John 3:16

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God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son so that whoever believes in him may not be lost, but have eternal life.
 
Thoughts? Stop going to the revival services.

If this is true, the revivalist is creating semantic confusion between the Person of Christ and the organization called the Church.
 
Tim said:
What are your thoughts about this?

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Tim said:
FSSL said:
Thoughts? Stop going to the revival services.

If this is true, the revivalist is creating semantic confusion between the Person of Christ and the organization called the Church.

That is what I was pondering. I think this is an error based on his 'worshiping' an English translation - linking "the way" universally without context.

Mind sharing who it was? I'm curious.

When Jesus said "I AM THE WAY".... it had nothing to do with the Incarnation. Jesus has always been "The Way" and will always "be the Way."

He ALONE is our advocate with the Father.
 
If that is what the guy said...and I say if...then he is clearly wrong, Jesus was not referring to the church, but to Himself.  To teach the church is the way to salvation would put in the Catholic category
 
T-Bone said:
If that is what the guy said...and I say if...then he is clearly wrong, Jesus was not referring to the church, but to Himself.  To teach the church is the way to salvation would put in the Catholic category

^this^
 
Tim said:
T-Bone said:
If that is what the guy said...and I say if...then he is clearly wrong, Jesus was not referring to the church, but to Himself.  To teach the church is the way to salvation would put in the Catholic category

Apparently this was a re-used messaged from his own local Church.

http://onebaptist.org/media/IF%20WE%20ARE%20THE%20BODY/The%20Practical%20Purpose%20Of%20The%20Church%20MS2.mp3

Around the 13 minute mark he speaks about "the way"

Clear evidence of when you a have a preconceived message or theme, you must make the Scriptures says what you want...rather than letting the Scriptures say what they say!
 
Tim said:
We are currently in "revival" this week at our Church. The messages have been about the Church.

Last night John 14:6 was quoted, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

It was followed by the comment, "When Jesus went up to heaven - the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE didn't leave with him. So - where are they today?"

Using scripture he said the 'truth' was our Bible, I recollect he said the 'life' was the Holy Spirit ... and  the 'Way' was the Church. He spent more time on The Church being the Way since he was seeking to prove that since we are "the way" we must be about the business of serving in our Church.

His proof for saying "The Way" was "The Church" was basically Acts 9:4, where we read "why are you persecuting Me" compared to other parts in Acts where Paul says, "I persecuted this way unto the death", Acts 22:4

In short, persecuting Me is the same as persecuting Church and that would be the same as "the way" ...

What are your thoughts about this?

I always believed when Jesus said he was "The Way" he was referring to Himself as  the only way to be right with God. Back to the whole Lordship topic we had a few weeks ago.

I haven't read the responses, so this is probably repeated.

The "evangelist" is trying too hard to read things into what Jesus plainly said.

Jesus said plainly that HE was "the way", "the truth", and "the life".  He is the way to heaven, NOT the church.  He is "the truth" - He is God, and God cannot lie, we are told in Titus.  And He is "the life" - in Him we have life, and life eternal, which is true life.  Making these be anything else is fooling around with what Jesus plainly taught.
 
Tim said:
T-Bone said:
If that is what the guy said...and I say if...then he is clearly wrong, Jesus was not referring to the church, but to Himself.  To teach the church is the way to salvation would put in the Catholic category

Apparently this was a re-used messaged from his own local Church.

http://onebaptist.org/media/IF%20WE%20ARE%20THE%20BODY/The%20Practical%20Purpose%20Of%20The%20Church%20MS2.mp3

Around the 13 minute mark he speaks about "the way"

Listened -- Jesus replaced Himself with the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, and the Church?  Is this guy serious?  This sounds a bit Catholic.

Jesus was NOT replaced as the way, the truth, and the life.
 
The Ekklesia is the body of which Christ is the head.
Believers are living stones of the spiritual house of which Jesus is the chief cornerstone, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
All believers are a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession.
IMHO
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Tim said:
What are your thoughts about this?

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My first thought. It aids the performance and boosts visible results. Good for promotion.
It's all about the numbers.

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Maybe he was just using it as an analogy. I would hate to think that he actually believe it literally.  :-\
 
bgwilkinson said:
The Ekklesia is the body of which Christ is the head.
Believers are living stones of the spiritual house of which Jesus is the chief cornerstone, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
All believers are a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession.
IMHO

What does this have to do with the OP?

We aren't mediators.
 
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