Final Canonization

[Makahiya2028]

The Lord persevered his words unto all generations.

When the Lord gave scripture to O.T. Jews, he gave it to them in their language.
When the Lord gave scripture to N.T. Christians, he gave it to them
in the language of the day. Then the Lord gave nations Holy Bibles
in their language. Finally, the Lord gave the entire world Holy Bibles
in the universal language, which was translated into languages
throughout the world.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most translated bible of all time.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most translated book of all time.



Predestination, inspiration and providence continued

throughout canonization and publication of scripture.

While the entire line of scripture are records, the outstanding record of scripture
and the scripture of final authority is the published text and form
of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible first edition.

All KJV Bibles are editions of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible first edition.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, distributed and read bible of all time.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, distributed and read book of all time.



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[Izdaari]

Nope. The KJV was state of the art in 1611, but biblical scholarship has improved since then, later and better manuscripts have been discovered, and the English language has evolved. The KJV is no longer the best translation (if it ever was, the 1599 Geneva has as good a claim), but is barely even adequate now, and that only for English majors and those who grew up with it.

 

[Makahiya2028]

99% of the 5,500+ existing N.T. manuscripts support the readings

of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible.


The N.T. manuscripts of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible

predate the existing 45 Alexandrian manuscripts

and the reconstructed Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus.


Over seven years 47 of history’s greatest scholars prayerfully translated

the Authorized King James Holy Bible from the majority manuscripts,

Wycliffe Bible, Erasmus N.T., Luther Bible, Colinaeus N.T.,

Stephanus N.T., Tyndale Bible, Coverdale Bible, Great Bible,

Geneva Bible, Bishop Bible and Beza N.T.



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[FSSL]

Nope. The KJV was state of the art in 1611, but biblical scholarship has improved since then, later and better manuscripts have been discovered, and the English language has evolved. The KJV is no longer the best translation (if it ever was, the 1599 Geneva has as good a claim), but is barely even adequate now, and that only for English majors and those who grew up with it.

I guess Mikayayada doesn't like to engage his opponent. Another KJVO that wants to turn FF into his own personal blog without interaction.

 

[FSSL]

99% of the 5,500+ existing N.T. manuscripts support the readings of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible.

99% is not good enough. If you claim that the AV1611 has authority because of a majority of manuscript support, then that majority had better be 100%. If not, then you have either...

1) man tampering with the mss
2) God unable to keep that last 1%
3) a silly man-made myth that cannot account for the fact that the KJV, while good for its time, has been replaced by up to date translations.

The N.T. manuscripts of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible predate the existing 45 Alexandrian manuscripts

... but you already said that the KJV is based on 99% of the majority of mss. Did you know that a majority of the mss come AFTER the Alexandrian mss?

Over seven years 47 of history’s greatest scholars prayerfully translated...

The KJV translators were great for their time, but they did not translate the Geneva, Wycliffe or Tyndale. They certainly did not translate Beza, Stephanus or Erasmus (they are Greek).

You know some jargon and some names of pre1611 Bibles. Your posts are like scrambled eggs of words bring dropped here and there for effect.

 

[Mathew Ward]

I think the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts are the most translated of all time.

 

[Makahiya2028]

Nope. The KJV was state of the art in 1611, but biblical scholarship has improved since then, later and better manuscripts have been discovered, and the English language has evolved. The KJV is no longer the best translation (if it ever was, the 1599 Geneva has as good a claim), but is barely even adequate now, and that only for English majors and those who grew up with it.

I guess Mikayayada doesn't like to engage his opponent. Another KJVO that wants to turn FF into his own personal blog without interaction.

I am not a KJV Only and I am not an Original Only .

All scripture is given by inspiration of God .

 

[Makahiya2028]

I think the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts are the most translated of all time.

Yes

The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, translated and read book of all time .

 

[Makahiya2028]

I hope we can exchange ideas and gain a greater understanding

of bible canonization and strengthen our position that the scriptures

are the final authority.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I think the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts are the most translated of all time.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, translated and read book of all time .

Nonsense. The word "Bible" means nothing more than a "collection" of writings. In its fundamentalist form, the word "book" means nothing more than "written record". The first mention of the word "book" in the Scriptures is found in the Genesis 5:1

The "Scriptures" have existed in various forms for thousands of years and have been read by countless people before the KJV ever came into existence.

Also, the phrase "most read" is somewhat deceptive. There have been MANY.... KJV printed. However, the argument could be made that just because something is printed, doesn't mean its been read. It has been my experience that most KJV advocates really know very little about the very subject they promote. They "latch on" to the issue like "mites" on the skin of a mange infested dog. They're just "joining the party".

 

[praise_yeshua]

I hope we can exchange ideas and gain a greater understanding of bible canonization

and strengthen our position that the scriptures are the final authority.

That's a good perspective to have. I hope this holds true at the end of the discussion....


Just why would you include the "KJV" in your list of "original only" beliefs? The KJV isn't an "original" of much of anything.

 

[Makahiya2028]

Yes, I sincerely want to discuss this topic, not to doubtful disputation.

 

[Makahiya2028]

I hope we can exchange ideas and gain a greater understanding of bible canonization

and strengthen our position that the scriptures are the final authority.

That's a good perspective to have. I hope this holds true at the end of the discussion....


Just why would you include the "KJV" in your list of "original only" beliefs? The KJV isn't an "original" of much of anything.

I am not a KJV Only and I am not an Original Manuscripts Only .


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[praise_yeshua]

I hope we can exchange ideas and gain a greater understanding of bible canonization

and strengthen our position that the scriptures are the final authority.

That's a good perspective to have. I hope this holds true at the end of the discussion....


Just why would you include the "KJV" in your list of "original only" beliefs? The KJV isn't an "original" of much of anything.

I am not a KJV Only and I am not an Original Manuscripts Only .


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Please explain your affinity for the KJV?

 

[Makahiya2028]

Many of the new translations are corrupt, right ?

 

[subllibrm]

KJVO exegesis:

Wine used in a positive context = juice!

Wine used in a negative context = demon rum!

 

[praise_yeshua]

Many of the new translations are corrupt, right ?

Nope. Who says they are? Some are better than others. All of them could be better...... including the KJV.

 

[Mathew Ward]

I think the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts are the most translated of all time.

Yes

The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, translated and read book of all time .

Wycliffe just finished celebrating about a week ago translating the Bible into 27 different language groups. I'm sure they used the Greek and Hebrew and not the KJV for their translations.

 

[Makahiya2028]

I've conferenced with KJV Only Christians and was able to explain

that all scripture is given by inspiration of God .


Also, I have conferenced with Original Manuscripts Only Christians

and was able to explain that issue .

 

[praise_yeshua]

I've conferenced with KJV Only Christians and was able to explain

that all scripture is given by inspiration of God .


Also, I have conferenced with Original Manuscripts Only Christians

and was able to explain that issue .

Well... begin explaining. To this point..... you haven't been very forth coming about your beliefs.