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Many CCM stations play Matt Maher.  "Your Grace Is Enough" is one of his popular songs. But, he is also a practicing Catholic. That bothers me since I know his religion is contrary to foundational Biblical truths in regards to the gospel and sanctification. What are your thoughts about Catholic CCM artist mixing with our Praise & Worship services and entertainment?

Great is your faithfulness oh God
You wrestle with the sinner's heart
You lead us by still waters into mercy
And nothing can keep us apart
So remember your people
Remember your children
Remember your promise, oh God
Your grace is enough.
Your grace is enough.
Your grace is enough.
Your grace is enough for me.
Great is your love and justice God.
You use the weak to lead the strong.
You lead us in the song of your salvation
And all your people sing along.
So remember your people
Remember your children
Remember your promise, oh God
Your Grace is enough
Heaven reaching down to us
Your Grace is enough for me
God, I see your grace is enough
I'm covered in your love
Your grace is enough for me
For me
 
No problem for me. I like to sing "Silent Night" too.
 
Tim said:
Many CCM stations play Matt Maher.  "Your Grace Is Enough" is one of his popular songs. But, he is also a practicing Catholic. That bothers me since I know his religion is contrary to foundational historic Biblical Evangelical truths interpretation/hermeneutic in regards to the gospel and sanctification. What are your thoughts about Catholic CCM artist mixing with our Praise & Worship services and entertainment?

Fixed it for ya. ;)
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Tim said:
Many CCM stations play Matt Maher.  "Your Grace Is Enough" is one of his popular songs. But, he is also a practicing Catholic. That bothers me since I know his religion is contrary to foundational historic Biblical Evangelical truths interpretation/hermeneutic in regards to the gospel and sanctification. What are your thoughts about Catholic CCM artist mixing with our Praise & Worship services and entertainment?

Fixed it for ya. ;)

That's the one thing about Smellin'.  He always is a straight shooter, no matter how heretical it makes him.

So Smellin' supports the RC sacraments as a necessary part of salvation.

Of course no one is surprised.
 
Twisted said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Tim said:
Many CCM stations play Matt Maher.  "Your Grace Is Enough" is one of his popular songs. But, he is also a practicing Catholic. That bothers me since I know his religion is contrary to foundational historic Biblical Evangelical truths interpretation/hermeneutic in regards to the gospel and sanctification. What are your thoughts about Catholic CCM artist mixing with our Praise & Worship services and entertainment?

Fixed it for ya. ;)

That's the one thing about Smellin'.  He always is a straight shooter, no matter how heretical it makes him.

So Smellin' supports the RC sacraments as a necessary part of salvation.

Of course no one is surprised.

I don't really. I'm just saying the Catholics have their interpretation in which they believe is the proper hermeneutic.

I believe one can believe in Jesus the way Evangelicals teach, but if they don't forgive others (which many consider to be a work), one cannot have his sins forgiven by God despite all the faith in the world. Catholics don't believe that so you can see I disagree with both Evangelicals and Catholics. :)
 
Tim said:
What are your thoughts about Catholic CCM artist mixing with our Praise & Worship services and entertainment?

Since you decided to make this post as much about "Your Grace Is Enough" as about Matt Maher,  why don't you show us the theological problems with that song.
 
Seems the testimony of the song presents a clear declaration of his personal faith...that he might attend a church that is in error on some points puts him in the company of many people.  Clearly if this is his statement of faith, he is in disagreement with historical teaching of the Roman church...that could be good as he might even be used to lead many in the corrupt church to a saving knowledge of Jesus.  Now that is evangelism.
 
The worst is when people quote Mother Teresa.  8)
 
Ransom said:
Tim said:
What are your thoughts about Catholic CCM artist mixing with our Praise & Worship services and entertainment?

Since you decided to make this post as much about "Your Grace Is Enough" as about Matt Maher,  why don't you show us the theological problems with that song.

Good idea, but start with something easy, like "Battle Hymn of the Republic".
 
Never heard the song and have never heard of the artist mentioned.  As a song, it seems rather odd.  A collection of random statements that range from good doctrine to quasi-emotional-spiritual.  The individual statements do not lead to any doctrine, build on one another or really even relate to each other, other than "Grace Is Enough" is so frequently repeated. 

Not impressed.
 
I think we should go to the source of all truth on this issue. (as soon as he gets back from his Africa trip)
 
Binaca Chugger said:
Never heard the song and have never heard of the artist mentioned.  As a song, it seems rather odd.  A collection of random statements that range from good doctrine to quasi-emotional-spiritual.  The individual statements do not lead to any doctrine, build on one another or really even relate to each other, other than "Grace Is Enough" is so frequently repeated. 

Not impressed.

Laid out like many of the psalms. They are pretty unimpressive too.  8)
 
Ransom said:
Tim said:
What are your thoughts about Catholic CCM artist mixing with our Praise & Worship services and entertainment?

Since you decided to make this post as much about "Your Grace Is Enough" as about Matt Maher,  why don't you show us the theological problems with that song.

I would if that were the topic. But, the topic is focused on a practicing Catholic writing songs sung in evangelical worship services and played on radio stations .... and even an atheist can write a decent song that would appear from the pen of a evangelical.

Even Bob Dillon can write decent "Christian" song ... could argue better than the song I shared by Matt Mayer perhaps. And I know at least one CCM artist covered this song.

"Gotta Serve Somebody"

You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

Might be a rock'n' roll adict prancing on the stage
Might have money and drugs at your commands, women in a cage
You may be a business man or some high degree thief
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a state trooper, you might be an young turk
You may be the head of some big TV network
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame
You may be living in another country under another name.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a construction worker working on a home
You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome
You might own guns and you might even own tanks
You might be somebody's landlord you might even own banks.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride
You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side
You may be working in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair
You may be somebody's mistress, may be somebody's heir.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may call me Terry, you may call me Jimmy
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray
You may call me anything but no matter what you say.

You're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
 
Tim said:
I would if that were the topic. But, the topic is focused on a practicing Catholic writing songs sung in evangelical worship services and played on radio stations .... and even an atheist can write a decent song that would appear from the pen of a evangelical.

And since the songs cannot be separated from their content, I repeat: please tell us what you find theologically problematic about "Your Grace Is Enough."
 
Ransom said:
Tim said:
I would if that were the topic. But, the topic is focused on a practicing Catholic writing songs sung in evangelical worship services and played on radio stations .... and even an atheist can write a decent song that would appear from the pen of a evangelical.

And since the songs cannot be separated from their content, I repeat: please tell us what you find theologically problematic about "Your Grace Is Enough."

Besides the simple fact that a practicing Catholic wrote the song. A man who gets into a box and confesses his sins to another man ... and we want fresh new songs from that source? I don't reject the song is great candy for Christian entertainment ... and he isn't alone in writing simple songs for Christians. But anyone studying the Holy Word should see their error and turn from Catholicism eventually. If he can't do that, I fear I struggle with his words, no matter how well they appear on paper. I struggle becasue of his spiritual blindness in a huge public matter - his practicing religion.

Let me start with this observation that I located from another critic. The song opens with God being rightly praised for His incredible faithfulness to us.

Great is Your faithfulness oh God, You wrestle with the sinner?s heart
You lead us by still waters and to mercy, And nothing can keep us apart


But, soon after that we?re asking God to remember us? Didn?t we just get through describing how He?s leading us, loving on us, and allowing nothing to come between us? Now we ask Him to remember His people and His promise? Why on earth would we do that? Clearly we believe God has forgotten us?not just us, but also His promise. Which promise? Who knows? The song leaves it wide open for us to accuse God of forgetting anything that comes to mind. WOW.

So remember Your people, Remember Your children
Remember Your promise Oh God


https://924jeremiah.wordpress.com/2015/01/18/corrupted-worship-songs-your-grace-is-enough/

 
CANON 12:  "If any one shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ's sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified...let him be accursed"


That dude knows what Rome believes




 
Tim said:
Besides the simple fact that a practicing Catholic wrote the song.

Yes. Besides that.

But, soon after that we?re asking God to remember us? Didn?t we just get through describing how He?s leading us, loving on us, and allowing nothing to come between us? Now we ask Him to remember His people and His promise? Why on earth would we do that?

Good question. Why don't you ask the psalmist (Psa. 74:2; 74:18; 89:50; 106:4; 119:49; 132;1, to name but a few) why he asks God to "remember"? This same style of language is all over the book of Nehemiah, as well.

It is part of traditional prayer language to ask God to "remember" his promises, his people, the way their enemies have treated them, and so forth.  Did David or Nehemiah think God had forgotten? If it's good enough for the Bible, why shouldn't Matt Maher write a song with the same kind of language?
 
Tim said:
Many CCM stations play Matt Maher.  "Your Grace Is Enough" is one of his popular songs. But, he is also a practicing Catholic. That bothers me since I know his religion is contrary to foundational Biblical truths in regards to the gospel and sanctification. What are your thoughts about Catholic CCM artist mixing with our Praise & Worship services and entertainment?

Great is your faithfulness oh God
You wrestle with the sinner's heart
You lead us by still waters into mercy
And nothing can keep us apart
So remember your people
Remember your children
Remember your promise, oh God
Your grace is enough.
Your grace is enough.
Your grace is enough.
Your grace is enough for me.
Great is your love and justice God.
You use the weak to lead the strong.
You lead us in the song of your salvation
And all your people sing along.
So remember your people
Remember your children
Remember your promise, oh God
Your Grace is enough
Heaven reaching down to us
Your Grace is enough for me
God, I see your grace is enough
I'm covered in your love
Your grace is enough for me
For me

What about hymns written by dead Catholics such as that of Bernard of Clairvaux or Francis of Assisi?  You can find at least one of those even in hymnals from publishers who are by no means ecumenical.
 
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