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That letter to Pastor's was sent out yesterday Jun 3, 2014. It was the second letter he referenced members dying for leaving WHBCult in the past week.
TruthBearer said:That letter to Pastor's was sent out yesterday Jun 3, 2014. It was the second letter he referenced members dying for leaving WHBCult in the past week.
TruthBearer said:Ole JAV is at it again. Another letter he sent out to pastors. A excerpt from his email:
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But, on the airplane coming over, I put down the names of 187 families who left WHBC during the 30 years I pastored it, because of some "aught" they had against me. MY, OH MY, THE TRAGEDIES which are in those 187 families."
Walt said:One of the most evil things that Christians do (it seems to be especially prevalent with pastors) is to track the misfortune of the ones that left, and proclaim that they brought it on themselves by touching God's anointed.
There is NO life that hasn't been touched by sorrow and sadness - we live in a sin-soaked and cursed world with bodies that decay daily.
To say that MY problems occurred ONLY because I opposed you is the height of pride.
Controlling people through fear is one of the marks of a cult.
Aside from everything else, it makes our great God look petty as well.
JAV sounds like Job's friends, who were convinced that he had done something wrong and thus was suffering.
I feel sorry that he is seeing his family and ministry disintegrate; perhaps he is sowing what he reaped, as some have suggested.
But if Tom's sin is truly known, it is time for God's people to stand up and put him out of the church.
TruthBearer said:Walt said:One of the most evil things that Christians do (it seems to be especially prevalent with pastors) is to track the misfortune of the ones that left, and proclaim that they brought it on themselves by touching God's anointed.
There is NO life that hasn't been touched by sorrow and sadness - we live in a sin-soaked and cursed world with bodies that decay daily.
To say that MY problems occurred ONLY because I opposed you is the height of pride.
Controlling people through fear is one of the marks of a cult.
Aside from everything else, it makes our great God look petty as well.
JAV sounds like Job's friends, who were convinced that he had done something wrong and thus was suffering.
I feel sorry that he is seeing his family and ministry disintegrate; perhaps he is sowing what he reaped, as some have suggested.
But if Tom's sin is truly known, it is time for God's people to stand up and put him out of the church.
They tried but he refused to leave. That is why over half the church left. The remaining people are nothing but Vineyardites that worship the Vineyards (a false god/idol) and not the true and living God.
Walt said:TruthBearer said:Walt said:One of the most evil things that Christians do (it seems to be especially prevalent with pastors) is to track the misfortune of the ones that left, and proclaim that they brought it on themselves by touching God's anointed.
There is NO life that hasn't been touched by sorrow and sadness - we live in a sin-soaked and cursed world with bodies that decay daily.
To say that MY problems occurred ONLY because I opposed you is the height of pride.
Controlling people through fear is one of the marks of a cult.
Aside from everything else, it makes our great God look petty as well.
JAV sounds like Job's friends, who were convinced that he had done something wrong and thus was suffering.
I feel sorry that he is seeing his family and ministry disintegrate; perhaps he is sowing what he reaped, as some have suggested.
But if Tom's sin is truly known, it is time for God's people to stand up and put him out of the church.
They tried but he refused to leave. That is why over half the church left. The remaining people are nothing but Vineyardites that worship the Vineyards (a false god/idol) and not the true and living God.
Amen.
God will not suffer man to steal his glory... what's left won't last long, I think.