Who would have thought that the Daily Mail would get the rapture date prediction wrong? What a rag.
The Rapture is Tomorrow
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They were late to the party…missed it by almost 40 years.
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It ain't over yet, people! There's still a chance!
www.ibtimes.co.uk
I mean, it's still October 7 somewhere in the world for the next 12 hours!
Did the 'Re-Scheduled' Rapture 2025 Happen? Followers Still Waiting as Another Prophecy Falls Flat
Mhlakela's prophecy rests on a vivid vision he claimed to have received, in which he said Jesus appeared to him and declared that he would return on September 23–24.
www.ibtimes.co.uk
When those dates passed quietly, the prophecy seemed to collapse, but not entirely. Some adherents quickly shifted to a new predicted window of 6-7 October, arguing that earlier calculations had used the wrong calendar.
I mean, it's still October 7 somewhere in the world for the next 12 hours!
Just out of curiosity, do most of you folks here believe that the rapture will happen within a decade or a century? Do you think it could be hundreds or even a thousand years away?
This is no Rapture. There is the Second Advent, and that will be all.
Forgetting all the Lindseyian foolishness, we're told straight out in non-apocalyptic terms that there will be a great apostacy first, and the "Man of Sin" will be revealed before that day. This man of sin will be able to perform lying wonders...not fake ones...but ones that will confirm lies and deceive the nations into accepting "him," as God.
It will be much like the deceptions used by the other gods (demons) of the nations in antiquity, only more grand and universal. Only the "very elect" will remain undeceived.
Who knows when that will be? Tomorrow? Ten years?
You only know this...you yourself do not have a long time.
So just out of curiosity? What is it that you're afraid of?
I don't honestly know. My pastor believes it will happen within his lifetime (he's 71) or the lifetime of his sons. He'll never claim to be dogmatic about it but I believe he's looking for it within that general timeframe.
I think it's just as likely to be within this century as the next or successive centuries.
As I get older, I find myself recalling events that were 50+ years ago. Whereas I used to view 50 years as a long time, I am beginning to realize that it really isn't much time at all. So, I don't care to speculate how soon the rapture will occur.
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Interesting. I guess I didn’t realize you didn’t believe in the rapture. So you believe that Christians will have to go through all of the trials and tribulations until the Second Coming?
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I understand why atheists scorn Christian doctrine, just not sure why professing brothers take such an attitude.
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I was just wondering why, in the top frame, Nancy and Sluggo didn't leave their pants behind, too.
I agree. Are Christians who believe in the rapture considered dunces? I was always under the impression there wasn’t a definitive answer regarding this rapture matter. My former pastor has a PhD in theology and it’s what he taught us.
Does your pastor believe in the rapture or only the Second Coming like these guys on the forum?
What are those cartoons from?
We definitely believe in the rapture.
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Since it appears that I have been demoted to a mere "professing believer," I won't venture an opinion on this, but here are some comments from more reputable sources:
"I think one of God's major personality characteristics is mercy. And I think that's the reason it [the Second Coming] hasn't happened in 2000 years. And if He waits one more day, in His economy of time that's a thousand of years. We could be a thousand years from the Second Coming. Now, to rabid pre-tribbers and rapture watchers, that's heresy. How could the person who wrote 'Left Behind' say it could be a thousand years? Because it's been 2000 years." - Jerry Jenkins, co-author of the "Left Behind" novels.
"Now, there is no place in the Scripture where we are told to watch for signs - the rebuilding of Babylon, or the returning of the Jews to Jerusalem, but all through Scripture we are told what to do - just to watch for Him; just to be waiting for our Lord's return from Heaven."
- D.L. Moody, founder of Moody Bible Institute
"Leave the prophets to divide the profits, which they get from simpletons; and as for you, watch for Christ's coming, whether it shall be today, or tomorrow, and set no limits, and no dates, and no times." - Charles Haddon Spurgeon, pastor, Metropolitan Baptist Tabernacle, London.
"Most of us would like to believe that Jesus is coming in our lifetime. Yet even as we anticipate the Lord's return, we need to be aware that eschatological excitement and prophetic panic tend to go hand in hand. Every time a war heats up in the Middle East, there are a number of 'prophetic panhandlers' who assure us that this is 'the Big One.' Despite the church's 20-century-long struggle to understand biblical prophecy, these modern-day 'prophets' claim to have the last days and Christ's return all figured out - some to the very day! The problem is that Christians have had this mindset for centuries and have often attempted to read prophecy through the eyes of their own experiences. The results have been a host of miscalculated guesses based on faulty presuppositions." Edward Hindson, Liberty University
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Not sure why you feel like the term suggested a demotion. It was a euphemism for fellow Christian, nothing more. The greater point was that your jaded perspective on dispensationalism has you aligning with some caustic views.
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John Piper wrote a convincing book a couple years ago (and yes I read the entire thing) called Come Lord Jesus https://www.wtsbooks.com/products/c...-on-the-second-coming-of-christ-9781433584954 . He believes in a rapture, just not pre-trib. I agree. He says about 5 years need to pass before it happens, and he shows it biblically. I'm classic premillenial, post Trib, but I hold it very lightly. It is not a fundamental of the faith. That is a huge mistake of Fundamentalists, putting that at the center of what someone must believe to be a church member. It is a totally peripheral issue. Like outer ring in the concentric circles of how important doctrines are.
The Rapture doesn't mean escape from The Tribulation, as you understand the Tribulation. (See the Post-Trib Rapture people above.)