Sherryh said:I wish the newspaper would have contacted Pastor Farris from Pinellas Park.
Sherryh said:I wish the newspaper would have contacted Pastor Farris from Pinellas Park.
I don't see how taking in a rampant adulterer and pornographer who figured strongly in the suspicious death of a child whose bones he actually broke to be a church's Sunday School Superintendent is a wonderful thing. I think it was a horrible thing and part of the culture of covering up sin and abuse in these churches. Farris billed himself as 100% for Hyles back when that fad was all the craze in this weird subset of Fundamentalism. How was that wonderful? It was idolatry. He identified his church as a Hyles church. What was so wonderful about that? He deliberately linked himself to the hotbed that produced AV Ballenger and a truckload of others. His own church secretary became a prostitute at Dave Hyles' beck and call, branding herself with DAVE'S GIRL on her thigh. Farris never took responsibility for what he had done. Then he sent Dave on his way without warning the people of the church to which Dave went, and Dave caused more destruction there. There is something remarkable about the whole story, but I think you and I define "wonderful" in very different ways.Sherryh said:Pastor Farris retired and they sold the church property. I really believe he thought he should help dh . Pastor Farris and his family are wonderful people .
Citadel of Truth said:While I believe that these acts are heinous and despicable, and I would like to see all of these predators prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, I also understand that this is not limited to the IFB churches. If these investigative reporters would look into any denomination or movement, they would find similar results, I'm sure.
I met DH at Farris' church back in the 90's and I thought it strange that he had him teaching Sunday School after all the crapola he had been involved in.AnkleBone said:I don't see how taking in a rampant adulterer and pornographer who figured strongly in the suspicious death of a child whose bones he actually broke to be a church's Sunday School Superintendent is a wonderful thing. I think it was a horrible thing and part of the culture of covering up sin and abuse in these churches. Farris billed himself as 100% for Hyles back when that fad was all the craze in this weird subset of Fundamentalism. How was that wonderful? It was idolatry. He identified his church as a Hyles church. What was so wonderful about that? He deliberately linked himself to the hotbed that produced AV Ballenger and a truckload of others. His own church secretary became a prostitute at Dave Hyles' beck and call, branding herself with DAVE'S GIRL on her thigh. Farris never took responsibility for what he had done. Then he sent Dave on his way without warning the people of the church to which Dave went, and Dave caused more destruction there. There is something remarkable about the whole story, but I think you and I define "wonderful" in very different ways.Sherryh said:Pastor Farris retired and they sold the church property. I really believe he thought he should help dh . Pastor Farris and his family are wonderful people .
Citadel of Truth said:While I believe that these acts are heinous and despicable, and I would like to see all of these predators prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, I also understand that this is not limited to the IFB churches. If these investigative reporters would look into any denomination or movement, they would find similar results, I'm sure.
Tarheel Baptist said:Citadel of Truth said:While I believe that these acts are heinous and despicable, and I would like to see all of these predators prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, I also understand that this is not limited to the IFB churches. If these investigative reporters would look into any denomination or movement, they would find similar results, I'm sure.
I?m sure you are correct.
However this is pervasive in the IFB movement.
Which doesn?t mean everyone in said movement is guilty.
But, it is so widespread it?s hard to grasp.
AnkleBone said:Now being covered by Christianity Today:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2018/december/independent-fundamentalist-baptist-church-abuse-scandal.html
Citadel of Truth said:Tarheel Baptist said:Citadel of Truth said:While I believe that these acts are heinous and despicable, and I would like to see all of these predators prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, I also understand that this is not limited to the IFB churches. If these investigative reporters would look into any denomination or movement, they would find similar results, I'm sure.
I?m sure you are correct.
However this is pervasive in the IFB movement.
Which doesn?t mean everyone in said movement is guilty.
But, it is so widespread it?s hard to grasp.
I agree, it's staggering. It makes it so that you can literally trust no one.
I'm thankful that my kids are all grown. Suffice it to say that my response would not have been the same as Wendell Evans.