I am Hebrew Roots Ish....I can try to answer your questions.

Ransom said:
Hooper said:
Then why do you feel you have the right to ask others questions?

"I'd like to answer questions . . ." (Hooper, 3 days ago)

If you come on this forum offering to answer questions, don't whine about being asked questions.


I'm not whining about that. I'm pointing out that you were asked one simple question that is core to your false doctrine and instead of giving the answer you act like a petulant child.
 
Hooper said:
I'm not whining about that. I'm pointing out that you were asked one simple question that is core to your false doctrine and instead of giving the answer you act like a petulant child.

That's the word:  petulant
 
Ransom said:
You'll say any foolish thing to avoid admitting that you take a cafeteria-line approach to Christianity, won't you?

But apparently only the salad bar!
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Then again, where did Jesus evangelize the lost or even teach where faith ALONE without works in his death, burial and resurrection was the ticket to the forgiveness of sins?

I contend just the opposite.

Matthew 6:15
But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Faith has no bearing. In fact, one can have previously been forgive then this act of non-forgiving others puts him back in jeopardy. Matthew 18:21-35

So unless you equate the forgiveness of sin apart from eternal life that one can have salvation and eternal life and not have their sins forgiven, works of some kind must play a part.

There are lots of Scriptures that aren't red letter that I believe which you don't.  Jesus never said anything directly about necrophilia, but I'm guessing that you don't mind using non-red letters to condemn that.
 
Hooper said:
Then why do you feel you have the right to ask others questions? Let's face it Scott, ....


ummm, am I missing something.  You call him by his first (non-forum) name?  Is there a familiarity existent here that you ought to own up to?  Are you the former FFF member who posted under Christundivided (or another poster)?
 
ALAYMAN said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Then again, where did Jesus evangelize the lost or even teach where faith ALONE without works in his death, burial and resurrection was the ticket to the forgiveness of sins?

I contend just the opposite.

Matthew 6:15
But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Faith has no bearing. In fact, one can have previously been forgive then this act of non-forgiving others puts him back in jeopardy. Matthew 18:21-35

So unless you equate the forgiveness of sin apart from eternal life that one can have salvation and eternal life and not have their sins forgiven, works of some kind must play a part.

There are lots of Scriptures that aren't red letter that I believe which you don't.  Jesus never said anything directly about necrophilia, but I'm guessing that you don't mind using non-red letters to condemn that.

But you do accept the red letters among other sources as being authoritative. So will an unforgiving person receive God?s forgiveness or not? And if you believe forgiving others is a byproduct or fruit of faith, how does the parable of the forgiven servant who lost his own forgiveness affect that faith? And if forgiving others is a result of faith, why did Jesus not address faith within the parable?
 
Hooper said:
I'm pointing out that you were asked one simple question that is core to your false doctrine and instead of giving the answer you act like a petulant child.

Have you proven it to be a simple question and have you proven something to be actually false doctrine?

Perhaps the Hebrew Roots movement to which you appeal is the one with the false or non-scriptural doctrine.

Questions do not establish nor determine truth.  A so-called simple question can actually be complex and invalid if the premises of the question are merely assumed instead of proven to be true.  Because you claim a question is simple does not mean that it actually is.  Invalid questions should not be answered.  Questions can also be answered by questions.

Perhaps demanding others answer your questions is acting somewhat like a petulant child.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
But you do accept the red letters among other sources as being authoritative. So will an unforgiving person receive God?s forgiveness or not? And if you believe forgiving others is a byproduct or fruit of faith, how does the parable of the forgiven servant who lost his own forgiveness affect that faith? And if forgiving others is a result of faith, why did Jesus not address faith within the parable?

Some things are assumed as givens.

Besides that, and I don't mind answering your question in my detail if you wish, but your question merely raises the notion of differing hermeneutics.  I am assuming, as you duly noted, an authoritative position regarding Scriptures in the evangelical mold.  And as I've already pointed out, you aren't (and proudly so).  As a result of the differing basis for our starting points of belief and authority it is easy to see why we won't agree on the binding nature of church doctrines.
 
ALAYMAN said:
Smellin Coffee said:
But you do accept the red letters among other sources as being authoritative. So will an unforgiving person receive God?s forgiveness or not? And if you believe forgiving others is a byproduct or fruit of faith, how does the parable of the forgiven servant who lost his own forgiveness affect that faith? And if forgiving others is a result of faith, why did Jesus not address faith within the parable?

Some things are assumed as givens.

Besides that, and I don't mind answering your question in my detail if you wish, but your question merely raises the notion of differing hermeneutics.  I am assuming, as you duly noted, an authoritative position regarding Scriptures in the evangelical mold.  And as I've already pointed out, you aren't (and proudly so).  As a result of the differing basis for our starting points of belief and authority it is easy to see why we won't agree on the binding nature of church doctrines.

The fundamental position on the inheransy of the scripture found only in the bible is lacking an real proof. To say that is all true because the Bible says it's all true is not a basis for accuracy. Any person could have penned in error and the same person could have penned the warning that God has preserved all His writings. At the end of the day we are individually responsible for what viewpoints we believe. We are responible for our own lives. No pastor, teacher or parent can take the blame for us. That's unless you are serverly mentally handicapped.
 
ALAYMAN said:
ummm, am I missing something.  You call him by his first (non-forum) name?  Is there a familiarity existent here that you ought to own up to?  Are you the former FFF member who posted under Christundivided (or another poster)?

Well . . . I do sign all my posts with my real name, which is not a secret. No big deal.
 
Hooper said:
ALAYMAN said:
Smellin Coffee said:
But you do accept the red letters among other sources as being authoritative. So will an unforgiving person receive God?s forgiveness or not? And if you believe forgiving others is a byproduct or fruit of faith, how does the parable of the forgiven servant who lost his own forgiveness affect that faith? And if forgiving others is a result of faith, why did Jesus not address faith within the parable?

Some things are assumed as givens.

Besides that, and I don't mind answering your question in my detail if you wish, but your question merely raises the notion of differing hermeneutics.  I am assuming, as you duly noted, an authoritative position regarding Scriptures in the evangelical mold.  And as I've already pointed out, you aren't (and proudly so).  As a result of the differing basis for our starting points of belief and authority it is easy to see why we won't agree on the binding nature of church doctrines.

The fundamental position on the inheransy of the scripture found only in the bible is lacking an real proof. To say that is all true because the Bible says it's all true is not a basis for accuracy. Any person could have penned in error and the same person could have penned the warning that God has preserved all His writings. At the end of the day we are individually responsible for what viewpoints we believe. We are responible for our own lives. No pastor, teacher or parent can take the blame for us. That's unless you are serverly mentally handicapped.
That's a heck of a vocab word there, Hoops...
You should stick to your strong suit.


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