Have I mentioned that liberalism is idiotic?

[Tarheel Baptist]

So, stopping a 30 year old man who 'self identifies as a woman' (you can't make this stuff up) from using the ladies rest room is discrimination? Do you want your daughter sharing the same rest room with a biological man who 'self identifies' as a woman?

First of all, there are alternatives:

Second, Republicans, as a foundational principle, consistently argue for the rights of local elected leaders to govern themselves. But when it came to Charlotte doing just that, they grabbed the controls from the locals and railroaded the decision within a half day, not giving the opportunity for debate or potential protest.

Third, North Carolina now has no legal protections to prohibit businesses from refusing to serve whoever they want to refuse, gay people and potentially people of another ethnicity. Any privately owned business is now allowed to refuse service to someone because of his/her sexual orientation.
This law has stripped LGBT people of the rights enjoyed by those of us who aren't.

FWIW, my comfort level isn't at issue here. I would be uncomfortable for my kids on a motorcycle but I certainly don't believe cycles should be outlawed.

I'll take that as a YES.
And, that's a crock...it isn't about being served by a business.
Liberal idiocy is indeed idiocy, no matter the drivel used trying to justify it.
Fortunately, it is recognized by most as drivel...and idiocy...perpetrated by i-dots.
And, all lives don't matter,police lives don't matter.... because if they do, it somehow diminishes black lives...
Idiocy, thy name is liberalism!

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Does being against men who 'self identify' as women being allowed to use the same rest room, at the same time, as my wife, daughters and granddaughter make me guilty of discrimination?

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Does being against men who 'self identify' as women being allowed to use the same rest room, at the same time, as my wife, daughters and granddaughter make me guilty of discrimination?

Perhaps not, but that wasn't the ruling made by NC, though it makes that prohibited as well. The law was more broad than just restroom issues (though in response to it). We in NC can now refuse to allow people of a different sexual orientation into our businesses. It has opened the door for refusing people based on their religion and skin tone. IOW, we are going backwards by allowing segregation once again but instead of it being about melanin, it is about sexual orientation.

And when it comes down to it, the Republicans once again proved they are for the bigger government control (but only when it favors them) while spouting the need for power at the local level. They railroaded through a half-day process before the public could voice opinions. Oh, and shame on the NC Democrats too, some who voted for it and the others who completely bailed.

In all honesty, if it were just the Charlotte bathroom situation, it really didn't bother me either way. But what the state GOP did was start the 'legal' slippery slope back to years of discrimination, hatred and civil division.

 

[Ransom]

IOW, we are going backwards by allowing segregation once again but instead of it being about melanin, it is about sexual orientation.

Except that skin colour and sexual orientation are not equivalent, therefore the analogy doesn't hold.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Does being against men who 'self identify' as women being allowed to use the same rest room, at the same time, as my wife, daughters and granddaughter make me guilty of discrimination?

Should this guy being allowed in the women's bathroom make you uncomfortable?

It shouldn't. This "guy" was born female. What this law is proposing is that he would be mandated to use the women's restroom.

 

[Ransom]

It shouldn't. This "guy" was born female.

In that case, he's not a guy, or a "guy."

 

[Smellin Coffee]

It shouldn't. This "guy" was born female.

In that case, he's not a guy, or a "guy."

Then (s)he should use the female bathroom. Correct? Would this make Tarheel's wife and/or daughters uncomfortable?

 

[Ransom]

Then (s)he should use the female bathroom. Correct? Would this make Tarheel's wife and/or daughters uncomfortable?

You'd have to ask Tarheel's wife and/or daughters.

I'm perfectly comfortable with a biological woman using the women's bathroom.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Here's another who by law, must use the women's restroom in NC:

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Here's another who by law, must use the women's restroom in NC:

Since you like anecdotal illustrations:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sexual-predator-jailed-after-claiming-to-be-transgender-in-order-to-assault

 

[Ransom]

Why does Smellin want all the ugly hairy women to use the men's room? I thought body-shaming was bad.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Why does Smellin want all the ugly hairy women to use the men's room? I thought body-shaming was bad.

Fortunately less than one half of one percent of the population would have to endure such shaming. But, of course liberal idiocy demands that the more than 99% of the population be accommodating to those who by technical definition practice 'perversion'.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

But, of course liberal idiocy demands that the more than 99% of the population be accommodating to those who by technical definition practice 'perversion'.

Not that it applies, but we know how Jesus taught the shepherd would leave the 99% unprotected to help the one.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

But, of course liberal idiocy demands that the more than 99% of the population be accommodating to those who by technical definition practice 'perversion'.

Not that it applies, but we know how Jesus taught the shepherd would leave the 99% unprotected to help the one.

Have straw, will grasp.
You should exchange one of those straws for a modicum of a hermeneutic. 

Back to the subject at hand:
http://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hall-maddison.htm

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

What the NC law actually contains:

http://www.ncfamily.org/cutting-media-bias-truth-hb2/

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

What the NC law actually contains:

http://www.ncfamily.org/cutting-media-bias-truth-hb2/

Separating the facts from the liberal idiocy:
http://governor.nc.gov/press-release/myths-vs-facts-what-new-york-times-huffington-post-and-other-media-outlets-arent

 

[Smellin Coffee]

But, of course liberal idiocy demands that the more than 99% of the population be accommodating to those who by technical definition practice 'perversion'.

Not that it applies, but we know how Jesus taught the shepherd would leave the 99% unprotected to help the one.

Have straw, will grasp.
You should exchange one of those straws for a modicum of a hermeneutic. 

Back to the subject at hand:
http://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hall-maddison.htm

And the right-wing pony show continues. I've said before I don't care about the bathroom issue. I really don't. Why do the right-wingers keep pointing to it? So you can marvel at the trick while ignoring what is behind the curtain. This law prohibits local municipalities from providing LGBT protections and allows businesses to refuse service based on sexual orientation.

You keep bringing "the liberals" into this. Though this may be an accurate assumption, this issue is more Libertarian in nature.

The hypocrisy of BOTH major parties know no bounds. Repbublicans claim to be for the autonomy of local governments but when it opposes their power values, they suddenly become FOR the bigger governmental power.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

You just couldn't make this liberal idiocy up.....

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/03/30/hit-broadway-show-celebrates-diversity-by-excluding-whites.html

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Obama White House censors French president saying "Islamic terrorist". At least he didn't say "all lives matter". Liberal idiocy is redundant! http://mrctv.org/blog/video-wh-censors-reference-islamist-terrorism-french-president

 

[Izdaari]

What IS this thread about?

If the point is that "modern liberalism" AKA "progressive liberalism" is idiotic, as a classical liberal (AKA libertarian) I heartily agree!

But restrooms? That NC passed a poorly thought-out law with lots of unintended consequences is not the fault of liberalism in any flavor! It's more the fault of conservatives reacting without thinking.