Theology's influence on losing "The Faith".

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It blantantly obvious that there are many turing away from "The Faith". While this isn't something that began recently, this modern era has influenced or hastened the departure.

What role do you believe theology plays in losing "The Faith". With the availability of information increasing at phenomenal rate, people are no longer confined to little groups that can easily be controlled with disinformation. Its difficult realizing you've been lied to for years and just how stupid you were for actually believing the lie you've been sold. Thank God, I realized this more 20 years ago. I count it as a blessing. It actually drove me to study and learning. It forced me to make what I believe my own.

Yet, I am well aware that many just abandon the faith. Peter talked of a "trial of faith". My trial came in the form of theology. A challenge to embrace the truth or abandon it.

What role do you believe "theology" plays in turning people from their religion to the point of abandoing the faith altogether?

and what message would you give these people?

 
Theology is a neutral term....it needs a qualifier.  There is Conservative & Liberal theology, there is anti-biblical and biblical theology.  So it depends on which one is listening to or following.  Everyone is follow some sort of Theology.
 
T-Bone said:
Theology is a neutral term....it needs a qualifier.  There is Conservative & Liberal theology, there is anti-biblical and biblical theology.  So it depends on which one is listening to or following.  Everyone is follow some sort of Theology.

I was trying to stay away from a qualifer. I was speaking more to the learning process than an actual theology that is slanted a certain direction. The study of the nature of God.

What would your advice be to those who are studying to develop a systemantic belief system concerning the nature of God.
 
Prin.Ciples said:
T-Bone said:
Theology is a neutral term....it needs a qualifier.  There is Conservative & Liberal theology, there is anti-biblical and biblical theology.  So it depends on which one is listening to or following.  Everyone is follow some sort of Theology.

I was trying to stay away from a qualifer. I was speaking more to the learning process than an actual theology that is slanted a certain direction. The study of the nature of God.

What would your advice be to those who are studying to develop a systemantic belief system concerning the nature of God.

I would certainly encourage them to do so.  We exist for God, so the need to know Him deeper is crucial.  In good theology God reveals Himself to us.  I would encourage them to spend more time in the Bible in this endeavor and less time in many of the systematic theology books.  I am not condemning them outright, but feel some spend more time in reading what others have to say about what the Scripture says about God...then going to the Source Itself.  IMO
 
Prin.Ciples said:
hat role do you believe theology plays in losing "The Faith".

Theology is the content of the faith. When you are talking about the faith, you are talking theology. When you walk away from the faith, you walk away from theology.
 
Ransom said:
Prin.Ciples said:
hat role do you believe theology plays in losing "The Faith".

Theology is the content of the faith. When you are talking about the faith, you are talking theology. When you walk away from the faith, you walk away from theology.

Utter nonsense. Theology isn't limited to Christianity. Do you enjoy creating your own definitions out of thin air?
 
Prin.Ciples said:
Utter nonsense...Do you enjoy creating your own definitions out of thin air?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha
 
Prin.Ciples said:
Utter nonsense. Theology isn't limited to Christianity.

In that case, theology plays a big part in people leaving the faith.

Christians become Muslims, Jews, Hindus, ScientologistsTM, etc. after being persuaded of the truth of Muslim theology, Jewish theology, Hindu theology, ScientologistTM theology, etc.

Do you enjoy creating your own definitions out of thin air?

Do you enjoy the feeling of moral superiority you get out of playing word games? Wow, I sure feel like an idiot after not reading your mind and figuring out what you actually meant by "theology," since obviously you are too far above us to stoop to, you know, defining it in the OP.
 
Ransom said:
Prin.Ciples said:
Utter nonsense. Theology isn't limited to Christianity.

In that case, theology plays a big part in people leaving the faith, when Christians become persuaded that Muslim theology, Jewish theology, Hindu theology, ScientologistTM theology, etc. are truer.

This may possibly happen. Why are you reserving such solely to a different flavor of Christianity?

Do you enjoy the feeling of moral superiority you get out of playing word games no one else joins?

I'm not playing word games at all. When I use the word "theology", I am using the English defintion of "theology". The English defintion of theology doesn't exclude alternate systematic explaination of God.

I have no idea where you got your defintion from. Please provide a reputable English definition of theology that confines the subject matter exclusively to Christianity.
 
rsc2a said:
Prin.Ciples said:
Utter nonsense...Do you enjoy creating your own definitions out of thin air?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha

Pro 27:4  Wrath is cruel, anger is overwhelming, but who can stand before jealousy?
 
He's a Poe, why even respond,....
You notice ALAYMAN said he wouldn't be around for a but then this guy shows up??
Coincidence? I think not!


You ever notice you never saw Yasur Arafat and Ringo Star at the same time either, did you?
 
Prin.Ciples said:
This may possibly happen. Why are you reserving such solely to a different flavor of Christianity?

I didn't reserve "such," what ever that is, to any particular flavour of Christianity. Didn't even mention 'em.

Someone who posted as vague and ill-conceived an OP as you did, should be doing less whining, and more clarifying.
 
Okay... what is a "poe?"

If this was ALAYMAN, I would expect MOHLERSBOY or some kind of moniker like that! ;)
 
FSSL said:
Okay... what is a "poe?"

Poe's Law, named after Nathan Poe, in a broader form: "Without a blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of extremism or fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing." Think "Deacon Dixon" over on the fleabag forum.

I don't think Prin.Cess is a poe, insofar as he doesn't appear to be parodying some form of extremism.

However, the jury is still out on whether or not his density is real or feigned. If the latter, then we're still being trolled, just not by a poe.
 
Recovering IFB said:
He's a Poe, why even respond,....
You notice ALAYMAN said he wouldn't be around for a but then this guy shows up??
Coincidence? I think not!


You ever notice you never saw Yasur Arafat and Ringo Star at the same time either, did you?

From what I've read, ALAYMAN is just as good as any of you when it comes to a debate. The very fact you have to mention him so often is proof you're obsessed.

 
Ransom said:
However, the jury is still out on whether or not his density is real or feigned. If the latter, then we're still being trolled, just not by a poe.

Thanks! I have been thinking "Troll" for the past week.
 
FSSL said:
Ransom said:
However, the jury is still out on whether or not his density is real or feigned. If the latter, then we're still being trolled, just not by a poe.

Thanks! I have been thinking "Troll" for the past week.

Are you trying to make the case to ban me? You and Ransom appear to be the only mods here. Both of you are targeting me as a troll when I'm not.

Either way, you couldn't stop me from joining again even if you wanted to. Al least..... not without potentially block a lot of other people. I could increase or decrease the Tor exit node roll to what I need it to be.

Either way, I wouldn't do it. Just making the point that I could..... if I was really a troll. I'd keep you all busy for some time. All you have to do Admin, is tell me to leave. I'll be glad to move on. I'm not a troll. I'm just a person looking to discuss the Scriptures. If you think I have any other motives, then look at your own hearts. My motives are pure. I've done nothing to warrant how you're all treating me. Nothing.
 
Prin.Ciples said:
Are you trying to make the case to ban me? You and Ransom appear to be the only mods here. Both of you are targeting me as a troll when I'm not.

Trollish, thin-skinned, and paranoid.
 
Prin.Ciples said:
Are you trying to make the case to ban me? You and Ransom appear to be the only mods here. Both of you are targeting me as a troll when I'm not.

I don't need to "make a case" for banning someone. I just do it.
You are free to post. We are free to critique your posts.
 
Prin.Ciples said:
From what I've read, ALAYMAN is just as good as any of you when it comes to a debate. The very fact you have to mention him so often is proof you're obsessed.

Well, there's your proof that he's ALAYMAN!

 
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