I am Hebrew Roots Ish....I can try to answer your questions.

[Hooper]

Whatever this has to do with vegetarianism... then I don?t get it.

It has everything to do with it. Its the starting point to Satanic ritual sacrifice. Its corruption spread to the OT scriptures and changed the truth of God into a lie. God does not want men to eat animals. The ramifications of eating animal flesh will manifest in high blood pressure, diabetes, high cholesterol and cancer. This is not what God had in mind and He is not okay with it.

 

[Twisted]

Interesting thread.  Poster uses a non-canonical book and thinks the Sermon on the Mount is Christian doctrine.

 

[FSSL]

So, you think vegetarianism prevents high blood pressure, diabetes, high cholesterol... etc? You haven?t met too many vegetarians! Some of them are sickly and deal with chronic conditions.

High protein, meat diets are encouraged by Mayo Clinic.

You cannot ignore Genesis 6 and the fact that even Jesus ate and provided meat for consumption. (Yet you do.)


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[Hooper]

Interesting thread.  Poster uses a non-canonical book and thinks the Sermon on the Mount is Christian doctrine.

I suppose you think that Matthew 28 was written to you?

Matthew 28:19-20

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

[FSSL]

Further... Colossians 2 is very clear that those who have dietary laws are legalists and not followers of the law of Christ... ?Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink?


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[Smellin Coffee]

Interesting thread.  Poster uses a non-canonical book and thinks the Sermon on the Mount is Christian doctrine.

What do you mean it is non-canonical? Doesn't that canon contain the verse "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God..."? So it must mean that canon is inspired too!

 

[Hooper]

Further... Colossians 2 is very clear that those who have dietary laws are legalists and not followers of the law of Christ... ?Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink?


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I don't recognize any of Saul's works as inspired or true for that matter.

 

[Twisted]

Interesting thread.  Poster uses a non-canonical book and thinks the Sermon on the Mount is Christian doctrine.

I suppose you think that Matthew 28 was written to you?

Matthew 28:19-20

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

No, Jesus was speaking to His disciples.

I wasn't born yet and wasn't in attendance.

 

[Hooper]

Interesting thread.  Poster uses a non-canonical book and thinks the Sermon on the Mount is Christian doctrine.

I suppose you think that Matthew 28 was written to you?

Matthew 28:19-20

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

No, Jesus was speaking to His disciples.

I wasn't born yet and wasn't in attendance.

Exactly, the same doctrine that Christ taught in Matthew chapter 5 is the same gospel He charged His true apostles to spread to all the world. In other words, there is no age of grace, no church age. Salvation has never changed nor will it.

 

[Route_70]

Interesting thread.  Poster uses a non-canonical book and thinks the Sermon on the Mount is Christian doctrine.

What do you mean it is non-canonical? Doesn't that canon contain the verse "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God..."? So it must mean that canon is inspired too!

Jude quotes from the actual Book of Enoch, the Aramaic version of which was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls:  "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints." ~~ Jude 1:14.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

I don't believe that ritual human sacrifice was Gods plan to redeem man. Christ came preaching the gospel message. So it was His life that brings salvation and not His death.

Yes! I also believe in non-violent atonement.

Proves to the folks on this forum that I really don't make up theology as I go along.

Gandhi, Elmer Fudd and Euell Theophilus Gibbons can be the patron saints of your own personal religion.
Halllleeeumalugerrrrr!

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Interesting thread.  Poster uses a non-canonical book and thinks the Sermon on the Mount is Christian doctrine.

What do you mean it is non-canonical? Doesn't that canon contain the verse "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God..."? So it must mean that canon is inspired too!

Jude quotes from the actual Book of Enoch, the Aramaic version of which was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls:  "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints." ~~ Jude 1:14.

Yeah, I know. I was just poking the bear of biblical inerrancy for the 66-book canon.

 

[Hooper]

I don't believe that ritual human sacrifice was Gods plan to redeem man. Christ came preaching the gospel message. So it was His life that brings salvation and not His death.

Yes! I also believe in non-violent atonement.

Proves to the folks on this forum that I really don't make up theology as I go along.

Gandhi, Elmer Fudd and Euell Theophilus Gibbons can be the patron saints of your own personal religion.
Halllleeeumalugerrrrr!

Easy to mock things you can not understand yet.

 

[FSSL]

Yeah, I know. I was just poking the bear of biblical inerrancy for the 66-book canon.

I bet if we were to poke the Smellin Coffee and Hooper bear, there would not be one book in the canon... except for Enoch!

 

[FSSL]

Anyone miss Christundivided yet? Lol


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[Hooper]

Yeah, I know. I was just poking the bear of biblical inerrancy for the 66-book canon.

I bet if we were to poke the Smellin Coffee and Hooper bear, there would not be one book in the canon... except for Enoch!

You can find the truth in many books. You just have to throw out the error.

 

[Twisted]

At least we have all the fruitcakes gathered in one place.

Now some don't like fruitcake, but as long as not made with booze, I can handle it.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Yeah, I know. I was just poking the bear of biblical inerrancy for the 66-book canon.

I bet if we were to poke the Smellin Coffee and Hooper bear, there would not be one book in the canon... except for Enoch!

LOL!

 

[Ransom]

God gave man dominion over the garden. He was to care for animals.

Caring for the animals is not in opposition to using them as food. Adam was to care for the plants as well (Genesis 2:15), but I wouldn't infer from that, that he wasn't supposed to eat them. Quite the opposite, in fact (v. 16).

God designed man to remain healthy on plants and our teeth show us to be herbavores.

I wouldn't put too much stock in dental anatomy. Pandas are herbivores, but have the same teeth as other, carnivorous bears.

From the book of Enoch, we see it was the giants of the fallen ones who introduced meat eating.  It was disembodied Nephelim like Moloch that demanded a human sacrifice.

The book of Enoch holds no authority for me.

I think we all agree that when a Satanist kills a cow and eats its flesh and drinks it's blood we are disgusted.

And I think we all agree that when the same Satanist goes to the Keg and orders a ribeye, we are no more disgusted with him than anyone else - because there is, of course, a moral difference to be recognized between a religious ritual and a routine dinner.

On the other hand, why is it that God accepts Abel's offering of "the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions" (Gen. 4:4), and not with Cain's offering of "the fruit of the ground" (v. 3)? Obviously, "their fat portions" implies that Abel's sheep were sacrificial.

Why does God instruct Noah to bring "seven pairs of all clean animals" on the ark (Gen. 7:2)? What is the distinction between clean and unclean animals? As we see in the Mosaic law, ceremonially clean animals were suitable for eating and for sacrifice. God was pleased with Noah's sacrifice of some of the clean animals (Gen. 8:20-21). If vegetarianism is called for, why does God explicitly permit "every moving thing that lives" (Gen. 9:3) to be food?

 

[Ransom]

Yes! I also believe in non-violent atonement.

Another good reason to believe you weren't actually atoned for.