Stop Trump!!!

[subllibrm]

Sub:
So ignore "alleged" hypocrisy of Newt, Rush and Sarah and take a shot at illegal immigration, tax policy, ObamaCare and big corporations vs. family businesses. Seems you skipped right over those in your rush to defend Rush.

With control of both houses of Congress, explain why there isn't a trash can full of vetoed Republican passed bills next to Obama's desk.

What hypocrisy are you speaking of, specifically? I have never denied hypocrisy exists, but have pointed out, along with the Tomato, that Rush has been falsely accused a number of times. For instance, Rush weekly takes on the Chamber of Commerce and the Republican establishment over immigration (exploiting cheap labor) and corporate welfare.
And, if you'd watched yesterday's news, you would have seen that the democrats in the senate blocked a bill to defund Planned parenthood...the senate rules required 60 votes to send it to the president...something which frustrates the Republican base to no end.

Where are you getting 60 votes to pass a bill? The Senate needs 60 for veto but a majority to pass a bill.

Its 2/3rds for a veto override. 60 votes is the votes needed to progress a bill past procedural hurdles.

Take the vote to get everyone on record. Pass or fail you know where everyone stands.

 

[Bruh]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tax-plan/index.html

I pay 30% now, I'd be happy with 15%.

 

[praise_yeshua]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tax-plan/index.html

I pay 30% now, I'd be happy with 15%.

As long as he doesn't take the home interest deduction away... I'll like it.

 

[Just John]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tax-plan/index.html

I pay 30% now, I'd be happy with 15%.

Some good things to like but I am opposed to half of earners not paying any taxes. If some have to pay taxes everyone should have skin in the game. We are in the Democrat sandbox when we brag that 50% don't pay anything while others do. I do like lowering the corporate tax rate and keeping profits on shore.

(Not that I trust Trump to stand by any of this.  LOL)

And his  support for universal healthcare is anathema to every conservative principle.

 

[subllibrm]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tax-plan/index.html

I pay 30% now, I'd be happy with 15%.

As long as he doesn't take the home interest deduction away... I'll like it.

You special interest group people are always about me, me, me.  8)

 

[Bruh]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tax-plan/index.html

I pay 30% now, I'd be happy with 15%.

Some good things to like but I am opposed to half of earners not paying any taxes. If some have to pay taxes everyone should have skin in the game. We are in the Democrat sandbox when we brag that 50% don't pay anything while others do. I do like lowering the corporate tax rate and keeping profits on shore.

(Not that I trust Trump to stand by any of this.  LOL)

And his  support for universal healthcare is anathema to every conservative principle.

Right, as if any of them can change the way anything is done in Washington.

 

[praise_yeshua]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tax-plan/index.html

I pay 30% now, I'd be happy with 15%.

Some good things to like but I am opposed to half of earners not paying any taxes. If some have to pay taxes everyone should have skin in the game. We are in the Democrat sandbox when we brag that 50% don't pay anything while others do. I do like lowering the corporate tax rate and keeping profits on shore.

(Not that I trust Trump to stand by any of this.  LOL)

And his  support for universal healthcare is anathema to every conservative principle.

I have nothing against universal healthcare. I have something against the government doing it. Trump has said he wants a private system with every company allowed to compete for subscribers.

 

[Just John]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tax-plan/index.html

I pay 30% now, I'd be happy with 15%.

Some good things to like but I am opposed to half of earners not paying any taxes. If some have to pay taxes everyone should have skin in the game. We are in the Democrat sandbox when we brag that 50% don't pay anything while others do. I do like lowering the corporate tax rate and keeping profits on shore.

(Not that I trust Trump to stand by any of this.  LOL)

And his  support for universal healthcare is anathema to every conservative principle.

I have nothing against universal healthcare. I have something against the government doing it. Trump has said he wants a private system with every company allowed to compete for subscribers.

There is no way to have universal healthcare without the government being majorly involved. None.  And Trump as been for single-payer healthcare in the  past. (But just last week he was done with FOX. Yet there he is in O'Reilly tonight. LOL) Socialized medicine has been a dream of progressives in this country for decades. It's all about big government. What if someone decides they don't want to have insurance?

Your "conservatism" must only reach to social issues.  Not a totally bad thing.

 

[Bruh]

The establishment is over with (hopefully) you need to be over it as well.

 

[Just John]

The establishment is over with (hopefully) you need to be over it as well.

I'll assume you are responding to me. I fail to see how being against a Trump candidacy, and a certain failed presidential run, is "establishment".  I also fail to see how being against government-mandated healthcare is anything other than conservative.  Isn't that a major thing we are mad at the GOP leadership for not repealing?  Supposedly the Trumpettes are for him because the GOP hasn't fought hard enough or isn't conservative enough but then they drop all pretenses of true conservatism to cheer him on. The diagnosis is fair...the proposed prescription just may be deadly.

 

[Just John]

The establishment is over with (hopefully) you need to be over it as well.

My "anti-establishment" bona fides are in good shape...going all the way back to the mid-70's helping to campaign against the Rockefeller wing of the GOP. Today the "establishment" is anyone who "doesn't agree with thee".

 

[Bruh]

The establishment is over with (hopefully) you need to be over it as well.

I'll assume you are responding to me. I fail to see how being against a Trump candidacy, and a certain failed presidential run, is "establishment".  I also fail to see how being against government-mandated healthcare is anything other than conservative.  Isn't that a major thing we are mad at the GOP leadership for not repealing?  Supposedly the Trumpettes are for him because the GOP hasn't fought hard enough or isn't conservative enough but then they drop all pretenses of true conservatism to cheer him on. The diagnosis is fair...the proposed prescription just may be deadly.

I don't remember him saying UHC what he's talking about is Health Savings Account and things of that nature.

If none of them fought hard enough, than how can Trump mess anything up?
He's a business man more than anything and that's what we need. As for foreign policy I really believe Trump would split an atom on some of theses country's and put an American flag next to the oil well.

He also said "free trade" is hurting America (which it is) and would redo it. Who else is talking like this? WHO?

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Bruh]He's a business man more than anything and that's what we need. As for foreign policy I really believe Trump would split an atom on some of theses country's and put an American flag next to the oil well.

He also said "free trade" is hurting America (which it is) and would redo it. Who else is talking like this? WHO?
[/quote]

In short, you think he's the exact opposite of Jesus. And this makes him a qualified leader why?

 

[praise_yeshua]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tax-plan/index.html

I pay 30% now, I'd be happy with 15%.

Some good things to like but I am opposed to half of earners not paying any taxes. If some have to pay taxes everyone should have skin in the game. We are in the Democrat sandbox when we brag that 50% don't pay anything while others do. I do like lowering the corporate tax rate and keeping profits on shore.

(Not that I trust Trump to stand by any of this.  LOL)

And his  support for universal healthcare is anathema to every conservative principle.

I have nothing against universal healthcare. I have something against the government doing it. Trump has said he wants a private system with every company allowed to compete for subscribers.

There is no way to have universal healthcare without the government being majorly involved. None.  And Trump as been for single-payer healthcare in the  past. (But just last week he was done with FOX. Yet there he is in O'Reilly tonight. LOL) Socialized medicine has been a dream of progressives in this country for decades. It's all about big government. What if someone decides they don't want to have insurance?

Your "conservatism" must only reach to social issues.  Not a totally bad thing.

You're being ridiculous. Open market can sustain a universal system with limited government involvement. Yes. Trump was for a single payer system but he has repeated said that is impossible in the US. He isn't for a universal government run system.

Trump isn't for a mandate that I'm aware of. If a person doesn't want insurance they don't have to have it. You forget that conservatives were the ones that came up with the individual mandate.

 

[Bruh]

[quote author=Bruh]He's a business man more than anything and that's what we need. As for foreign policy I really believe Trump would split an atom on some of theses country's and put an American flag next to the oil well.

He also said "free trade" is hurting America (which it is) and would redo it. Who else is talking like this? WHO?

In short, you think he's the exact opposite of Jesus. And this makes him a qualified leader why?
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I don't believe any of them are in pursuit of righteousness. Qualified to help America economically yes, bring revival to the whit house? No!

They will all probably be burning in hell for eternity.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Bruh]He's a business man more than anything and that's what we need. As for foreign policy I really believe Trump would split an atom on some of theses country's and put an American flag next to the oil well.

He also said "free trade" is hurting America (which it is) and would redo it. Who else is talking like this? WHO?

In short, you think he's the exact opposite of Jesus. And this makes him a qualified leader why?

I don't believe any of them are in pursuit of righteousness. Qualified to help America economically yes, bring revival to the whit house? No!

They will all probably be burning in hell for eternity.[/quote]

Economics instead of Jesus. Got it.

And making declarations about someone's eternal fate is far, far above my pay grade.

 

[Bruh]

[quote author=Bruh]He's a business man more than anything and that's what we need. As for foreign policy I really believe Trump would split an atom on some of theses country's and put an American flag next to the oil well.

He also said "free trade" is hurting America (which it is) and would redo it. Who else is talking like this? WHO?

In short, you think he's the exact opposite of Jesus. And this makes him a qualified leader why?

I don't believe any of them are in pursuit of righteousness. Qualified to help America economically yes, bring revival to the whit house? No!

They will all probably be burning in hell for eternity.

Economics instead of Jesus. Got it.

And making declarations about someone's eternal fate is far, far above my pay grade.
[/quote]

In your opinion, is there any one of the candidates that will bring this country to Jesus?

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Bruh]He's a business man more than anything and that's what we need. As for foreign policy I really believe Trump would split an atom on some of theses country's and put an American flag next to the oil well.

He also said "free trade" is hurting America (which it is) and would redo it. Who else is talking like this? WHO?

In short, you think he's the exact opposite of Jesus. And this makes him a qualified leader why?

I don't believe any of them are in pursuit of righteousness. Qualified to help America economically yes, bring revival to the whit house? No!

They will all probably be burning in hell for eternity.

Economics instead of Jesus. Got it.

And making declarations about someone's eternal fate is far, far above my pay grade.

In your opinion, is there any one of the candidates that will bring this country to Jesus?[/quote]

Jesus will bring us to Jesus. The more appropriate question is, "Which candidate do you feel would govern in a way most compatible with the teachings of Jesus?"

Instead of trying to answer that question, you've chosen to cheer the person who is probably the worst possible answer to that question. Even more so, the things you are cheerleading are the types of things that are antithetical to the teachings of Jesus.

 

[Bruh]

[quote author=Bruh]He's a business man more than anything and that's what we need. As for foreign policy I really believe Trump would split an atom on some of theses country's and put an American flag next to the oil well.

He also said "free trade" is hurting America (which it is) and would redo it. Who else is talking like this? WHO?

In short, you think he's the exact opposite of Jesus. And this makes him a qualified leader why?

I don't believe any of them are in pursuit of righteousness. Qualified to help America economically yes, bring revival to the whit house? No!

They will all probably be burning in hell for eternity.

Economics instead of Jesus. Got it.

And making declarations about someone's eternal fate is far, far above my pay grade.

In your opinion, is there any one of the candidates that will bring this country to Jesus?

Jesus will bring us to Jesus. The more appropriate question is, "Which candidate do you feel would govern in a way most compatible with the teachings of Jesus?"

Instead of trying to answer that question, you've chosen to cheer the person who is probably the worst possible answer to that question. Even more so, the things you are cheerleading are the types of things that are antithetical to the teachings of Jesus.
[/quote]

in your opinion, Which candidate do you feel would govern in a way most compatible with the teachings of Jesus?

 

[rsc2a]

Jesus will bring us to Jesus. The more appropriate question is, "Which candidate do you feel would govern in a way most compatible with the teachings of Jesus?"

Instead of trying to answer that question, you've chosen to cheer the person who is probably the worst possible answer to that question. Even more so, the things you are cheerleading are the types of things that are antithetical to the teachings of Jesus.

in your opinion, Which candidate do you feel would govern in a way most compatible with the teachings of Jesus?

From what I know about them, I believe Kasich tries to govern more in accordance with his Christian faith than his political ideology.

So tell me: how does dropping nukes on others then taking their resources fit with the whole "love your enemy" concept?