Reactions to Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage

[rsc2a]

Can an argument be made for positive homosexual expression based on the entirety of Scripture? Negative?

On the same basis, why do you reject polygamy and allow for homosexual activity? (Morally, not civilly.)

 

[RAIDER]

I enjoy the debating with and postings of most everyone on the FFF.  We have different views on standards.  We have different views on convictions and preferences.  I accept that.  I have to admit that I find it very hard to stomach that there is not a 100% consensus on a Christian Forum that homosexuality is not Biblically wrong.  It's not even a gray area.

I understand that there are some who are on the "homosexuals should not be bullied or picked on" thought pattern.  I understand that some are on the "we need to love everybody" side of the coin.  I agree with you.  But for a person who claims to be a born again Christian to defend the act of homosexuality is beyond my Christian reasoning.  God help us. 

 

[praise_yeshua]

I never said there wasn't a difference. You're ignoring their similarities!!! Are you giving up or sticking around?

Giving up.    I understand your beliefs, I honestly do - I was raised with them myself.  I just came to believe differently.  I thought maybe there was something you were taught as "Biblical truth" at one point but eventually came to view differently.  I see I was wrong.  I surrender! 

I'm consider a blathering liberal by some. A no good fundamentalist by others. I don't fit in either world.

I pray you find peace. The God of all Comfort be with you!!!

 

[IFB X-Files]

I enjoy the debating with and postings of most everyone on the FFF.  We have different views on standards.  We have different views on convictions and preferences.  I accept that.  I have to admit that I find it very hard to stomach that there is not a 100% consensus on a Christian Forum that homosexuality is not Biblically wrong.  It's not even a gray area.

I understand that there are some who are on the "homosexuals should not be bullied or picked on" thought pattern.  I understand that some are on the "we need to love everybody" side of the coin.  I agree with you.  But for a person who claims to be a born again Christian to defend the act of homosexuality is beyond my Christian reasoning.  God help us.

^^^^  What he said.

 

[Least of These]

God help us.

Sorry to have made it necessary for you to call for help from above!

 

[praise_yeshua]

I enjoy the debating with and postings of most everyone on the FFF.  We have different views on standards.  We have different views on convictions and preferences.  I accept that.  I have to admit that I find it very hard to stomach that there is not a 100% consensus on a Christian Forum that homosexuality is not Biblically wrong.  It's not even a gray area.

I understand that there are some who are on the "homosexuals should not be bullied or picked on" thought pattern.  I understand that some are on the "we need to love everybody" side of the coin.  I agree with you.  But for a person who claims to be a born again Christian to defend the act of homosexuality is beyond my Christian reasoning.  God help us.

In thread Greenie!!!

 

[Bruh]

Not trying to be vulgar at all.

If you put a gay man in bed with a beautiful woman and that woman is willing to have with that gay man that was "born" gay that gay man will have sex with that beautiful woman.

Say what you want but that is the truth. And this is proof that it's a choice.

 

[RAIDER]

God help us.

Sorry to have made it necessary for you to call for help from above!

Believe me, I have spent a lot of time praying for our nation this week.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Can an argument be made for positive homosexual expression based on the entirety of Scripture? Negative?

On the same basis, why do you reject polygamy and allow for homosexual activity? (Morally, not civilly.)

Are you talking to me?

I mentioned I believe homosexuality to be an act of immorality which I believe would be sinful. I've stated that quite a few times. But I also believe that I could be wrong and will not criticize gay Christians for their SS relationships if they have done serious searching.

I believe that the SSM decision by SCOTUS was correct on the civil level but also indicated that they are not agents to issue in a theocracy.

Not sure why you thought otherwise.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Not trying to be vulgar at all.

If you put a gay man in bed with a beautiful woman and that woman is willing to have with that gay man that was "born" gay that gay man will have sex with that beautiful woman.

Say what you want but that is the truth. And this is proof that it's a choice.

So you as a straight man speak for all gay men on this issue?  :-\

 

[Least of These]

If you put a gay man in bed with a beautiful woman and that woman is willing to have with that gay man that was "born" gay that gay man will have sex with that beautiful woman.

Say what you want but that is the truth. And this is proof that it's a choice.

What?!?!    You can't be serious.  lol  Edited.  Sorry; that was rude.  I best walk away  now.  Have a great evening!

 

[Bruh]

Not trying to be vulgar at all.

If you put a gay man in bed with a beautiful woman and that woman is willing to have with that gay man that was "born" gay that gay man will have sex with that beautiful woman.

Say what you want but that is the truth. And this is proof that it's a choice.

So you as a straight man speak for all gay men on this issue?  :-\

Dude you are out of ur mind if you think otherwise.

 

[Bruh]

If you put a gay man in bed with a beautiful woman and that woman is willing to have with that gay man that was "born" gay that gay man will have sex with that beautiful woman.

Say what you want but that is the truth. And this is proof that it's a choice.

What?!?!    You can't be serious.  lol

I'm serious.

 

[rsc2a]

Can an argument be made for positive homosexual expression based on the entirety of Scripture? Negative?

On the same basis, why do you reject polygamy and allow for homosexual activity? (Morally, not civilly.)

Are you talking to me?

I mentioned I believe homosexuality to be an act of immorality which I believe would be sinful. I've stated that quite a few times. But I also believe that I could be wrong and will not criticize gay Christians for their SS relationships if they have done serious searching.

I believe that the SSM decision by SCOTUS was correct on the civil level but also indicated that they are not agents to issue in a theocracy.

Not sure why you thought otherwise.

Because you so readily offer apologetics on their behalf? Would you do the same for the advocate of slavery or child brides?

 

[Bruh]

If you put a gay man in bed with a beautiful woman and that woman is willing to have with that gay man that was "born" gay that gay man will have sex with that beautiful woman.

Say what you want but that is the truth. And this is proof that it's a choice.

What?!?!    You can't be serious.  lol  Edited.  Sorry; that was rude.  I best walk away  now.  Have a great evening!

No worries. You can't be offended if you are confident in the way you believe.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Can an argument be made for positive homosexual expression based on the entirety of Scripture? Negative?

On the same basis, why do you reject polygamy and allow for homosexual activity? (Morally, not civilly.)

Are you talking to me?

I mentioned I believe homosexuality to be an act of immorality which I believe would be sinful. I've stated that quite a few times. But I also believe that I could be wrong and will not criticize gay Christians for their SS relationships if they have done serious searching.

I believe that the SSM decision by SCOTUS was correct on the civil level but also indicated that they are not agents to issue in a theocracy.

Not sure why you thought otherwise.

Because you so readily offer apologetics on their behalf? Would you do the same for the advocate of slavery or child brides?

No I wouldn't. To link a forced dominance/submission situation (as is with both of your examples) to consensual same sex relationships is not even close to the same thing. They do not allow free will whereas consensual homosexuality does. Now NAMBLA and the like would be an entirely different ideal as they would also be victimizing children and I see absolutely NO defense for the intentional harming of children.

 

[rsc2a]

And yet you'd have an easier time defending my examples from scripture than homosexual activity...

 

[Smellin Coffee]

And yet you'd have an easier time defending my examples from scripture than homosexual activity...

That is correct. 

 

[subllibrm]

I am talking about the idea that we must accept the lifestyle. Christians insisting that we should overlook it.

I largely agree with you here expect fur the first sentence. Why are we as believers so concerned with judging the world? We should instead be looking inward, both corporately and individually...including the leaders with odd hermeneutical leaps.

This sentence? To clarify, the Christians I am referring to are those who have twisted scripture where they could and ignored it when they couldn't to excuse homosexual activity. The "Jesus never mentioned it" argument comes to mind. Smellin' is a prime example of this kind of thinking.

FWIW I don't believe that the church is to judge the souls of people. At the same time, we have a story to tell and it includes some pretty controversial information. How do we explain that sin separates us from God and not be able call sin, sin? Any sin. All sin.

FWIW 2 sin IN the church is what we are to judge, no question.

 

[subllibrm]

Desires for things God has forbidden are a reflection of how sin has distorted me, not how God has made me.

Outstanding! May I borrow this?