So, what kind of a HAC student were you?

[patriotic]

I had considered nursing school, so I did not go to HAC until a year after high school.  My parents were faithful, godly servants who taught us the Word of God.  Not only did they teach it to us, they SHOWED us from God's Word why we believed what we believed. 

As a result, I was never into the man worship or the "whatever preacher says" mentality. I did join and remain faithful to the bus ministry all four years (and I still am in the bus ministry today).  Once when my bus captain  - on the trip to Chicago - said one too many times, "Brother Hyles says such and such, ", I responded with, "So?  What does the Bible say?  Brother Hyles isn't God."  Yes, there were audible gasps from the captain and other workers.  He paused and replied with something about my being right.  I said,  "No, God is right, and here is what the Bible says. "  In this incident, Brother Hyles and the Bible were in total agreement, but I knew what the Bible said, while most of them were relying on what Brother Hyles said. 

Again, I did join the bus ministry.  I had been to CW Spectacular several times prior to going to college, and the PC - great organization that it might be - always had those clappy-happy-clappy presentations every single year that were way too long and drove me nuts.  I was NOT joining PC.  I also worked in the Sunbeam Department all four years.  (My experience there is what gave me the extreme patience I show toward RAIDER.)  I loved both the bus ministry and Sunbeams. 

I did not date only bus workers.  In fact, I ended up marrying what bus workers would have called a deadbeat.  He left the bus ministry to join the youth ministry.

I obeyed most rules and - most of the time - the spirit of the rules.  Sure, there were times I took chances, but I also was an adult, and realized if I made the decision to break the rules, then I had better be adult enough to pay the consequences. After all, I had signed my name to keep the rules, so I tried to do so.  What good is my name if my word means nothing.  I believe in eight semesters, there was but one in which I reached 25 demerits. 

I enjoyed nearly every minute of my college life.  I decided to do so.  I remain in contact with several of my roommates through the years.  I have also reconnected with some of the finest people I know through this and the older forum.  Swamphag is a true, dear friend as well as kaba and a few others.  (When we were freshmen, kaba and I lived almost directly across the hall from each other.)

Oh, and I got pretty good grades too, although I lost some GPA due to financial withdrawal.

 

[kaba]

I had considered nursing school, so I did not go to HAC until a year after high school.  My parents were faithful, godly servants who taught us the Word of God.  Not only did they teach it to us, they SHOWED us from God's Word why we believed what we believed. 

As a result, I was never into the man worship or the "whatever preacher says" mentality. I did join and remain faithful to the bus ministry all four years (and I still am in the bus ministry today).  Once when my bus captain  - on the trip to Chicago - said one too many times, "Brother Hyles says such and such, ", I responded with, "So?  What does the Bible say?  Brother Hyles isn't God."  Yes, there were audible gasps from the captain and other workers.  He paused and replied with something about my being right.  I said,  "No, God is right, and here is what the Bible says. "  In this incident, Brother Hyles and the Bible were in total agreement, but I knew what the Bible said, while most of them were relying on what Brother Hyles said. 

Again, I did join the bus ministry.  I had been to CW Spectacular several times prior to going to college, and the PC - great organization that it might be - always had those clappy-happy-clappy presentations every single year that were way too long and drove me nuts.  I was NOT joining PC.  I also worked in the Sunbeam Department all four years.  (My experience there is what gave me the extreme patience I show toward RAIDER.)  I loved both the bus ministry and Sunbeams. 

I did not date only bus workers.  In fact, I ended up marrying what bus workers would have called a deadbeat.  He left the bus ministry to join the youth ministry.

I obeyed most rules and - most of the time - the spirit of the rules.  Sure, there were times I took chances, but I also was an adult, and realized if I made the decision to break the rules, then I had better be adult enough to pay the consequences. After all, I had signed my name to keep the rules, so I tried to do so.  What good is my name if my word means nothing.  I believe in eight semesters, there was but one in which I reached 25 demerits. 

I enjoyed nearly every minute of my college life.  I decided to do so.  I remain in contact with several of my roommates through the years.  I have also reconnected with some of the finest people I know through this and the older forum.  Swamphag is a true, dear friend as well as kaba and a few others.  (When we were freshmen, kaba and I lived almost directly across the hall from each other.)

Oh, and I got pretty good grades too, although I lost some GPA due to financial withdrawal.

You always had a smile on your face! I remember you very well. AND you bleed blue!!

 

[nightbusheretic14]

I was the person who obeyed most of the rules even though I didnt agree with a lot of them. I was the student who never really fit in. People thought I was weird, so when I tried to converse in the dining hall, it was hard to carry a conversation with anyone. So I developed a habit of sitting alone in the dining hall. Even in college chapel I felt out of place because there really wasn't someone or a group that I hung out with all the time. So I developed a habit of sitting in the very back of chapel by myself.

 

[kaba]

I was the person who obeyed most of the rules even though I didnt agree with a lot of them. I was the student who never really fit in. People thought I was weird, so when I tried to converse in the dining hall, it was hard to carry a conversation with anyone. So I developed a habit of sitting alone in the dining hall. Even in college chapel I felt out of place because there really wasn't someone or a group that I hung out with all the time. So I developed a habit of sitting in the very back of chapel by myself.

I am sorry. What years were you there?

 

[RAIDER]

I have also reconnected with some of the finest people I know through this and the older forum.

"Thank you, please, Patriotic, be seated.  Thank you.  Yes, I appreciate it, but please be seated, Patriotic."

 

[kaba]

The last year of school, I was a married student. My husband worked two jobs. Left about 5 in the morning for Chicago for a brinks job, and then when he was done, he would go to UPS for his other job, and get home about 10 or 11. I had to catch a ride to school, and normally I did not have a dollar for lunch, I would sit in the foyer until my ride was ready to go home about 3:00. I remember sitting there hungry most days.

 

[RAIDER]

Looking back on it, I know Roger (and his followers) were rather mean to those that did not get the results they did, or did not visit like they did. But I liked working on his bus and if DRHAC hadnt falsely accused him of something he might still be on facebook, and I could still be in touch with him.

That's what shocked me so much.  I was getting the results they desired and I did visit like they did.  It was as if he thought he was offering me the greatest prize in the world and I would not agree to stay for the summer.  At that point I made it onto his "list".

 

[kaba]

Looking back on it, I know Roger (and his followers) were rather mean to those that did not get the results they did, or did not visit like they did. But I liked working on his bus and if DRHAC hadnt falsely accused him of something he might still be on facebook, and I could still be in touch with him.

That's what shocked me so much.  I was getting the results they desired and I did visit like they did.  It was as if he thought he was offering me the greatest prize in the world and I would not agree to stay for the summer.  At that point I made it onto his "list".

I saw the pressure that you guys had. Nightbus pressure, giving your money to the bus route and big days. He could be pretty cold hearted. But I never felt it.

 

[nightbusheretic14]

I was the person who obeyed most of the rules even though I didnt agree with a lot of them. I was the student who never really fit in. People thought I was weird, so when I tried to converse in the dining hall, it was hard to carry a conversation with anyone. So I developed a habit of sitting alone in the dining hall. Even in college chapel I felt out of place because there really wasn't someone or a group that I hung out with all the time. So I developed a habit of sitting in the very back of chapel by myself.

I am sorry. What years were you there?

I was there pretty recent. I won't say what years, but very recent.

 

[RAIDER]

I was the person who obeyed most of the rules even though I didnt agree with a lot of them. I was the student who never really fit in. People thought I was weird, so when I tried to converse in the dining hall, it was hard to carry a conversation with anyone. So I developed a habit of sitting alone in the dining hall. Even in college chapel I felt out of place because there really wasn't someone or a group that I hung out with all the time. So I developed a habit of sitting in the very back of chapel by myself.

I am sorry. What years were you there?

I was there pretty recent. I won't say what years, but very recent.

Yes, if you tell us the years everyone on the FFF will know exactly who you are. 

 

[nightbusheretic14]

I was the person who obeyed most of the rules even though I didnt agree with a lot of them. I was the student who never really fit in. People thought I was weird, so when I tried to converse in the dining hall, it was hard to carry a conversation with anyone. So I developed a habit of sitting alone in the dining hall. Even in college chapel I felt out of place because there really wasn't someone or a group that I hung out with all the time. So I developed a habit of sitting in the very back of chapel by myself.

I am sorry. What years were you there?

I was there pretty recent. I won't say what years, but very recent.

Yes, if you tell us the years everyone on the FFF will know exactly who you are. 

And I am pretty sure there is someone on this forum who has been to HAC for the last 3-5 years.

 

[RAIDER]

I was the person who obeyed most of the rules even though I didnt agree with a lot of them. I was the student who never really fit in. People thought I was weird, so when I tried to converse in the dining hall, it was hard to carry a conversation with anyone. So I developed a habit of sitting alone in the dining hall. Even in college chapel I felt out of place because there really wasn't someone or a group that I hung out with all the time. So I developed a habit of sitting in the very back of chapel by myself.

I am sorry. What years were you there?

I was there pretty recent. I won't say what years, but very recent.

Yes, if you tell us the years everyone on the FFF will know exactly who you are. 

And I am pretty sure there is someone on this forum who has been to HAC for the last 3-5 years.

So why the hold back on telling us the years you attended HAC?  It helps us in knowing what time period you existed.

 

[nightbusheretic14]

I was the person who obeyed most of the rules even though I didnt agree with a lot of them. I was the student who never really fit in. People thought I was weird, so when I tried to converse in the dining hall, it was hard to carry a conversation with anyone. So I developed a habit of sitting alone in the dining hall. Even in college chapel I felt out of place because there really wasn't someone or a group that I hung out with all the time. So I developed a habit of sitting in the very back of chapel by myself.

I am sorry. What years were you there?

I was there pretty recent. I won't say what years, but very recent.

Yes, if you tell us the years everyone on the FFF will know exactly who you are. 

And I am pretty sure there is someone on this forum who has been to HAC for the last 3-5 years.

So why the hold back on telling us the years you attended HAC?  It helps us in knowing what time period you existed.

I finished in 2013

 

[RAIDER]

Let's turn back the clock.  Let's go back to your days as a HAC student.  Let's start with your freshman year and work our way to graduation (if you made it that far). 

I'm not just asking about grades.  I'm not just asking about ministries.  Feel free to add that information if you like.  I'm wondering how you behaved.  I'm wondering about your adherence to the rules.  I'm asking about your attitude.  I'm asking about your perspective of HAC/FBCH while you were there.  What were you like as a student?

I realize this will probably take a few posts from most.  It will take some thinking.  Remember, you must throw away your current feelings about HAC/FBCH and put yourself back as a college student.  Let's go back, have some fun, and find out who you were.

In my first post I described my freshman year.  Things changed for me at the end of that year.  I was in Division 5 which was Roger Casteel's division.  As I mentioned, I was extremely faithful as a bus worker.  Toward the end of the year Casteel asked my if I would consider being a bus captain.  He informed me that I would need to stay during the summer if I wanted that "position".  That wasn't going to happen, so I declined.  Casteel's demeanor toward me changed.  I couldn't believe it.  He became a bit of a jerk.  It was at that point that I determined that I was going to try another ministry the following year.

My sophomore year I joined the Youth Bible Club Ministry.  It was fantastic!  We would meet at the youth building on Saturday morning and head to our Bible Club area.  We had a new area and were able to get a good group together every Saturday.  We saw great growth and it was very enjoyable.  We actually got back to college in time to enjoy an activity if we so chose.

That was probably the single greatest decision that I made at HAC.  From that point on I told others that I would not join the bus ministry my first year.  Get to know people and find a normal bus captain and join his route.

Let's just say that by my junior year I had figured out "the ropes".  I would never have considered myself a rebel looking for rules to break.  I had pretty good common sense, but took my chances here and there.

I was never campussed during my 4 years at HAC.  I can still hear students saying, "You had to have been campussed.  There is no way".  I would always respond, "Hey, I have some common sense.  You have to decide not to be stupid". 

I enjoyed HAC much more my junior and senior years.  I had a good group of friends.  I knew who the stinkin' Hackers were.  I had a job that I worked with several of my friends.  I knew which staff members were looking to give demerits.  I kept the rebels at an arm length.

All three of my roommates got expelled within 2 weeks of each other (for separate infractions).  I can still remember Duke Morales coming into the room and saying, "I don't know how you did it, but you are the only one left".  I looked at him and said, "I didn't do anything stupid".  He smiled and walked out the door.

We worked, played a lot of basketball and ping pong, studied when we needed to, and hung out in the honored halls of learning.  We had a blast! 

 

[RAIDER]

I was the person who obeyed most of the rules even though I didnt agree with a lot of them. I was the student who never really fit in. People thought I was weird, so when I tried to converse in the dining hall, it was hard to carry a conversation with anyone. So I developed a habit of sitting alone in the dining hall. Even in college chapel I felt out of place because there really wasn't someone or a group that I hung out with all the time. So I developed a habit of sitting in the very back of chapel by myself.

I am sorry. What years were you there?

I was there pretty recent. I won't say what years, but very recent.

Yes, if you tell us the years everyone on the FFF will know exactly who you are. 

And I am pretty sure there is someone on this forum who has been to HAC for the last 3-5 years.

So why the hold back on telling us the years you attended HAC?  It helps us in knowing what time period you existed.

I finished in 2013

Thanks for the info!  It's nice to have a "newer student" among our ranks.  You can add a unique perspective on things.

 

[patriotic]

I was the person who obeyed most of the rules even though I didnt agree with a lot of them. I was the student who never really fit in. People thought I was weird, so when I tried to converse in the dining hall, it was hard to carry a conversation with anyone. So I developed a habit of sitting alone in the dining hall. Even in college chapel I felt out of place because there really wasn't someone or a group that I hung out with all the time. So I developed a habit of sitting in the very back of chapel by myself.

I am sorry. What years were you there?

I was there pretty recent. I won't say what years, but very recent.

Yes, if you tell us the years everyone on the FFF will know exactly who you are. 

And I am pretty sure there is someone on this forum who has been to HAC for the last 3-5 years.

So why the hold back on telling us the years you attended HAC?  It helps us in knowing what time period you existed.

I finished in 2013

Now you've done it.  I have figured out your true identity. 

Nevermind.  I thought you were the other person I know who finished in 2013. 

 

[Mathew Ward]

I also worked in the Sunbeam Department all four years.  (My experience there is what gave me the extreme patience I show toward RAIDER.)

Thank you for working with Raider those 4 years in the Sunbeam Department

 

[kaba]

Hubby worked in the sunbeam department too, not sure how many years, he liked it...but then he fit right in!!!!! So glad he doesnt post here anymore.

 

[16KJV11]

Hubby worked in the sunbeam department too, not sure how many years, he liked it...but then he fit right in!!!!! So glad he doesnt post here anymore.

Oh, for the good ol' days of "GO TO AUTOZONE!"

 

[kaba]

GET OUT!