Jury finds Trump guilty!

biscuit1953 said:
Why do you need to stick your nose into a private affair? The fact that the trial itself was a joke and the fact the DA took a misdemeanor past the statutes of limitations and then turned what he claimed to be bad paperwork into 34 felonies in order to sentence Trump to prison for a hundred years should be enough for you and everybody else to shut up and mind your own business. You are no better than the one you are condemning or anybody else. The trial was a sham and you know it. You aren't one bit in interested in justice.

I listen to Ray Comfort witnessing all the time and he always asks the question, "Have you ever told a lie in your life?" You are also guilty of lying in your past just like the rest of us. So why would I be wrong in saying, "I do not believe one word you are saying?"
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Look, I’m not judging him or Stormy but we all have opinions, it’s that simple, and this is the FFF and that’s why we’re here. Trust me when I say, I do not care if he cheated on his wife, I really don’t. But to sit here and say, I believe Trump didn’t sleep with that woman…….really??!!?? lol if Trump didn’t go into politics and this came up in the news that he slept with a porn star I highly doubt 50% of America says, no he didn’t he said he didn’t therefore I believe him.

My point is simple, no affair and they would’ve had to take a different route, that’s all. And he’s a known habitual liar which is something completely different than to have lied and at some point make it right with those involved and before God.

Have I lied? Of course. Do I blatantly lie outright daily, weekly or every month, no. That’s something total different.
 
Ransom said:
Two things might be true at once:

1. Hypothetically, the timing of the Trump trial was political and intended to discredit him as a presidential candidate.

2. Also hypothetically, nothing happened during the trial that would result in a mistrial or a successful appeal on procedural grounds.

If #1 is true, then Trump's opponents have abused the legal process for their desired outcome, which is an injustice.

If #2 is true, then at least some of the complaints from Trump's supporters are that they did not receive their desired outcome, which is also an injustice.

I tend, in my own opinion, toward #1 being true #2 being false to some extent, but I've got nothing riding on either one. Legally, I think Trump will end up being vindicated. Nonetheless, he's still a jerk and a poor pick for president.
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I agree.
 
Trump was was much better for our economy and I will be voting for him again.

The owner of the company I work for is a 100% Trump guy. It’s like a 100% Hyles person back in the day lol!!!

I believe he’s a very intelligent man but he believes Trump is a born again believer…..this is where some ppl loose me. It’s like, wait what say that again.
 
Bruh said:
Look, I’m not judging him or Stormy but we all have opinions, it’s that simple, and this is the FFF and that’s why we’re here. Trust me when I say, I do not care if he cheated on his wife, I really don’t. But to sit here and say, I believe Trump didn’t sleep with that woman…….really??!!?? lol if Trump didn’t go into politics and this came up in the news that he slept with a porn star I highly doubt 50% of America says, no he didn’t he said he didn’t therefore I believe him.

My point is simple, no affair and they would’ve had to take a different route, that’s all. And he’s a known habitual liar which is something completely different than to have lied and at some point make it right with those involved and before God.

Have I lied? Of course. Do I blatantly lie outright daily, weekly or every month, no. That’s something total different.
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James 3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

There is a difference between discussing the path of our nation and who should lead it and sitting around like a bunch of teenage girls gossiping about what so and so may have done in their personal lives. What is being done to Donald Trump by the Justice Department and the state of New York as well as other corrupt officials in other states is blatant. Donald Trump is a flawed man just like everyone else but he deserves to be treated fairly in spite of his moral failures. He was a great President who really loves his country and all you can do is giddily talk about an affair he may have had.

The Bible warns of slander which is digging into someone’s personal life in order to smear them. Look at the policies of Trump and Biden and discuss that instead of slinging mud for the sake of “fighting.”
 
Agree. Why is it necessary to believe (and repeat) what the media, Democrats and progressives say about him.

Their goal is to discredit ANYONE seeking the office of President if they are Republican.

The idea that we will lose our witness for supporting Trump is a false piety. Especially when the same repeat the accusations of the left.... False (unproven) accusations undermine the Christian witness.
 
Ransom said:
I wasn't under the impression that there was any question Trump had paid the ho off. The issue at hand was whether he did so illegally.

Maybe he didn't commit adultery himself, but he dallied with a prostitute/porn star. Perhaps I could have quoted those portions of Proverbs 5 or 7, instead, about staying away from loose women.
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I am a big fan of Trumps policies and I feel like Bidens and his libral policies are destroying our nation.

That being said, I don't think there is any question Trump has been unfaitful in his marrage and is an immoral man. Being a good president and being and just, upright moral man are are not mutually exclusive. Sadly I wish our political leaders would be moral leaders as well. Sadly he sometimes acts more like a 7th grader than the leader of the free world. Take away his phone and his ability to tweet and he would be a much better leader.
 
Bruh said:
The owner of the company I work for is a 100% Trump guy. It’s like a 100% Hyles person back in the day lol!!!

I believe he’s a very intelligent man but he believes Trump is a born again believer…..this is where some ppl loose me. It’s like, wait what say that again.
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There is an element of man worship in all of this. People who could see it with 100% Hyles, can’t see it with 100% Trump. 🫤
 
subllibrm said:
There is an element of man worship in all of this. People who could see it with 100% Hyles, can’t see it with 100% Trump. 🫤
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Since you've made it clear that Christians shouldn't be involved in politics you seem to have an obsession painting anyone who supports the former President as a man worshipper. Then you and your buddy invoke Jack Hyles to further smear Christians who do believe they have an obligation to influence the direction of the country. Go on and tell us more about how Trump is an evil man and tell us some more juicy gossip on his personal life. Practice what you preach and get off this thread and quit discussing politics.
 
FSSL said:
You never heard of people trying to extort money and then having to sign NDAs to avoid salacious rumors? Explain this...

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The truth of the matter is that threats of nuisance lawsuits are often paid off by the rich and famous. There is also an instance of a NY doorman who was paid off by Trump’s people for claiming Trump fathered an illegitimate child with a woman he knew. This had been proven false but to stave off the publicity they ‘settled’.
 
subllibrm said:
There is an element of man worship in all of this. People who could see it with 100% Hyles, can’t see it with 100% Trump. 🫤
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No, that what you want it to be. In your case there is an element af obsession with anyone who does not follow your perfect, morally pure arguments as to why not vote for Trump.

I believe that, at this point, Trump’s MANY moral failings, his narcissism and his bombast are already baked into the cake, so to speak. You have posted nothing and made no argument that hasn’t been regurgitated many many times before.

You may be morally superior but you aren’t original. 😉
 
biscuit1953 said:
Since you've made it clear that Christians shouldn't be involved in politics you seem to have an obsession painting anyone who supports the former President as a man worshipper. Then you and your buddy invoke Jack Hyles to further smear Christians who do believe they have an obligation to influence the direction of the country. Go on and tell us more about how Trump is an evil man and tell us some more juicy gossip on his personal life. Practice what you preach and get off this thread and quit discussing politics.
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I’m sure Sub’s favorite cologne is Obsession!
 
biscuit1953 said:
James 3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

There is a difference between discussing the path of our nation and who should lead it and sitting around like a bunch of teenage girls gossiping about what so and so may have done in their personal lives. What is being done to Donald Trump by the Justice Department and the state of New York as well as other corrupt officials in other states is blatant. Donald Trump is a flawed man just like everyone else but he deserves to be treated fairly in spite of his moral failures. He was a great President who really loves his country and all you can do is giddily talk about an affair he may have had.

The Bible warns of slander which is digging into someone’s personal life in order to smear them. Look at the policies of Trump and Biden and discuss that instead of slinging mud for the sake of “fighting.”
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Donald Trump son n law made hundred of millions of dollars being his top adviser.

Donald Trump gave bigger tax breaks to the rich than he did to ppl like myself and others.

Yea the economy was much better under Donald Trump but his family and his friends made millions bc he was President. So to sit here like he doing it for you……ok?

You sound like the IFB ppl who defend pedophiles that say, hey the guy fell into sin he’s not perfect neither are you.

I’m not saying Trump is the same as a pedophile.

Again, if he wouldn’t have committed an adultery and paid her hush money with donations he wouldn’t have to lie and say he didn’t sleep with her.

If you actually knew me you’d understand that I don’t give two ————— about the lifestyle he lives.
 
biscuit1953 said:
Since you've made it clear that Christians shouldn't be involved in politics you seem to have an obsession painting anyone who supports the former President as a man worshipper. Then you and your buddy invoke Jack Hyles to further smear Christians who do believe they have an obligation to influence the direction of the country. Go on and tell us more about how Trump is an evil man and tell us some more juicy gossip on his personal life. Practice what you preach and get off this thread and quit discussing politics.
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I’m a Trump supporter.

I’m not 100% Trump.
 
biscuit1953 said:
James 3:5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

There is a difference between discussing the path of our nation and who should lead it and sitting around like a bunch of teenage girls gossiping about what so and so may have done in their personal lives. What is being done to Donald Trump by the Justice Department and the state of New York as well as other corrupt officials in other states is blatant. Donald Trump is a flawed man just like everyone else but he deserves to be treated fairly in spite of his moral failures. He was a great President who really loves his country and all you can do is giddily talk about an affair he may have had.

The Bible warns of slander which is digging into someone’s personal life in order to smear them. Look at the policies of Trump and Biden and discuss that instead of slinging mud for the sake of “fighting.”
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It’s not slander. It’s part of the election.

He has been found guilty of paying her hush money with donations.
 
FSSL said:
Agree. Why is it necessary to believe (and repeat) what the media, Democrats and progressives say about him.

Their goal is to discredit ANYONE seeking the office of President if they are Republican.

The idea that we will lose our witness for supporting Trump is a false piety. Especially when the same repeat the accusations of the left.... False (unproven) accusations undermine the Christian witness.
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I support Trump but I can still say and believe……he’s in this position bc of the lifestyle he lives.
 
Bruh said:
It’s not slander. It’s part of the election.

He has been found guilty of paying her hush money with donations.
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You are a liar. It is about the government setting up a kangaroo court and attempting to send a man to prison for the rest of his life because he is a threat to the New World Order. You don't take a misdemeaner and change the the statutes of limitations for just one year in order to bring Trump to court and then convert that misdemeanor to 34 felonies. You can see the double standards of justice just like everyone else can targeting Christians and anyone who disagrees with what the official government position is. We know what happened with the mail-in ballots, the mandating of taking an experimental drug, the government forcing homosexuality, transgenderism and every other kind of perversion on the institutions in America.

All you can do is get on a forum and attack a man that isn't perfect in every way while vilifying Christians who are supporting the man they believe would be best for this country. Stop comparing Trump supporters to a Jack Hyles cult. I haven't heard you one time talk about the blatant double standards of justice that is being used against the former President. You would rather talk about personal matters, not the policies Trump has compared to Biden.
 
biscuit1953 said:
You are a liar. It is about the government setting up a kangaroo court and attempting to send a man to prison for the rest of his life because he is a threat to the New World Order. You don't take a misdemeaner and change the the statutes of limitations for just one year in order to bring Trump to court and then convert that misdemeanor to 34 felonies. You can see the double standards of justice just like everyone else can targeting Christians and anyone who disagrees with what the official government position is. We know what happened with the mail-in ballots, the mandating of taking an experimental drug, the government forcing homosexuality, transgenderism and every other kind of perversion on the institutions in America.

All you can do is get on a forum and attack a man that isn't perfect in every way while vilifying Christians who are supporting the man they believe would be best for this country. Stop comparing Trump supporters to a Jack Hyles cult. I haven't heard you one time talk about the blatant double standards of justice that is being used against the former President. You would rather talk about personal matters, not the policies Trump has compared to Biden.
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