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Are we less spiritual or less 'Biblical' than those who do?
Why or why not?
Why or why not?
Tarheel Baptist said:Are we less spiritual or less 'Biblical' than those who do?
Why or why not?
Walt said:Tarheel Baptist said:Are we less spiritual or less 'Biblical' than those who do?
Why or why not?
Did you used to have one, and drop it, or have you never had one?
Tarheel Baptist said:Are we less spiritual or less 'Biblical' than those who do?
Why or why not?
Walt said:Tarheel Baptist said:Are we less spiritual or less 'Biblical' than those who do?
Why or why not?
Did you used to have one, and drop it, or have you never had one?
lnf said:HaHa! Then the most "graceful" church wouldn't have any services at all!
Just send your tithes to PO Box XXX to receive a blessing!
lnf said:“Is our outreach effective? Are we capitalizing on our outreach efforts through our service times/frequency, discipleship, and specialized programs? Are we serving our community’s spiritual needs?â€
The Rogue Tomato said:lnf said:“Is our outreach effective? Are we capitalizing on our outreach efforts through our service times/frequency, discipleship, and specialized programs? Are we serving our community’s spiritual needs?â€
Given the above "measurements", your assembly has much bigger problems than service times and frequency. The assembling of the saints is not for outreach. Reaching the lost may be a side-effect, but that's not the purpose.
lnf said:The Rogue Tomato said:lnf said:“Is our outreach effective? Are we capitalizing on our outreach efforts through our service times/frequency, discipleship, and specialized programs? Are we serving our community’s spiritual needs?â€
Given the above "measurements", your assembly has much bigger problems than service times and frequency. The assembling of the saints is not for outreach. Reaching the lost may be a side-effect, but that's not the purpose.
Umm, Mr. Tomato, I don't believe I linked outreach to "scheduled services". Either I am a poor communicator or you have viewed my comments through the bias I perceive you have toward the predominant church model. Whichever doesn't really matter. I'm willing to explain what I meant.
What I meant was that outreach happens outside of the church building. But at some point in time, those people reached through "outreach" will (hopefully) be sitting in regular/special services in the church building. Are we discipling them? Are we offering opportunities for them to grow in Christ through our programs? That's what I meant by capitalizing on our outreach efforts.
The focus I meant to convey is that the church has a responsibility to help "Baby Christians" grow into "Mature Christians".
Do you disagree?
Tarheel Baptist said:I have no problem with those who have a Sunday evening service, of course.
But fail to find a Biblical mandate for such...or a Biblical foundation that it is wrong not to have one.
Mathew Ward said:Tarheel Baptist said:I have no problem with those who have a Sunday evening service, of course.
But fail to find a Biblical mandate for such...or a Biblical foundation that it is wrong not to have one.
I think an autonomous church has the freedom to choose when they meet, where they meet and the style of meeting they will have.
Mathew Ward said:Tarheel Baptist said:I have no problem with those who have a Sunday evening service, of course.
But fail to find a Biblical mandate for such...or a Biblical foundation that it is wrong not to have one.
I think an autonomous church has the freedom to choose when they meet, where they meet and the style of meeting they will have.
bgwilkinson said:Mathew Ward said:Tarheel Baptist said:I have no problem with those who have a Sunday evening service, of course.
But fail to find a Biblical mandate for such...or a Biblical foundation that it is wrong not to have one.
I think an autonomous church has the freedom to choose when they meet, where they meet and the style of meeting they will have.
Autonomy of the local ecclesia, how distinctively Baptist.
Convinced Baptists concur.
Tarheel Baptist said:I have no problem with those who have a Sunday evening service, of course.
But fail to find a Biblical mandate for such...or a Biblical foundation that it is wrong not to have one.
Mathew Ward said:Tarheel Baptist said:I have no problem with those who have a Sunday evening service, of course.
But fail to find a Biblical mandate for such...or a Biblical foundation that it is wrong not to have one.
I think an autonomous church has the freedom to choose when they meet, where they meet and the style of meeting they will have.
bgwilkinson said:Tarheel Baptist said:Are we less spiritual or less 'Biblical' than those who do?
Why or why not?
As someone in the other thread intimated it is the churches that have the most services that are less biblical. ie. depend on works for salvation.
More services = works salvation
Less services = salvation by grace
Well that is what I got out of it.
So the church with just one service per week would be all of grace.
Liberty1 said:Tarheel Baptist said:I have no problem with those who have a Sunday evening service, of course.
But fail to find a Biblical mandate for such...or a Biblical foundation that it is wrong not to have one.
The Grammy Awards were on this past Sunday Night. The opening performance was "Highway to Hell."
If churches don't have evening services on Sunday night, there's always something else for them to see.
A Biblical foundation could be made for having church "daily, and in every house." I think the early church wasn't as concerned with how little they could meet - but how much.