Just to clarify here...

No profit... just lowball pricing? Whatever... the baby parts industry is alive and well with Planned Parenthood as the source.

You can bicker about the money you say they don't make. Baby parts are being sold and distributed. Abortion is evil.... and it leads to all other kinds of evil.
 
FSSL said:
Abortion is evil.... and it leads to all other kinds of evil.

So is sexual assault, excessive pride and blatant lying, but that sure doesn't seem to bother Republican "Christians".
 
Smellin Coffee said:
FSSL said:
Abortion is evil.... and it leads to all other kinds of evil.
So is sexual assault, excessive pride and blatant lying, but that sure doesn't seem to bother Republican "Christians".
Only a moron would state that Christian Republicans or the many Democrats who voted for him, support "sexual assault, excessive pride and blatant lying". We picked the best of the two choices that's all. your just bitter because your girl lost.

What would you have us to do? Should we have stayed home and allowed the candidate that supported "wicked" and "evil" and "Ungodly" policies run our country. If Christians stay home every time a candidate does not live up to the Bible standard for a Christian, then we will never again see a Christian in office. We will never again have a moral Supreme Court justice and our law makers will only be the ones supporting ungodly policies.

Admit it you like Clinton because she was far more likely to continue the handouts you so love and defend while working people struggle to pay for them and we leave 20 trillion dollar credit card bill to our grand kids. 
 
Red Herring argument. If one cannot defend his own position, he moves the goal post


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sword said:
Admit it you like Clinton because she was far more likely to continue the handouts you so love and defend while working people struggle to pay for them and we leave 20 trillion dollar credit card bill to our grand kids.

To be fair, Smellin didn't support Clinton.

He just wishes everybody else had.
 
sword said:
Smellin Coffee said:
FSSL said:
Abortion is evil.... and it leads to all other kinds of evil.
So is sexual assault, excessive pride and blatant lying, but that sure doesn't seem to bother Republican "Christians".
Only a moron would state that Christian Republicans or the many Democrats who voted for him, support "sexual assault, excessive pride and blatant lying". We picked the best of the two choices that's all. your just bitter because your girl lost.

Wrong. I stated from the output Clinton was a hypocrite for her monetary alliances with countries that opposed the people (women and gays) she claimed to support. I've got posts here during the election pointing this out. I actually voted for a Republican as a write-in vote. So don't assume she ever was "my" girl.

sword said:
What would you have us to do? Should we have stayed home and allowed the candidate that supported "wicked" and "evil" and "Ungodly" policies run our country. If Christians stay home every time a candidate does not live up to the Bible standard for a Christian, then we will never again see a Christian in office. We will never again have a moral Supreme Court justice and our law makers will only be the ones supporting ungodly policies.

Oh, so making fun of the disabled, degrading immigrants and Muslims, blatant lying, coarse language and braggadocios sexual assault isn't supporting "evil and Ungodly" policies? Maybe your right. Having the right policy is more important than the right character which influences policy.

I'm not saying you should stay home. I'm saying, you should vote for the person who had the best character/agreeable political position you hold rather than voting to keep the other party out. But then again, for me, voting is NOT about winning. It is about doing the right thing with the closest person, even if they have no shot.

sword said:
Admit it you like Clinton because she was far more likely to continue the handouts you so love and defend while working people struggle to pay for them and we leave 20 trillion dollar credit card bill to our grand kids.

Again, see point #1 above. She was politically aligning herself with world leaders who stone gays and raped women simply because of accusations. There is no way in H-E-Double Toothpicks I would have voted for her. She may have been as much influenced by those countries as Trump was influenced by Russia. Maybe even more so.
 
For planned parenthood, prenatal care = abortion.

FWIW all of those "services" they offer are available at the county health department AND many crises pregnancy centers (which generally get no government funding).
 
FSSL said:
No profit... just lowball pricing? Whatever... the baby parts industry is alive and well with Planned Parenthood as the source.

You can bicker about the money you say they don't make. Baby parts are being sold and distributed. Abortion is evil.... and it leads to all other kinds of evil.

I get that you don't agree with abortion. If the abortion happens then the tissue being used for research is a good thing. I am not arguing the abortion is but the the research is. The research is not evil.
 
subllibrm said:
For planned parenthood, prenatal care = abortion.

FWIW all of those "services" they offer are available at the county health department AND many crises pregnancy centers (which generally get no government funding).

Alternative Fact. Abortion makes up 3% of the total of business the PP provides. It is also impossible to say what every County Health Department provides in 50 states.
 
Ransom said:
sword said:
Admit it you like Clinton because she was far more likely to continue the handouts you so love and defend while working people struggle to pay for them and we leave 20 trillion dollar credit card bill to our grand kids.

To be fair, Smellin didn't support Clinton.

He just wishes everybody else had.

Not really. I wish everybody else would have taken a third choice over either of the candidates. McMullen and Kasich were better ethical examples. Not to mention the write-in block where any name could be voted for.

But nah, with BOTH parties it's all about winning, character and ethics be damned.
 
LongGone said:
I get that you don't agree with abortion. If the abortion happens then the tissue being used for research is a good thing. I am not arguing the abortion is but the the research is. The research is not evil.

If the Jew is shot in the head, then why not use his skin to sell lampshades.

Lampshades are not evil.
 
FSSL said:
LongGone said:
I get that you don't agree with abortion. If the abortion happens then the tissue being used for research is a good thing. I am not arguing the abortion is but the the research is. The research is not evil.

If the Jew is shot in the head, then why not use his skin to sell lampshades.

Lampshades are not evil.

Lampshades cannot potentially save the lives of others down the line.
 
Ransom said:
sword said:
Admit it you like Clinton because she was far more likely to continue the handouts you so love and defend while working people struggle to pay for them and we leave 20 trillion dollar credit card bill to our grand kids.

To be fair, Smellin didn't support Clinton.

He just wishes everybody else had.

Exactly :D

Smellin isn't a socialist liberal democrat (as he regularly tells us). He just believes, supports and defends everything they stand for....
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Lampshades cannot potentially save the lives of others down the line.

Right. So let's kill babies to potentially save babies. The logic is just as perverse.

Abortion exists because there is big money to be made. That's it. It really comes down to that.

- get paid to abort
- get government money which can be washed within in the organization's budget
- get people to purchase the parts... keeping them intact to make the biggest possible buck

We had a problem with one man, Hitler. Now we have an entire organization, lobbyists and baby parts vendors and buyers all coordinating to perpetuate our Holocaust.
 
FSSL said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Lampshades cannot potentially save the lives of others down the line.

Right. So let's kill babies to potentially save babies. The logic is just as perverse.

Abortion exists because there is big money to be made. That's it. It really comes down to that.

- get paid to abort
- get government money which can be washed within in the organization's budget
- get people to purchase the parts... keeping them intact to make the biggest possible buck

We had a problem with one man, Hitler. Now we have an entire organization, lobbyists and baby parts vendors and buyers all coordinating to perpetuate our Holocaust.

The problem is that this is purely your speculation. You harp on this because using the language "They sell baby parts to make a profit" has a lot of emotional impact whether or there is reality to your statement. You also devalue the terror that people experienced in German camps and gas chambers when you make the Hitler comparison. You can be right to against abortion but you are wrong when you go to any means to make your point.
 
FSSL said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Lampshades cannot potentially save the lives of others down the line.

Right. So let's kill babies to potentially save babies. The logic is just as perverse.

Abortion exists because there is big money to be made. That's it. It really comes down to that.

- get paid to abort
- get government money which can be washed within in the organization's budget
- get people to purchase the parts... keeping them intact to make the biggest possible buck

We had a problem with one man, Hitler. Now we have an entire organization, lobbyists and baby parts vendors and buyers all coordinating to perpetuate our Holocaust.

(Psst...I'm still opposed to selling unborn babies, even for research. To believe otherwise would be like saying rape and incest that bore children as a result is "God's will". I was simply pointing out the flaw in your analogy. ;) )
 
Smellin Coffee said:
(Psst...I'm still opposed to selling unborn babies, even for research. To believe otherwise would be like saying rape and incest that bore children as a result is "God's will". I was simply pointing out the flaw in your analogy. ;) )

Psst... there was no flaw in my analogy. That's why your statement showed further logical absurdity.
 
LongGone said:
subllibrm said:
For planned parenthood, prenatal care = abortion.

FWIW all of those "services" they offer are available at the county health department AND many crises pregnancy centers (which generally get no government funding).

Alternative Fact. Abortion makes up 3% of the total of business the PP provides. It is also impossible to say what every County Health Department provides in 50 states.

So defund PP (a private corporation) and move the money to county services to bring them up to snuff. Easy peasy!
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Ransom said:
sword said:
Admit it you like Clinton because she was far more likely to continue the handouts you so love and defend while working people struggle to pay for them and we leave 20 trillion dollar credit card bill to our grand kids.

To be fair, Smellin didn't support Clinton.

He just wishes everybody else had.

Not really. I wish everybody else would have taken a third choice over either of the candidates. McMullen and Kasich were better ethical examples. Not to mention the write-in block where any name could be voted for.

But nah, with BOTH parties it's all about winning, character and ethics be damned.

Kasich was my first choice.
 
subllibrm said:
LongGone said:
subllibrm said:
For planned parenthood, prenatal care = abortion.

FWIW all of those "services" they offer are available at the county health department AND many crises pregnancy centers (which generally get no government funding).

Alternative Fact. Abortion makes up 3% of the total of business the PP provides. It is also impossible to say what every County Health Department provides in 50 states.

So defund PP (a private corporation) and move the money to county services to bring them up to snuff. Easy peasy!

If it provides as much support to poor women, I'm all in favor for doing it!
 
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