THE CALVINIST GOSPEL POSITION vs. THE FREE GRACE GOSPEL
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I don't have the bandwith (or the time) to watch 21 minute videos.
I'm sure many others will. God moves when God moves. I'm just your friendly neighborhood sharing man.
I'm helping this place get back on its feet after it's been led into shambles by an ecumenical chronic liar and an assistant who does nothing but go around insulting people for a living.
In the meantime, I'm exposing the unbiblical teachings of Calvinism and restoring the clarity of the Gospel to the Underground Body of Christ across the internet.
What are you doing? Drinking beers and using your NIV as a coaster?
In the meantime, I'm exposing the unbiblical teachings of Calvinism and restoring the clarity of the Gospel to the Underground Body of Christ across the internet.
What are you doing? Drinking beers and using your NIV as a coaster?
I sat through it. It's several short clips from prominent Calvinists then some B or C (in the case of "Dr" Kim) team disponsationalists trying to refute them. Their argument is that a follower of Christ shouldn't have to follow Christ. I met a guy like that many years ago when I was a young Christian. He told me upfront that he was a carnal Christian. He drank, smoked, cussed, didn't go to church or read the Bible-but he prayed a prayer years earlier so he was locked in. He knew the gospel of the carnal christian quite well.
UGC is obviously under no compulsion to behave like a believer, either.
Is that why Dr. Kim's Baptist church currently has a larger audience of followers/subscribers compared to other Baptist church online ministries out there?
Oh, these guys are prominent and you go on to defend their works salvation doctrine.
I was waiting for a goof to stumble over themselves an actually defend those Celebrity Pop Star Christian Heretics,
who better than the Zero-Point Calvinist, tmjbog?
Are you really defending John Piper, who said, "YOU DON'T GET SAVED BY FAITH ALONE. THE GOSPEL IS NOT ABOUT FORGIVENESS."
Are you really defending these Calvinists right now and their works salvation Gospel, Arminian?
UGC is like kryptonite to the megachurch system.
We awaken its members using our podcast and the power of the internet.
Ain't nobody want to hear no works Salvation from the pulpits anymore.
Tell John Piper UGC called and told him to get saved.
Really? List all the Celebrity Free Grace Pastors you know that are alive today.
So that's a grand total of zero.
"Easy believism" is the term commonly coined to attack GES (Grace Evangelical Society, i.e. Bob Wilkins), because they can sometimes teach a crossless gospel and say "just believe in Jesus, that's it".
On the broader scale, from Dr. Ryrie across all Dispensationalists, from the Classicals at DTS to Ruckmanites to Mid-Acts to Acts 28, they all hold to the Free Grace gospel position in the Church Age.
Some ignoramuses lump everyone under "Easy believism" and the answer to that is simple: what's your alternative? HARD believism? WORKS + believism?
You're either Faith alone by Grace alone for Salvation or you're making the Gospel hard in one way or another. Christ did all the HARD work when it comes to Salvation.
"Easy believism" is the term commonly coined to attack GES (Grace Evangelical Society, i.e. Bob Wilkins), because they can sometimes teach a crossless gospel and say "just believe in Jesus, that's it".
On the broader scale, from Dr. Ryrie across all Dispensationalists, from the Classicals at DTS to Ruckmanites to Mid-Acts to Acts 28, they all hold to the Free Grace gospel position in the Church Age.
Some ignoramuses lump everyone under "Easy believism" and the answer to that is simple: what's your alternative? HARD believism? WORKS + believism?
You're either Faith alone by Grace alone for Salvation or you're making the Gospel hard in one way or another. Christ did all the HARD work when it comes to Salvation.
At the bare minimum you must continue in belief. The Arminian would say backsliding to the point of unbelief would be making shipwreck of your faith. The Calvinist would probably see it as evidence of not being regenerated in the first place-either way there is no such thing as a non-believing believer.
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Uh... Hey guy who claims to have "black friends", Lil' Kim is a rapper, a girl, and she's black.
You should know these things, "friend of black people".