George Orwell on "separation"

Recovering IFB said:
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This pm was sent by Recovering IFB...

You ever bring up my my personal family, who is deceased into these conversations again, and I will personally insult that wh*re you call a wife in front of everybody here, you understand?

[Removed.  There was no need to make private offensive language public. - Scott]
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The asterisks were my edit.

FFF folk, we have people on here that champion the doctrines of grace, but advocate watching filthy movies and show the fruit of the flesh by posting stuff like the above.  Somebody needs to reign these people in, and pray for them, seriously.
 
And yet you want to bring up my deceased family members in a flippant way? Your lucky it's a online forum and not face to face
 
Recovering IFB said:
And yet you want to bring up my deceased family members in a flippant way? Your lucky it's a online forum and not face to face
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I don't take to threats real good, but having said that, I am sorry for causing you offense regarding your deceased mother.  It was merely an expression equivalent to the youtube vid I posted earlier.  You do have a filthy mouth and unbridled temper.  But again, I meant no harm regarding your mother and apologize.
 
aleshanee said:
ALAYMAN said:
In fact, whether you believe it or not, I am a very sincere straight-shooting person.  I meant my apology regarding misunderstanding what I thought you were accusing me of, regardless of how you interpolate other statements.  The answer to Web, who is about the most disingenuous poster on the FFF other than rsc2a, was in fact truth as well, and those two statements (what I misunderstood you to be insinuating, and what she asked) don't need to be tied together.  That is mere speculation on your part.  I apologized, but you continued in different ways to dig your heels in because of how you view my support of Tarheel.  I don't know what your beef is with him, but I don't use guilt by association tactics with you.  Anyhoo, I ain't wastin' no more ink/type on it.  I said I was sorry for misunderstanding you and meant it, and if you want to ignore that or disbelieve it then that says more about you than me.
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you told us all we needed to know about you when you first joined this forum.....
it was in the title of your thread........

http://www.fundamentalforums.org/welcome-to-fundamentalforums-org/is-this-the-misogynists-forum/msg1460/#msg1460

then later you admitted your initial purpose for coming here was to stir pots and play games.... but told us you had changed and was here more for fellowship......

http://www.fundamentalforums.org/the-fighting-forum/whats-your-agenda-here/

but then... this week....  you talk as if fighting... stirring up pots and playing games is what this forum is all about and anyone who doesn;t understand that.... (meaning me).... is either not an adult or obviously didn;t read the signs on the door........ and you say as if it you are talking about somebody who just got here yesterday ......not somebody who has been here 12 years..... ......  you said it not as a friend... but like a junior high schooler mocking a retard............ .........


so what happened?......... did the new alayman backslide and revert back to the old alayman who came here to mock women and play games? ..... ... or did the two combine into some kind of double minded alayman that changes his motive and agenda from post to post and thread to thread.... depended on who he wants to trash.... and who he wants to complain about when they start trashing him?......... ....... .. why should any of us trust or believe anything you say anymore?........
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Show respect and respectful dialogue and that's what you will receive.  Start the merry-go-round and I'm game.  You chose the latter because you were offended about the topic. 
 
[quote author=ALAYMAN]Show respect and respectful dialogue and that's what you will receive.  Start the merry-go-round and I'm game.  You chose the latter because you were offended about the topic. [/quote]

...often give no room for personal convictions that may differ from their own viewpoint...often quick to judge, to criticize, and to give an opinion where not is asked for. Issues that should be minor may rise to a level where anyone who takes another position becomes the enemy...
 
Recovering IFB said:
And yet you want to bring up my deceased family members in a flippant way? Your lucky it's a online forum and not face to face
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Recovering IFB has been banned. A complete over reaction to a common expression which developed into threats and language deemed offensive by even the secular world.

Threats and cursing are not tolerated.
 
ALAYMAN said:
The asterisks were my edit.
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Nonetheless. The message and the offense was private. There was no need to make it public. The rest of us don't need to be offended on your behalf. It was sufficient that you reported the abuse.
 
rsc2a said:
[quote author=ALAYMAN]Show respect and respectful dialogue and that's what you will receive.  Start the merry-go-round and I'm game.  You chose the latter because you were offended about the topic.
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...often give no room for personal convictions that may differ from their own viewpoint...often quick to judge, to criticize, and to give an opinion where not is asked for. Issues that should be minor may rise to a level where anyone who takes another position becomes the enemy...
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She's not an enemy, even though she has taken the hostile witness route of late. 

But let's analyze that quote you are applying to me.  Am I being criticized ("Pharisee"), am I being judged ("hypodermic"), etc, etc, etc.  When you see things from only your own perspective I suppose you might come away making sense of that quote and applying it to suppressed soul liberty, but when the facts are laid bare, you are found wanting.
 
Ransom said:
ALAYMAN said:
The asterisks were my edit.
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Nonetheless. The message and the offense was private. There was no need to make it public. The rest of us don't need to be offended on your behalf. It was sufficient that you reported the abuse.
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If you say so.

The dude is a half a bubble off, and others should know how he rolls IMHO, especially since he is now threatening physical violence.
 
Please read this: Privacy concern
http://www.fundamentalforums.org/index.php?topic=7477
 
ALAYMAN said:
rsc2a said:
[quote author=ALAYMAN]Show respect and respectful dialogue and that's what you will receive.  Start the merry-go-round and I'm game.  You chose the latter because you were offended about the topic.
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...often give no room for personal convictions that may differ from their own viewpoint...often quick to judge, to criticize, and to give an opinion where not is asked for. Issues that should be minor may rise to a level where anyone who takes another position becomes the enemy...
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She's not an enemy, even though she has taken the hostile witness route of late.  [/quote]

Odd. She feels quite strongly that you are attacking her...notably after you attacked her.

But let's analyze that quote you are applying to me.  Am I being criticized ("Pharisee"), am I being judged ("hypodermic"), etc, etc, etc.  When you see things from only your own perspective I suppose you might come away making sense of that quote and applying it to suppressed soul liberty, but when the facts are laid bare, you are found wanting.
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Yes you are being criticized, judged, etc etc... Now let's look at why. Could it be perhaps because you are so hung on up standards that you judge the spirituality of others by them? After all, how often have you criticized others for music choice, worship style, clothing choice, food/drink/consumption choice....?

Here is what I have discovered...by and large, the people you derogatorily call "free-birds" could care less what your personal standards and measures of holiness are. In fact, they might even encourage you to have very high personal standards. (*raises hand*) Where it becomes a huge problem is where you think those standards should be applied corporately...and worse yet, look down on others for not holding to them. Here is the difference: the "freebirds" believe in soul liberty; you parrot the idea of soul liberty while looking down on others for failing to live up to your extra-Biblical standards.

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations? ?Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch? (referring to things that all perish as they are used)?according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.
 
FSSL said:
Please read this: Privacy concern
http://www.fundamentalforums.org/index.php?topic=7477
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Okay.


I don't think that's always ethically right, but it prolly covers you legally the best way, so okie-dokie.  As I've said, your house your rules.
 
Perhaps Jesus needs to go back and apologize to the Pharisees for calling them Pharisees, hypocrites, liars, and whitewashed tombs.  It wasn't very Christian of him to do that. 

Or maybe these aren't attacks -- they're descriptions?  When someone commits murder, it's not a personal attack to call him a murderer.  It's just tellin' it like it is.

Though they may deny it, the people I've called Pharisees, hypocrites, liars and whitewashed tombs (or any subset of those) act like Pharisees, lie, show blatant hypocrisy, and are, quite frankly, whitewashed tombs.  If I called them "poopy heads" that would be an insult or an attack.  If I call them what they are, I'm just calling them what they are.

I don't want to speak for aleshanee, but I believe she's just doing the same -- calling them what they are.
 
rsc2a said:
She's not an enemy,
Odd. She feels quite strongly that you are attacking her...notably after you attacked her.
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"Attacked" is loaded language.  She got offended because she equated the Proverbs passage with somebody calling her that name, then the heat started flowing.  But that was not what Tarheel, nor myself was saying, and I explained that, but the heat still flowed.  At every turn where an attempt to moderate the perceived offenses was made there was just a further digging in.  Don't make it out to be so one-sided.  It clouds your partiality/credibility.

Yes you are being criticized, judged, etc etc... Now let's look at why. Could it be perhaps because you are so hung on up standards that you judge the spirituality of others by them? After all, how often have you criticized others for music choice, worship style, clothing choice, food/drink/consumption choice....?

Here is what I have discovered...by and large, the people you derogatorily call "free-birds" could care less what your personal standards and measures of holiness are. In fact, they might even encourage you to have very high personal standards. (*raises hand*) Where it becomes a huge problem is where you think those standards should be applied corporately...and worse yet, look down on others for not holding to them. Here is the difference: the "freebirds" believe in soul liberty; you parrot the idea of soul liberty while looking down on others for failing to live up to your extra-Biblical standards.

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations? ?Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch? (referring to things that all perish as they are used)?according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.
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Lots of allegations with very few facts.  I don't think I'm better than anybody on this forum.  That's your projection onto me, not factual.  As far as my effort to yank freebird chains, guilty at times, but it goes both ways, so cest la vie. I don't care whether you think I am a Pharisee or not, particularly if that label comes due to calling out professing Christians who post nudie pics and advocate watching filthy films.
 
aleshanee said:
you hypocritical liar..... when have you ever shown me or anyone else respect in a disagreement over an issue that touched your "sensibilities........ 
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If I showed you the times I've used restraint you would refuse to acknowledge it, because your mind is made up.  No sense in letting facts getting in the way of a good Baptist skewering.
 
ALAYMAN said:
rsc2a said:
[quote author=ALAYMAN]Show respect and respectful dialogue and that's what you will receive.  Start the merry-go-round and I'm game.  You chose the latter because you were offended about the topic.
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...often give no room for personal convictions that may differ from their own viewpoint...often quick to judge, to criticize, and to give an opinion where not is asked for. Issues that should be minor may rise to a level where anyone who takes another position becomes the enemy...
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She's not an enemy, even though she has taken the hostile witness route of late. 

But let's analyze that quote you are applying to me.  Am I being criticized ("Pharisee"), am I being judged ("hypodermic"), etc, etc, etc.  When you see things from only your own perspective I suppose you might come away making sense of that quote and applying it to suppressed soul liberty, but when the facts are laid bare, you are found wanting.
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You're over reacting. I haven't read everything between you two but I've seen enough to know you're being EXTREMELY overbearing and offensive without any thoughts to what that might produce in any good person like her.
 
praise_yeshua said:
You're over reacting. I haven't read everything between you two but I've seen enough to know you're being EXTREMELY overbearing and offensive without any thoughts to what that might produce in any good person like her.
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I'm being offensive? lol

In this thread ALONE she's called me a liar, Pharisee, hypocrite, and misogynist.  Try to find anything close to provocative that I've said to deserve that.  It ain't there, except in her creative imagination and over-sensitivity to the topic under discussion.

I agree with you that she is a good person, and a respectable forum member, but the vitriol that is being hurled in this latest fiasco is one-sided, all because of an unintended perceived slight regarding attire that made Catherine Bach an international sex symbol.
 
This place was never intended to be taken so seriously. IMO at least.
You should expect disagreement, sarcasm and conflict...that is what this place has always been about no matter the owner or moderators.

The attitude that was once commonplace here was to take things less seriously or personally...with a grain of salt...not giving a rat's hiney*...not to give a rip what others may say or believe as long as you could voice your differing view.

Every person here has different opinions beliefs, practices and personalities. And they are on display daily, which was/is/should be a part of the beauty of the place.

Each of us have problems, trials and issues that pale in comparison with the drivel that is discussed here. We need to recalibrate our perspectives....just my opinion, but I am free to voice such here.

Or it used to be so.... :)



* I changed behind to hiney. I could have used patooty. It means, Not to care.
 
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