Roy Moore

[prophet]

I want proof that he did anything?  He is being accused it needs to be addressed.

He denied knowing the one woman but had written in her year book.

Ever signed a Bible?  Ever signed one for a young girl?  Yes?  Well, don't ever run for public office!

So what if he signed it?  Why wouldn't he if asked?  Now I agree that the "DA" and the writing underneath looks added.

Glad he's fighting back.

I would not have signed a teenage girl's yearbook as a 30 year old man. I would never had written to the message he wrote as a 30 year old man to a teenage girl.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter. We elected a man for President that had 14 accusers and stated he CENSORED. Why would a we care about a senator who had inappropriate relationships with a teenage girl.

Not appropriate, my friend.

I understand where you're coming from but in his defense, he's only quoting the President.

"misquoting"...

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Please quote correctly then.

Why don't you provide the context, and the actual quote?

Afraid that if you didn't mischaracterize and misquote, that the general perception would be that this was no where near tantamount to sexual assault and rape?

If I found out that someone said privately, about my daughter, what Trump said to the guy next to him, I wouldn't be able to prosecute him for it...it is distasteful but not criminal.

As a Christian, I look at him as lost.
I don't expect Christlikeness.
I don't expect him to say anything like this^^^ publicly, either.



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[LongGone]

I want proof that he did anything?  He is being accused it needs to be addressed.

He denied knowing the one woman but had written in her year book.

Ever signed a Bible?  Ever signed one for a young girl?  Yes?  Well, don't ever run for public office!

So what if he signed it?  Why wouldn't he if asked?  Now I agree that the "DA" and the writing underneath looks added.

Glad he's fighting back.

I would not have signed a teenage girl's yearbook as a 30 year old man. I would never had written to the message he wrote as a 30 year old man to a teenage girl.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter. We elected a man for President that had 14 accusers and stated he CENSORED. Why would a we care about a senator who had inappropriate relationships with a teenage girl.

Not appropriate, my friend.

I understand where you're coming from but in his defense, he's only quoting the President.

"misquoting"...

Sent from my H1611 using Tapatalk

Please quote correctly then.

Why don't you provide the context, and the actual quote?

Afraid that if you didn't mischaracterize and misquote, that the general perception would be that this was no where near tantamount to sexual assault and rape?

If I found out that someone said privately, about my daughter, what Trump said to the guy next to him, I wouldn't be able to prosecute him for it...it is distasteful but not criminal.

As a Christian, I look at him as lost.
I don't expect Christlikeness.
I don't expect him to say anything like this^^^ publicly, either.



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You are the one saying I misquoted so I am not sure why you wouldn't be providing the correct quote but I will play along with your game.

On Access Hollywood footage Trump talked in graphic terms about how easy it was for celebs like himself to seduce women, even saying "Grab them by the (censored by KJV1611). You can do anything.

I still find it hilarious that one can be offended by the quote being repeated to illustrate a point but voted for the man for President who originally stated it. This maybe why the Republican Party takes Evangelicals and Fundamentalists for granted. It appears their faith stops where their politics starts.

 

[ALAYMAN]

I still find it hilarious that one can be offended by the quote being repeated to illustrate a point but voted for the man for President who originally stated it. This maybe why the Republican Party takes Evangelicals and Fundamentalists for granted. It appears their faith stops where their politics starts.

Who did you vote for LG?  Surely it wasn't Hillary was it?



To a state trooper-bodyguard in Arkansas who greeted her with a cheerful ?Good morning,? as recounted in Christopher Anderson?s book, ?American Evita?: ?F- off! It?s enough I have to see you s? kickers every day. I?m not going to talk to you, too. Just do your g-damn job and keep your mouth shut.?



lol

 

[prophet]

I want proof that he did anything?  He is being accused it needs to be addressed.

He denied knowing the one woman but had written in her year book.

Ever signed a Bible?  Ever signed one for a young girl?  Yes?  Well, don't ever run for public office!

So what if he signed it?  Why wouldn't he if asked?  Now I agree that the "DA" and the writing underneath looks added.

Glad he's fighting back.

I would not have signed a teenage girl's yearbook as a 30 year old man. I would never had written to the message he wrote as a 30 year old man to a teenage girl.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter. We elected a man for President that had 14 accusers and stated he CENSORED. Why would a we care about a senator who had inappropriate relationships with a teenage girl.

Not appropriate, my friend.

I understand where you're coming from but in his defense, he's only quoting the President.

"misquoting"...

Sent from my H1611 using Tapatalk

Please quote correctly then.

Why don't you provide the context, and the actual quote?

Afraid that if you didn't mischaracterize and misquote, that the general perception would be that this was no where near tantamount to sexual assault and rape?

If I found out that someone said privately, about my daughter, what Trump said to the guy next to him, I wouldn't be able to prosecute him for it...it is distasteful but not criminal.

As a Christian, I look at him as lost.
I don't expect Christlikeness.
I don't expect him to say anything like this^^^ publicly, either.



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You are the one saying I misquoted so I am not sure why you wouldn't be providing the correct quote but I will play along with your game.

On Access Hollywood footage Trump talked in graphic terms about how easy it was for celebs like himself to seduce women, even saying "Grab them by the (censored by KJV1611). You can do anything.

I still find it hilarious that one can be offended by the quote being repeated to illustrate a point but voted for the man for President who originally stated it. This maybe why the Republican Party takes Evangelicals and Fundamentalists for granted. It appears their faith stops where their politics starts.

The last paragraph of your post was what you wanted to say.
You aren't very good at steering the conversation towards your goal.
None of you Soc's ever are.
So, you jump around shouting talking points and declaring victory, as if anyone here actually fit the Antichrist media narrative.

Since you can't find anyone to fit your fictitious cookie-cutter strawmam mold, you just slammed a star down on a round sugar cookie, and left a mess.

I don't think you have the ability to think outside of the DNC formula that you're being nursed with.
There is a world of views outside of the hardcore socialist American left. 
You represent a side that either rejects God, or remakes god (same thing), by constantly preaching their narrative.
Whereas, there isn't anyone here defending Trump's lasciviousness.

Of course, if I brought up the fact that the previous Pres was a queer druggie prostitute, forced to relinquish his law license, and who never had an actual job in his life, somehow I'd be ...what, wrong?...

If I brought up the fact that Clinton is actually a known rapist, who has been disbarred in his home state for perjury, and was impeached for lying under oath while the sitting Pres, .... I'm, what, a political hack?

If you were defending the Republicans, I'd bring up the list of swine in their swamp, so don't bother accusing me of picking that side.
Gingritch, Hastert, tap-tap, etc.



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[LongGone]

I still find it hilarious that one can be offended by the quote being repeated to illustrate a point but voted for the man for President who originally stated it. This maybe why the Republican Party takes Evangelicals and Fundamentalists for granted. It appears their faith stops where their politics starts.

Who did you vote for LG?  Surely it wasn't Hillary was it?






To a state trooper-bodyguard in Arkansas who greeted her with a cheerful ?Good morning,? as recounted in Christopher Anderson?s book, ?American Evita?: ?F- off! It?s enough I have to see you s? kickers every day. I?m not going to talk to you, too. Just do your g-damn job and keep your mouth shut.?



lol

Nice article by a right wing source. Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women and being recorded saying what Trump said. 

 

[LongGone]

I want proof that he did anything?  He is being accused it needs to be addressed.

He denied knowing the one woman but had written in her year book.

Ever signed a Bible?  Ever signed one for a young girl?  Yes?  Well, don't ever run for public office!

So what if he signed it?  Why wouldn't he if asked?  Now I agree that the "DA" and the writing underneath looks added.

Glad he's fighting back.

I would not have signed a teenage girl's yearbook as a 30 year old man. I would never had written to the message he wrote as a 30 year old man to a teenage girl.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter. We elected a man for President that had 14 accusers and stated he CENSORED. Why would a we care about a senator who had inappropriate relationships with a teenage girl.

Not appropriate, my friend.

I understand where you're coming from but in his defense, he's only quoting the President.

"misquoting"...

Sent from my H1611 using Tapatalk

Please quote correctly then.

Why don't you provide the context, and the actual quote?

Afraid that if you didn't mischaracterize and misquote, that the general perception would be that this was no where near tantamount to sexual assault and rape?

If I found out that someone said privately, about my daughter, what Trump said to the guy next to him, I wouldn't be able to prosecute him for it...it is distasteful but not criminal.

As a Christian, I look at him as lost.
I don't expect Christlikeness.
I don't expect him to say anything like this^^^ publicly, either.



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You are the one saying I misquoted so I am not sure why you wouldn't be providing the correct quote but I will play along with your game.

On Access Hollywood footage Trump talked in graphic terms about how easy it was for celebs like himself to seduce women, even saying "Grab them by the (censored by KJV1611). You can do anything.

I still find it hilarious that one can be offended by the quote being repeated to illustrate a point but voted for the man for President who originally stated it. This maybe why the Republican Party takes Evangelicals and Fundamentalists for granted. It appears their faith stops where their politics starts.

The last paragraph of your post was what you wanted to say.
You aren't very good at steering the conversation towards your goal.
None of you Soc's ever are.
So, you jump around shouting talking points and declaring victory, as if anyone here actually fit the Antichrist media narrative.

Since you can't find anyone to fit your fictitious cookie-cutter strawmam mold, you just slammed a star down on a round sugar cookie, and left a mess.

I don't think you have the ability to think outside of the DNC formula that you're being nursed with.
There is a world of views outside of the hardcore socialist American left. 
You represent a side that either rejects God, or remakes god (same thing), by constantly preaching their narrative.
Whereas, there isn't anyone here defending Trump's lasciviousness.

Of course, if I brought up the fact that the previous Pres was a queer druggie prostitute, forced to relinquish his law license, and who never had an actual job in his life, somehow I'd be ...what, wrong?...

If I brought up the fact that Clinton is actually a known rapist, who has been disbarred in his home state for perjury, and was impeached for lying under oath while the sitting Pres, .... I'm, what, a political hack?

If you were defending the Republicans, I'd bring up the list of swine in their swamp, so don't bother accusing me of picking that side.
Gingritch, Hastert, tap-tap, etc.



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Considering that making sense out of your post is quite the challenge then you telling I am not hitting my goal doesn't seem so bad.

Don't see anywhere that I declared victory.

You can accuse me of using DNC talking points but all I see is you using RNC talking points. For instance you excusing Trump's quote because it was not actually criminal.

You represent a side that tends to equate God, County and the Republican as one in the same. Jesus really wasn't a Republican. By defending Trump and calling me a socialist you really are picking that side.  You are illogical debater to say that I don't take any sides.

I have no idea what you are rambling about with the previous President.

You haven't seen me defending the behavior of Bill Clinton so I am not sure why it is relevant. But since you brought it up when was Bill Clinton convicted of rape?

With your limited ability to post something logical I doubt the Republicans or Democrats want them defending them anyhow

 

[ALAYMAN]

Nice article by a right wing source. Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women and being recorded saying what Trump said.

I'll take that as you're okay with blasphemy in your politics, so long as it's the other ox who's being gored.


lol

 

[qwerty]

Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women ....

I agree, the Clinton's are perverts and unfit for office.

 

[prophet]

I want proof that he did anything?  He is being accused it needs to be addressed.

He denied knowing the one woman but had written in her year book.

Ever signed a Bible?  Ever signed one for a young girl?  Yes?  Well, don't ever run for public office!

So what if he signed it?  Why wouldn't he if asked?  Now I agree that the "DA" and the writing underneath looks added.

Glad he's fighting back.

I would not have signed a teenage girl's yearbook as a 30 year old man. I would never had written to the message he wrote as a 30 year old man to a teenage girl.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter. We elected a man for President that had 14 accusers and stated he CENSORED. Why would a we care about a senator who had inappropriate relationships with a teenage girl.

Not appropriate, my friend.

I understand where you're coming from but in his defense, he's only quoting the President.

"misquoting"...

Sent from my H1611 using Tapatalk

Please quote correctly then.

Why don't you provide the context, and the actual quote?

Afraid that if you didn't mischaracterize and misquote, that the general perception would be that this was no where near tantamount to sexual assault and rape?

If I found out that someone said privately, about my daughter, what Trump said to the guy next to him, I wouldn't be able to prosecute him for it...it is distasteful but not criminal.

As a Christian, I look at him as lost.
I don't expect Christlikeness.
I don't expect him to say anything like this^^^ publicly, either.



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You are the one saying I misquoted so I am not sure why you wouldn't be providing the correct quote but I will play along with your game.

On Access Hollywood footage Trump talked in graphic terms about how easy it was for celebs like himself to seduce women, even saying "Grab them by the (censored by KJV1611). You can do anything.

I still find it hilarious that one can be offended by the quote being repeated to illustrate a point but voted for the man for President who originally stated it. This maybe why the Republican Party takes Evangelicals and Fundamentalists for granted. It appears their faith stops where their politics starts.

The last paragraph of your post was what you wanted to say.
You aren't very good at steering the conversation towards your goal.
None of you Soc's ever are.
So, you jump around shouting talking points and declaring victory, as if anyone here actually fit the Antichrist media narrative.

Since you can't find anyone to fit your fictitious cookie-cutter strawmam mold, you just slammed a star down on a round sugar cookie, and left a mess.

I don't think you have the ability to think outside of the DNC formula that you're being nursed with.
There is a world of views outside of the hardcore socialist American left. 
You represent a side that either rejects God, or remakes god (same thing), by constantly preaching their narrative.
Whereas, there isn't anyone here defending Trump's lasciviousness.

Of course, if I brought up the fact that the previous Pres was a queer druggie prostitute, forced to relinquish his law license, and who never had an actual job in his life, somehow I'd be ...what, wrong?...

If I brought up the fact that Clinton is actually a known rapist, who has been disbarred in his home state for perjury, and was impeached for lying under oath while the sitting Pres, .... I'm, what, a political hack?

If you were defending the Republicans, I'd bring up the list of swine in their swamp, so don't bother accusing me of picking that side.
Gingritch, Hastert, tap-tap, etc.



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Considering that making sense out of your post is quite the challenge then you telling I am not hitting my goal doesn't seem so bad.

Don't see anywhere that I declared victory.

You can accuse me of using DNC talking points but all I see is you using RNC talking points. For instance you excusing Trump's quote because it was not actually criminal.

You represent a side that tends to equate God, County and the Republican as one in the same. Jesus really wasn't a Republican. By defending Trump and calling me a socialist you really are picking that side.  You are illogical debater to say that I don't take any sides.

I have no idea what you are rambling about with the previous President.

You haven't seen me defending the behavior of Bill Clinton so I am not sure why it is relevant. But since you brought it up when was Bill Clinton convicted of rape?

With your limited ability to post something logical I doubt the Republicans or Democrats want them defending them anyhow

Just wading through the grammatical errors in this post has me worn out.

You aren't the most literate fella, and it kinda shows in your worldview.

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[prophet]

Anyone who thinks that the RNC is in line with Trump, has their head buried in the sand, and isn't paying attention.

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[LongGone]

Nice article by a right wing source. Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women and being recorded saying what Trump said.

I'll take that as you're okay with blasphemy in your politics, so long as it's the other ox who's being gored.


lol

It is good you can laugh at yourself because based on your post you probably aren't the only one.

The standard should be the same no matter which side. I don't doubt Hillary was difficult to work with but the story you posted may or may not be true. Even if it is true it is not as problematic as the 16 women that were alleged that Trump sexually harassed them. Since we have no issue with electing Trump as President does any of this really matter?

 

[LongGone]

Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women ....

I agree, the Clinton's are perverts and unfit for office.

Based on that statement I take it you believe that Trump is also unfit for office.

 

[LongGone]

I want proof that he did anything?  He is being accused it needs to be addressed.

He denied knowing the one woman but had written in her year book.

Ever signed a Bible?  Ever signed one for a young girl?  Yes?  Well, don't ever run for public office!

So what if he signed it?  Why wouldn't he if asked?  Now I agree that the "DA" and the writing underneath looks added.

Glad he's fighting back.

I would not have signed a teenage girl's yearbook as a 30 year old man. I would never had written to the message he wrote as a 30 year old man to a teenage girl.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter. We elected a man for President that had 14 accusers and stated he CENSORED. Why would a we care about a senator who had inappropriate relationships with a teenage girl.

Not appropriate, my friend.

I understand where you're coming from but in his defense, he's only quoting the President.

"misquoting"...

Sent from my H1611 using Tapatalk

Please quote correctly then.

Why don't you provide the context, and the actual quote?

Afraid that if you didn't mischaracterize and misquote, that the general perception would be that this was no where near tantamount to sexual assault and rape?

If I found out that someone said privately, about my daughter, what Trump said to the guy next to him, I wouldn't be able to prosecute him for it...it is distasteful but not criminal.

As a Christian, I look at him as lost.
I don't expect Christlikeness.
I don't expect him to say anything like this^^^ publicly, either.



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You are the one saying I misquoted so I am not sure why you wouldn't be providing the correct quote but I will play along with your game.

On Access Hollywood footage Trump talked in graphic terms about how easy it was for celebs like himself to seduce women, even saying "Grab them by the (censored by KJV1611). You can do anything.

I still find it hilarious that one can be offended by the quote being repeated to illustrate a point but voted for the man for President who originally stated it. This maybe why the Republican Party takes Evangelicals and Fundamentalists for granted. It appears their faith stops where their politics starts.

The last paragraph of your post was what you wanted to say.
You aren't very good at steering the conversation towards your goal.
None of you Soc's ever are.
So, you jump around shouting talking points and declaring victory, as if anyone here actually fit the Antichrist media narrative.

Since you can't find anyone to fit your fictitious cookie-cutter strawmam mold, you just slammed a star down on a round sugar cookie, and left a mess.

I don't think you have the ability to think outside of the DNC formula that you're being nursed with.
There is a world of views outside of the hardcore socialist American left. 
You represent a side that either rejects God, or remakes god (same thing), by constantly preaching their narrative.
Whereas, there isn't anyone here defending Trump's lasciviousness.

Of course, if I brought up the fact that the previous Pres was a queer druggie prostitute, forced to relinquish his law license, and who never had an actual job in his life, somehow I'd be ...what, wrong?...

If I brought up the fact that Clinton is actually a known rapist, who has been disbarred in his home state for perjury, and was impeached for lying under oath while the sitting Pres, .... I'm, what, a political hack?

If you were defending the Republicans, I'd bring up the list of swine in their swamp, so don't bother accusing me of picking that side.
Gingritch, Hastert, tap-tap, etc.



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Considering that making sense out of your post is quite the challenge then you telling I am not hitting my goal doesn't seem so bad.

Don't see anywhere that I declared victory.

You can accuse me of using DNC talking points but all I see is you using RNC talking points. For instance you excusing Trump's quote because it was not actually criminal.

You represent a side that tends to equate God, County and the Republican as one in the same. Jesus really wasn't a Republican. By defending Trump and calling me a socialist you really are picking that side.  You are illogical debater to say that I don't take any sides.

I have no idea what you are rambling about with the previous President.

You haven't seen me defending the behavior of Bill Clinton so I am not sure why it is relevant. But since you brought it up when was Bill Clinton convicted of rape?

With your limited ability to post something logical I doubt the Republicans or Democrats want them defending them anyhow

Just wading through the grammatical errors in this post has me worn out.

You aren't the most literate fella, and it kinda shows in your worldview.

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Coming from a guy who regularly makes posts that are incoherent it is hard to be insulted.  It is a little comical that the man who is criticizing grammar uses the words fella and kinda I know...you were just being funny. It failed.

 

[qwerty]

Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women ....

I agree, the Clinton's are perverts and unfit for office.

Based on that statement I take it you believe that Trump is also unfit for office.

Well... If we were to put it up for a vote....

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women ....

I agree, the Clinton's are perverts and unfit for office.

Based on that statement I take it you believe that Trump is also unfit for office.

Well... If we were to put it up for a vote....

And the majority would take Hillary. In fact, they did...

 

[Smellin Coffee]

I want proof that he did anything?  He is being accused it needs to be addressed.

In addition to accusations of sexual assault and harassment toward Roy Moore by 9 women who were young girls at the time, his predatory behavior was reported by 2 former police officers, 5 members of legal community, and many former mall workers & customers. Are all of them lying? Why would that many people risk public humiliation and death threats for a lie?

 

[qwerty]

Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women ....

I agree, the Clinton's are perverts and unfit for office.

Based on that statement I take it you believe that Trump is also unfit for office.

Well... If we were to put it up for a vote....

And the majority would take Hillary. In fact, they did...

I guess that continues to prove that most liberals do to not understand how a presidential election works. It is unfortunate to see this in a modern society when there are so many resources available, but they time and time again have diarrhea of the mouth proclaiming their ineptitude and making stupid statements. 

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women ....

I agree, the Clinton's are perverts and unfit for office.

Based on that statement I take it you believe that Trump is also unfit for office.

Well... If we were to put it up for a vote....

And the majority would take Hillary. In fact, they did...

I guess that continues to prove that most liberals do to not understand how a presidential election works. It is unfortunate to see this in a modern society when there are so many resources available, but they time and time again have diarrhea of the mouth proclaiming their ineptitude and making stupid statements.

I didn't realize your hypothetical vote was run through an Electoral College. I'm sure you wouldn't mind as it devalues the votes of urban voters. Wouldn't be surprised you've run your poll through Russian collusion and created gerrymandering.

#WhiteVotesMatterMore

 

[qwerty]

Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women ....

I agree, the Clinton's are perverts and unfit for office.

Based on that statement I take it you believe that Trump is also unfit for office.

Well... If we were to put it up for a vote....

And the majority would take Hillary. In fact, they did...

I guess that continues to prove that most liberals do to not understand how a presidential election works. It is unfortunate to see this in a modern society when there are so many resources available, but they time and time again have diarrhea of the mouth proclaiming their ineptitude and making stupid statements.

I didn't realize your hypothetical vote was run through an Electoral College. I'm sure you wouldn't mind as it devalues the votes of urban voters. Wouldn't be surprised you've run your poll through Russian collusion and created gerrymandering.

#WhiteVotesMatterMore

Waaaah..... Stuck it up buttercup and pop a couple more zoloft to cope.  Those have been the rules for the elections before this one, but only now it's a problem....

You don't give a flip about urban voters. They are tokens to you. If the urban voters really mattered, you would address the leading cause of black male deaths instead of deflecting and making excuses for failed liberal policies.  Once the Democrats are back in charge, they will be content with more welfare, obama phones and housing to keep them quiet until they serve your purpose again.

 

[LongGone]

Hardly compares to being accused of sexual harassment by multiple women ....

I agree, the Clinton's are perverts and unfit for office.

Based on that statement I take it you believe that Trump is also unfit for office.

Well... If we were to put it up for a vote....

And the majority would take Hillary. In fact, they did...

I guess that continues to prove that most liberals do to not understand how a presidential election works. It is unfortunate to see this in a modern society when there are so many resources available, but they time and time again have diarrhea of the mouth proclaiming their ineptitude and making stupid statements.

I am not sure your generalization that most liberals do not understand how a presidential election is over reaching. If Republicans has won the popular vote and lost the electoral college you would hear the same issues.

In 2000 Bush won the electoral but not the popular there were pundits who thought the opposite would happen with Bush winning the popular vote but Gore winning the electoral college. Had that happen I can not see Republicans being happy.

You can understand how the system works but believe the popular should be counted rather than the electoral college. Smellin had demonstrated several times he understands but does not agree with the system.

I am a Democrat who still believes we should use the electoral college. I believe without the electoral college there would never be reason for a candidate to campaign anywhere but urban areas and consequently only address urban issues.

The candidates would never care how people in small states would vote when there are urban areas with many more votes. The electoral college allows any state to be a swing state. It forces candidates to focus on making sure they are reaching enough people everywhere to get the needed electoral college votes.  It doesn't always turn out the way I would want as a Democrat but I think it is a wise system.

I really don't think that liberals understand the electoral college any less than conservatives.