Mike Pence: One of Trump's greatest choices

[Ransom]

You can't use actual rapist when she said he did and he said he didn'.t.

Why don't you believe women? You must be an apologist for rape culture.

Not excusing Clinton behavior

If you can't say he's a rapist, what do you need to excuse him for?

but don't get how you focus on allegations from the President in 1996 and excuse the remarks of the President elected in 2016.

That's OK. I don't get how you can focus on the marital integrity of the vice president, and somehow make it about the remarks made by the president.

Maybe it's not about their respective treatment of women at all...

 

[LongGone]

You can't use actual rapist when she said he did and he said he didn'.t.

Why don't you believe women? You must be an apologist for rape culture.

Not excusing Clinton behavior

If you can't say he's a rapist, what do you need to excuse him for?

but don't get how you focus on allegations from the President in 1996 and excuse the remarks of the President elected in 2016.

That's OK. I don't get how you can focus on the marital integrity of the vice president, and somehow make it about the remarks made by the president.

Maybe it's not about their respective treatment of women at all...

Clinton had extra-marital affairs. I won't excuse that behavior.

I didn't change the topic from Pence to Clinton. Clinton was President in 1996 and Trump is now.

 

[subllibrm]

Bill Clinton met with a woman other than his wife alone in his office. We all know how that turned out. Clinton is a liberal hero.

Mike Pence sets boundaries in his interaction with other women that respect his wife and the exclusive relationship with her he vowed to keep. For this he is called a creep, a sexist, a rape-culture apologist, and other things.

The left is genuinely perverted.

I will agree that this issue gets magnified by the fact the Pence is a conservative.  He has the right to do whatever he wants but don't be surprised when a man who call his wife "mother" in public meetings and can't meet one on one for lunch in a public place to discuss is seen as odd. Most married people in the working world have interactions with the opposite sex in appropriate situations without disrespecting or cheating on their spouse.  Maybe I have been tainted by pastors who have screamed this is the right way to live but were getting extra action on the side themselves. I don't think people who question the choice that Pence has made have to be perverted.

I have a good friend who calls his wife mother all the time. He sees it as an honorific.

I see no problem with a couple setting boundaries in their relationship.

Why are people who are claim to be for "freedom" and "tolerance" questioning Mr. and Mrs. Pence at all?

 

[Smellin Coffee]

I see no problem with a couple setting boundaries in their relationship.

Why are people who are claim to be for "freedom" and "tolerance" questioning Mr. and Mrs. Pence at all?

I'm with you on this.

But the reverse is true also. Why do folks who ask this question in support of Pence's marriage boundaries condemn homosexuals in their marriage?

 

[Ransom]

Why do folks who ask this question in support of Pence's marriage boundaries condemn homosexuals in their marriage?

Homosexuality is an abomination. Homosexual marriage, which is an oxymoron, is just an abomination licence.

 

[subllibrm]

I see no problem with a couple setting boundaries in their relationship.

Why are people who are claim to be for "freedom" and "tolerance" questioning Mr. and Mrs. Pence at all?

I'm with you on this.

But the reverse is true also. Why do folks who ask this question in support of Pence's marriage boundaries condemn homosexuals in their marriage?

I realize that you desire to make a break from your past but please let go of the anchor, you have gone in deep enough.

 

[LongGone]

Bill Clinton met with a woman other than his wife alone in his office. We all know how that turned out. Clinton is a liberal hero.

Mike Pence sets boundaries in his interaction with other women that respect his wife and the exclusive relationship with her he vowed to keep. For this he is called a creep, a sexist, a rape-culture apologist, and other things.

The left is genuinely perverted.

I will agree that this issue gets magnified by the fact the Pence is a conservative.  He has the right to do whatever he wants but don't be surprised when a man who call his wife "mother" in public meetings and can't meet one on one for lunch in a public place to discuss is seen as odd. Most married people in the working world have interactions with the opposite sex in appropriate situations without disrespecting or cheating on their spouse.  Maybe I have been tainted by pastors who have screamed this is the right way to live but were getting extra action on the side themselves. I don't think people who question the choice that Pence has made have to be perverted.

I have a good friend who calls his wife mother all the time. He sees it as an honorific.

I see no problem with a couple setting boundaries in their relationship.

Why are people who are claim to be for "freedom" and "tolerance" questioning Mr. and Mrs. Pence at all?

Your friend is welcome to call his wife whatever he wants. I will be truthful I have no idea why one would want to call his wife by the same name he called his mother but to each his own. The reason Pence gets questioned is he is a public figure who has chosen to share the "name" and "boundaries" publicly.

I don't care what the Pence does but as I said in Hyles-Anderson part of the forum if I were a female representative or senator I may feel that I would not have the same access to influence the VP that my male colleagues would have to influence. I may also feel that it continues the feeling of the "boys club".

I will also admit I am tainted by preachers who have endorsed these types of boundaries and yet still managed to cheat on their wife. Having lunch in a public place and having appropriate business conversation is not going to cause you to have an affair. Joseph refused the female advances not because of boundaries but because of his commitment to be pure. Reasonable care always makes sense but appropriate conversation in a business setting does not lead to an affair.

What would be interesting to know is has Pence always has male secretaries and support staff. I have personally known more affairs that started people who interacted daily than I have people who have had business lunches.

 

[Ransom]

What would be interesting to know is has Pence always has male secretaries and support staff. I have personally known more affairs that started people who interacted daily than I have people who have had business lunches.

I wonder why so many on the left are so eager to misrepresent what Pence actually said.

The key word was "alone." He doesn't meet with women alone.

He has had many women working for him, and at least one of them has written, in a major liberal newspaper of record, that his decision created a very positive work environment in which she was able to excel.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Why do folks who ask this question in support of Pence's marriage boundaries condemn homosexuals in their marriage?

Homosexuality is an abomination. Homosexual marriage, which is an oxymoron, is just an abomination licence.

Lying is also an abomination, but I don't hear the Republicans on this forum calling out the Predator-in-Chief on his continual lying.

 

[Ransom]

Lying is also an abomination, but I don't hear the Republicans on this forum calling out the Predator-in-Chief on his continual lying.

Maybe you aren't baiting us successfully with your constant attempts to change the subject.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Lying is also an abomination, but I don't hear the Republicans on this forum calling out the Predator-in-Chief on his continual lying.

Maybe you aren't baiting us successfully with your constant attempts to change the subject.

I guess what is good for the goose isn't good for the gander...

 

[sword]

Lying is also an abomination, but I don't hear the Republicans on this forum calling out the Predator-in-Chief on his continual lying.

Maybe you aren't baiting us successfully with your constant attempts to change the subject.

I guess what is good for the goose isn't good for the gander...

Smellin,
You have made it clear you do not like Trump. I would say on a few of your criticism most of us would agree with you. Many of us have stated he was the better of the two choices given. What you have not said is why you dislike Pence. The only criticism you seem to have of him is his willingness to work for good in Trump's administration and that he is very careful in his interactions with women he is not related to.

Do you like Mike Pence, and if not what do you dislike about him?

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Smellin,
You have made it clear you do not like Trump. I would say on a few of your criticism most of us would agree with you. Many of us have stated he was the better of the two choices given. What you have not said is why you dislike Pence. The only criticism you seem to have of him is his willingness to work for good in Trump's administration and that he is very careful in his interactions with women he is not related to.

Do you like Mike Pence, and if not what do you dislike about him?

I don't like or dislike him. I think he would be willing to take back LBGT rights if he could. I dislike his refusal to pardon Keith Cooper who had been cleared through DNA and testimonial witness evidence of committing a crime. His state's economy ranked among the weakest. It took him two months before trying to get intervention for his state's HIV breakout. My biggest dislike though is like you mentioned, his hypocrisy in aligning himself with Trump; his marriage and morality stances and yoking up with the opposite.

I'm not sure he is a strong leader, but I wouldn't call that a reason to dislike him. I also find it ironic his own party within his own state wanted him gone from being Governor. I don't have any issues with his personal character, however, which is why I am not on the "bash Pence" bandwagon, despite the few things with which I disagree.

I would much rather see Pence in the WH than Trump.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Smellin,
You have made it clear you do not like Trump. I would say on a few of your criticism most of us would agree with you. Many of us have stated he was the better of the two choices given. What you have not said is why you dislike Pence. The only criticism you seem to have of him is his willingness to work for good in Trump's administration and that he is very careful in his interactions with women he is not related to.

Do you like Mike Pence, and if not what do you dislike about him?

I don't like or dislike him. I think he would be willing to take back LBGT rights if he could. I dislike his refusal to pardon Keith Cooper who had been cleared through DNA and testimonial witness evidence of committing a crime. His state's economy ranked among the weakest. It took him two months before trying to get intervention for his state's HIV breakout. My biggest dislike though is like you mentioned, his hypocrisy in aligning himself with Trump; his marriage and morality stances and yoking up with the opposite.

I'm not sure he is a strong leader, but I wouldn't call that a reason to dislike him. I also find it ironic his own party within his own state wanted him gone from being Governor. I don't have any issues with his personal character, however, which is why I am not on the "bash Pence" bandwagon, despite the few things with which I disagree.

I would much rather see Pence in the WH than Trump.

You illustrate low information voter....or in your case it may be just highly gullible...

Tell us again how you're not a socialist liberal democrat....

 

[LongGone]

What would be interesting to know is has Pence always has male secretaries and support staff. I have personally known more affairs that started people who interacted daily than I have people who have had business lunches.

I wonder why so many on the left are so eager to misrepresent what Pence actually said.

The key word was "alone." He doesn't meet with women alone.

He has had many women working for him, and at least one of them has written, in a major liberal newspaper of record, that his decision created a very positive work environment in which she was able to excel.

I am glad this woman has a good experience working for Pence. In the context it appears that Pence would not have lunch with a woman in a public restaurant. If I were a women representative or senator and knew that he would meet with my male colleagues one-on-one at lunch but not me because I am a woman I might have an issue with that policy. Being able to influence the decision makers is key to a politician getting their job done successfully. 

 

[LongGone]

Smellin,
You have made it clear you do not like Trump. I would say on a few of your criticism most of us would agree with you. Many of us have stated he was the better of the two choices given. What you have not said is why you dislike Pence. The only criticism you seem to have of him is his willingness to work for good in Trump's administration and that he is very careful in his interactions with women he is not related to.

Do you like Mike Pence, and if not what do you dislike about him?

I don't like or dislike him. I think he would be willing to take back LBGT rights if he could. I dislike his refusal to pardon Keith Cooper who had been cleared through DNA and testimonial witness evidence of committing a crime. His state's economy ranked among the weakest. It took him two months before trying to get intervention for his state's HIV breakout. My biggest dislike though is like you mentioned, his hypocrisy in aligning himself with Trump; his marriage and morality stances and yoking up with the opposite.

I'm not sure he is a strong leader, but I wouldn't call that a reason to dislike him. I also find it ironic his own party within his own state wanted him gone from being Governor. I don't have any issues with his personal character, however, which is why I am not on the "bash Pence" bandwagon, despite the few things with which I disagree.

I would much rather see Pence in the WH than Trump.

You illustrate low information voter....or in your case it may be just highly gullible...

Tell us again how you're not a socialist liberal democrat....

You may be the low information voter on this one (no surprise 8))

A May 2016 poll showed that Pence's job approval rating in Indiana was 40 percent-way underwater, said the Indianapolis Star. More people-42 percent-disapproved of his job performance than liked it, said the newspaper.

 

[Ransom]

If I were a women representative or senator and knew that he would meet with my male colleagues one-on-one at lunch but not me because I am a woman I might have an issue with that policy.

I'm sure paparazzi and other rumour-mongers also take issue with the policy. It means Pence's political opponents can't spread innuendo.

What if he was willing to meet with his female colleagues one-on-one elsewhere? The office boardroom, for example.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Smellin,
You have made it clear you do not like Trump. I would say on a few of your criticism most of us would agree with you. Many of us have stated he was the better of the two choices given. What you have not said is why you dislike Pence. The only criticism you seem to have of him is his willingness to work for good in Trump's administration and that he is very careful in his interactions with women he is not related to.

Do you like Mike Pence, and if not what do you dislike about him?

I don't like or dislike him. I think he would be willing to take back LBGT rights if he could. I dislike his refusal to pardon Keith Cooper who had been cleared through DNA and testimonial witness evidence of committing a crime. His state's economy ranked among the weakest. It took him two months before trying to get intervention for his state's HIV breakout. My biggest dislike though is like you mentioned, his hypocrisy in aligning himself with Trump; his marriage and morality stances and yoking up with the opposite.

I'm not sure he is a strong leader, but I wouldn't call that a reason to dislike him. I also find it ironic his own party within his own state wanted him gone from being Governor. I don't have any issues with his personal character, however, which is why I am not on the "bash Pence" bandwagon, despite the few things with which I disagree.

I would much rather see Pence in the WH than Trump.

You illustrate low information voter....or in your case it may be just highly gullible...

Tell us again how you're not a socialist liberal democrat....

You may be the low information voter on this one (no surprise 8))

A May 2016 poll showed that Pence's job approval rating in Indiana was 40 percent-way underwater, said the Indianapolis Star. More people-42 percent-disapproved of his job performance than liked it, said the newspaper.

And the like minded pollsters assured us Hillary would be President!

Trump, for all he is, has excellent political skills. And he didn't choose Pence because of his broad based unpopularity! Despite what Smellin's liberal sources might say.... :

 

[HeDied4U]

Smellin,
You have made it clear you do not like Trump. I would say on a few of your criticism most of us would agree with you. Many of us have stated he was the better of the two choices given. What you have not said is why you dislike Pence. The only criticism you seem to have of him is his willingness to work for good in Trump's administration and that he is very careful in his interactions with women he is not related to.

Do you like Mike Pence, and if not what do you dislike about him?

I don't like or dislike him. I think he would be willing to take back LBGT rights if he could. I dislike his refusal to pardon Keith Cooper who had been cleared through DNA and testimonial witness evidence of committing a crime. His state's economy ranked among the weakest. It took him two months before trying to get intervention for his state's HIV breakout. My biggest dislike though is like you mentioned, his hypocrisy in aligning himself with Trump; his marriage and morality stances and yoking up with the opposite.

I'm not sure he is a strong leader, but I wouldn't call that a reason to dislike him. I also find it ironic his own party within his own state wanted him gone from being Governor. I don't have any issues with his personal character, however, which is why I am not on the "bash Pence" bandwagon, despite the few things with which I disagree.

I would much rather see Pence in the WH than Trump.

You illustrate low information voter....or in your case it may be just highly gullible...

Tell us again how you're not a socialist liberal democrat....

You may be the low information voter on this one (no surprise 8))

A May 2016 poll showed that Pence's job approval rating in Indiana was 40 percent-way underwater, said the Indianapolis Star. More people-42 percent-disapproved of his job performance than liked it, said the newspaper.

With all the "Fire Pence" and "Pence Must Go" yard signs that were displayed pretty much everywhere here in the northwest part of the state (a democratic "stronghold" in a mostly Republican state), I'm surprised his approval rate was actually that high. I guess he had more support in the central and southern parts of the state.

 

[LongGone]

Smellin,
You have made it clear you do not like Trump. I would say on a few of your criticism most of us would agree with you. Many of us have stated he was the better of the two choices given. What you have not said is why you dislike Pence. The only criticism you seem to have of him is his willingness to work for good in Trump's administration and that he is very careful in his interactions with women he is not related to.

Do you like Mike Pence, and if not what do you dislike about him?

I don't like or dislike him. I think he would be willing to take back LBGT rights if he could. I dislike his refusal to pardon Keith Cooper who had been cleared through DNA and testimonial witness evidence of committing a crime. His state's economy ranked among the weakest. It took him two months before trying to get intervention for his state's HIV breakout. My biggest dislike though is like you mentioned, his hypocrisy in aligning himself with Trump; his marriage and morality stances and yoking up with the opposite.

I'm not sure he is a strong leader, but I wouldn't call that a reason to dislike him. I also find it ironic his own party within his own state wanted him gone from being Governor. I don't have any issues with his personal character, however, which is why I am not on the "bash Pence" bandwagon, despite the few things with which I disagree.

I would much rather see Pence in the WH than Trump.

You illustrate low information voter....or in your case it may be just highly gullible...

Tell us again how you're not a socialist liberal democrat....

You may be the low information voter on this one (no surprise 8))

A May 2016 poll showed that Pence's job approval rating in Indiana was 40 percent-way underwater, said the Indianapolis Star. More people-42 percent-disapproved of his job performance than liked it, said the newspaper.

And the like minded pollsters assured us Hillary would be President!

Trump, for all he is, has excellent political skills. And he didn't choose Pence because of his broad based unpopularity! Despite what Smellin's liberal sources might say.... :

Simply Pence appealed to Evangelical voters. It did not matter had popular or not popular he was in Indiana. If you mean that good political skills means he will say or do whatever he needs to get elected you are correct. If good political skills means the ability to govern...the jury is still out.