Final Canonization

[Smellin Coffee]

Seriously, I'm just asking for help with this issue, sincerely.


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"Asking" generally means a presenting a question. Need one of these at the end of a sentence...

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[Makahiya2028]

Seriously, I'm just asking for help with this issue, sincerely.

"Asking" generally means a presenting a question. Need one of these at the end of a sentence...

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What is a good answer to the Sola Ecclesia groups ?


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[Smellin Coffee]

Seriously, I'm just asking for help with this issue, sincerely.

"Asking" generally means a presenting a question. Need one of these at the end of a sentence...

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What is a good answer to the Sola Ecclesia groups ?


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Now you've got the hang of it.

 

[Mathew Ward]

As the wandering Technomad admin, currently residing in a van by the river, in the deep South, your support of my support of my moderating colleague has been noted and appreciated.

All I know is down by the river...I took a little walk

 

[praise_yeshua]

Seriously, I'm just asking for help with this issue, sincerely.

"Asking" generally means a presenting a question. Need one of these at the end of a sentence...

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What is a good answer to the Sola Ecclesia groups ?


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Well. You will not find this in the KJV but Matthew 28:18 pretty much settles it.

Mat 28:18  And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

 

[Bruh]

Just a guess: Are you calling yourself "Makahiya2028" in honour of the 2027 previous forums that have probably booted you by now?

We have met before, and in case you are under the impression that people have forgotten your previous habits of posting repetitive nonsense and avoiding answering direct questions about your alleged academic credentials or your so-called theories, let me reassure you, I have not. As soon as I saw your name, you went on probation.

Consider yourself warned. We don't take kindly to spammers and other net.abusers.

As a <clearing throat> Senior Member myself, Makahiya2028 you better git it right kid or your gone. Get it, got it, good!!  BOY!! 

 

[Izdaari]

I've conferenced with KJV Only Christians and was able to explain

that all scripture is given by inspiration of God .


Also, I have conferenced with Original Manuscripts Only Christians

and was able to explain that issue .

Well... begin explaining. To this point..... you haven't been very forth coming about your beliefs.

Sir, I posted a very precise statement in my opening post.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:


You cannot honestly state you have scripture if you believe
only the original manuscripts were given by inspiration of God.
There are no original manuscripts.


You cannot honestly say "the bible" or "all bibles" 
are given by inspiration of God.

There are over 400 (Christian, Catholic, Cult) Hebrew, Greek, Syrian, Latin,
German, English, etc. bibles which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.


You cannot honestly say "the N.T. Greek Text" or "all N.T. Greek Texts"
are given by inspiration of God.

There are over 24 reconstructed (Christian, Catholic, Cult) N.T. Greek Texts
which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.

And you cannot honestly say that Paul had in mind additional writings to the "inspired" canon than what had already been written in his letter to Timothy.

Nor can I honestly say that Paul wrote that letter.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I've conferenced with KJV Only Christians and was able to explain

that all scripture is given by inspiration of God .


Also, I have conferenced with Original Manuscripts Only Christians

and was able to explain that issue .

Well... begin explaining. To this point..... you haven't been very forth coming about your beliefs.

Sir, I posted a very precise statement in my opening post.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:


You cannot honestly state you have scripture if you believe
only the original manuscripts were given by inspiration of God.
There are no original manuscripts.


You cannot honestly say "the bible" or "all bibles" 
are given by inspiration of God.

There are over 400 (Christian, Catholic, Cult) Hebrew, Greek, Syrian, Latin,
German, English, etc. bibles which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.


You cannot honestly say "the N.T. Greek Text" or "all N.T. Greek Texts"
are given by inspiration of God.

There are over 24 reconstructed (Christian, Catholic, Cult) N.T. Greek Texts
which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.

And you cannot honestly say that Paul had in mind additional writings to the "inspired" canon than what had already been written in his letter to Timothy.

Nor can I honestly that Paul wrote that letter.

Which one?

I agree that Paul wasn't trying to "add" to the Scriptures. What he had..... was good enough for him and his audience. This doesn't mean that God wasn't using Paul to add to the canon. Paul was a humble man. Not unlike some we know...

 

[Izdaari]

I can't honestly say that Paul wrote I Timothy or II Timothy. Though you may laugh when I cite Borg and Crossan.  :-*

 

[Makahiya2028]

Just a guess: Are you calling yourself "Makahiya2028" in honour of the 2027 previous forums that have probably booted you by now?

We have met before, and in case you are under the impression that people have forgotten your previous habits of posting repetitive nonsense and avoiding answering direct questions about your alleged academic credentials or your so-called theories, let me reassure you, I have not. As soon as I saw your name, you went on probation.

Consider yourself warned. We don't take kindly to spammers and other net.abusers.

As a <clearing throat> Senior Member myself, Makahiya2028 you better git it right kid or your gone. Get it, got it, good!!  BOY!!

Yes Sir, I'm though posting my thoughts.

I look forward to reading and thinking about the thoughts throughout FFF !

Sincere Thanks


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[subllibrm]

Seriously, I'm just asking for help with this issue, sincerely.

"Asking" generally means a presenting a question. Need one of these at the end of a sentence...

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What is a good answer to the Sola Ecclesia groups ?


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Tell them to get over themselves.

 

[Bruh]

Just a guess: Are you calling yourself "Makahiya2028" in honour of the 2027 previous forums that have probably booted you by now?

We have met before, and in case you are under the impression that people have forgotten your previous habits of posting repetitive nonsense and avoiding answering direct questions about your alleged academic credentials or your so-called theories, let me reassure you, I have not. As soon as I saw your name, you went on probation.

Consider yourself warned. We don't take kindly to spammers and other net.abusers.

As a <clearing throat> Senior Member myself, Makahiya2028 you better git it right kid or your gone. Get it, got it, good!!  BOY!!

Yes Sir, I'm though posting my thoughts.

I look forward to reading and thinking about the thoughts throughout FFF !

Sincere Thanks


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Do you think this is some kind of a game?

 

[Ransom]

Please gentlemen, I said I think the purified text theory answers the questions of bible canonization and the record theory answers the questions of final canonization.

What are the "purified text theory" and the "record theory"?

Can you give a straight answer to that question yet? You gave everyone the runaround two years ago.

I completed graduate studies at both Catholic and Baptist Seminaries.

What schools?

What degrees did you earn from each?

What was the topic(s) of your dissertation(s)? What title? What library houses them if anyone wished to read them?

Can you answer those question now? You couldn't two years ago. That struck me as funny, as if anyone would be able to tell us what schools you attended, it would be you.

Seriously, I'm just asking for help with this issue, sincerely.

No, you are not. You never give straight answers to any question, and dance around by continually referring back to the same half-dozen or so repetitious phrases. And when you are pressed on these issues, you retreat into merely quoting Bible verses.

You used to claim to have an Ed.D. Big deal. I have a BA, I can write better than you, and I don't think anyone on this forum has any difficulty pinning down what I believe. Figuring out what you are all about is like nailing jello to the wall.

I sincerely doubt you are trying to get help. Rather, I think you are here to spread frustration. It's not even really possible to call you a KJV evangelist, since you can't even articulate clearly what you believe.

 

[Ransom]

What is a good answer to the Sola Ecclesia groups ?

What question are they asking?

Hello! Do you even know how English works?

 

[bgwilkinson]

Seriously, I'm just asking for help with this issue, sincerely.

"Asking" generally means a presenting a question. Need one of these at the end of a sentence...

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What is a good answer to the Sola Ecclesia groups ?


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Makahiya2028, why do you bring up Sola Ecclesia (called out assembly alone)?

Were we not discussing Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone)?

Are you sure you have any grasp of anything you have written?

You seem to do random cut and paste from various KJVO sites.

Are you not a native English speaker?

 

[rsc2a]

This is the first time I have ever heard the term Sola Ecclessia.

 

[T-Bone]

This is the first time I have ever heard the term Sola Ecclessia.

Me too!

 

[bgwilkinson]

Seriously, I'm just asking for help with this issue, sincerely.

"Asking" generally means a presenting a question. Need one of these at the end of a sentence...

?

What is a good answer to the Sola Ecclesia groups ?


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Makahiya2028, why do you bring up Sola Ecclesia (called out assembly alone)?

Were we not discussing Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone)?

Are you sure you have any grasp of anything you have written?

You seem to do random cut and paste from various KJVO sites.

Are you not a native English speaker?

Are you referring to the Catholic Church as the sole authority?

Maybe the Final Canonization as defined by the Catholic Church at the Council of Trent?

If that is that to which the OP was referring I believe I understand your game.

However it is not conducive to a profitable and edifying discussion. 

As a convinced Immersionist I am diametrically opposed to Episcopal Polity. 

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

Purified Text Theory

The words of the NIV Holy Bible are divinely transmitted,                                                             
(infallible, infinite, eternal) inspired, preserved, canonized and purified.

Psalms 12:6  The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

1.  O.T. Hebrew Original Autographs  1500 B.C. - 389 B.C.

2.  O.T. Aramaic Original Autographs, Daniel 2:4 - 7:28  607 B.C.,

3.  N.T. Koine Greek Original Autographs  40 A.D. - 90 A.D.

4.  Old Syrian Texts  100 A.D. - 200 A.D.

5.  Old Latin Texts  100 A.D. - 200 A.D.

6.  Reformation English Texts  1382 A.D. - 1611 A.D.

7.  NIV 1978. Revised in 1984 and in 2011.

See?  I can post a series of 7 steps, too. 

 

[bgwilkinson]

Purified Text Theory

The words of the NIV Holy Bible are divinely transmitted,                                                             
(infallible, infinite, eternal) inspired, preserved, canonized and purified.

Psalms 12:6  The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

1.  O.T. Hebrew Original Autographs  1500 B.C. - 389 B.C.

2.  O.T. Aramaic Original Autographs, Daniel 2:4 - 7:28  607 B.C.,

3.  N.T. Koine Greek Original Autographs  40 A.D. - 90 A.D.

4.  Old Syrian Texts  100 A.D. - 200 A.D.

5.  Old Latin Texts  100 A.D. - 200 A.D.

6.  Reformation English Texts  1382 A.D. - 1611 A.D.

7.  NIV 1978. Revised in 1984 and in 2011.

See?  I can post a series of 7 steps, too.

Well of course NIVO is as authentic as KJVO, and just as logical.