When I posted, I was thinking of the Lewinski affair. 

 

[LongGone]

  You would be hard pressed to a Dreamer that does not speak English fluently.

So you must be using the Bill Clinton definition of "hard pressed"...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/3/daca-illegals-cant-speak-english-study/

This study is bogus. You should have known that as soon as Breitbart  was mentioned.

To be eligible for  DACA you have to be under the age of 16 when entering the US. Lived continuously in the US since June 15, 2012. Have graduated from High School or have been honorably discharged from the military. Not convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor or three or more other misdemeanors.

The truth is that people who entered the US before 16 and graduated from high school it would be very unlikely that they do not speak English. 

The other falsehood is that they are living off the taxpayers dime. They are not eligible for federal benefits.

"The Congressional Budget Office just reported that almost one-fifth of illegals eligible for DACA would wind up taking food stamps within 10 years."

"Letting people who came to the US illegally as children remain in the country lawfully would cost taxpayers $25.9 billion over the next 10 years, the Congressional Budget Office estimates."

Sounds like someone will be paying.... But hey....

Kool-aid!!!

It seems funny that the CBO doesn't know that the Food Stamp Program has been called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). The name was changed October 1, 2008.

https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/snap-policy-non-citizen-eligibility

The attached link give the additional eligibility requirements for a non-citizen to be eligible for SNAP. It is safe to say that most dreamers are not going to meet these requirements.

Even if this number was possible the percentage would still be less than the 14% of the population in the US that currently receives SNAP.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

  You would be hard pressed to a Dreamer that does not speak English fluently.

So you must be using the Bill Clinton definition of "hard pressed"...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/3/daca-illegals-cant-speak-english-study/

This study is bogus. You should have known that as soon as Breitbart  was mentioned.

To be eligible for  DACA you have to be under the age of 16 when entering the US. Lived continuously in the US since June 15, 2012. Have graduated from High School or have been honorably discharged from the military. Not convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor or three or more other misdemeanors.

The truth is that people who entered the US before 16 and graduated from high school it would be very unlikely that they do not speak English. 

The other falsehood is that they are living off the taxpayers dime. They are not eligible for federal benefits.

"The Congressional Budget Office just reported that almost one-fifth of illegals eligible for DACA would wind up taking food stamps within 10 years."

"Letting people who came to the US illegally as children remain in the country lawfully would cost taxpayers $25.9 billion over the next 10 years, the Congressional Budget Office estimates."

Sounds like someone will be paying.... But hey....

Kool-aid!!!

It seems funny that the CBO doesn't know that the Food Stamp Program has been called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). The name was changed October 1, 2008.

https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/snap-policy-non-citizen-eligibility

The attached link give the additional eligibility requirements for a non-citizen to be eligible for SNAP. It is safe to say that most dreamers are not going to meet these requirements.

Even if this number was possible the percentage would still be less than the 14% of the population in the US that currently receives SNAP.

Yet no mention of concern with whites who use SNAP and other government assistance programs.

 

[qwerty]

Yet no mention of concern with whites who use SNAP and other government assistance programs.

What!!!????  You mean white people use the most food stamps?  What a surprise.


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