Tom Brennan Hitting It Hard....

Tarheel Baptist said:
ALAYMAN said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
No, the point is that philosophy and methods are synonymous...in the eyes of Tom's Crusaders.
And the Crusaders call that 'attractionalism'.
Except for that jail cell in the auditorium thing.

I'm sure that there are many legalistic "standards preaching" folk in the group you are referring to, and that you have witnessed it first hand.  That doesn't mean that there isn't a ring of truth to Tom's concern, and that alarm is not just Tom and his crusaders, as I've shown or alluded to briefly a couple of times regarding other conservative evangelicals.  You can point to the unsophisticated IFB legalists and lampoon them til the cows come home, but that right criticism don't nullify the obvious pragmatism rampant in modern evangelicalism (even in some "neos").  Go ahead (rightfully) and point to those who wrongfully hold to a model of traditionalism in Christianity, just don't throw the baby out with the bath.

I have already ceded your point...there is rampant pragmatism in hip relevant evangelicalism. I have publicly and personally confronted such...in my own small circle of influence.
But, that is NOT what Tom?s Crusaders are crusading against. You don?t have to wonder because they tell you...Josh Teis and his new fangeled followers. That are IFB?s who have sinned in straying from the old paths reservation.

Somneone once said perception is reality and I?m afraid that the perception I have of Tom?s Crusaders in the dominant perception. As I mentioned earlier I am in a FB group with many young IFB Pastors who attend Josh Teis? ?Idea Day? conferences. Their take is like mine, that it?s totally about their methods. They also feel that Tom?s motivation is to mend fences with some of the old path feathers he may have ruffled with his book. To that, I have no idea. As to it being totally about methods, I have no doubt.
You know that we hardly agree on much.
That said, I agree with your take away here.

I read the blog series with great gusto, expecting Scriptural analysis of error.

Instead, I heard the same old traditionalist mantra, repackaged.

BORING!

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https://reformationcharlotte.org/2019/02/21/embracing-a-new-age-charismatic-worship-on-sunday-mornings
 
Josh Teis responds....

https://concerningjesus.blogspot.com/2019/03/josh-teis-responds-tom-brennan-answers.html
 
Twisted said:
Josh Teis responds....

https://concerningjesus.blogspot.com/2019/03/josh-teis-responds-tom-brennan-answers.html

At the risk of sounding like a waffler, I think Tom's intentions are good and pure, but his ultimate basis for judging whether somebody else is drawing closer to conformity to Christ are based possibly more on derived and potentially subjective principles that are externally measured (versions, SBC bugaboos, movies, etc)  than those that are explicitly mentioned in Scriptures (ie Galatians 5:22).  At the end of the day, I'll maintain what I've said all along.  There's too much to do in the ministry to devote a disproportionate amount of time to sorting through other conservative ministries and their perceived differences on matters that are secondary in nature of importance.  Let both men's tribes follow their Biblically informed conscience before the Lord and let each be judged ultimately by the Master for their work and intents.
 
I thought the same thing when I read Tom's response. How does Tom get to be the person who decides if Josh is loving believers first and the lord second? Based on , what, his methods of worship?

End the end it all goes back to just that - hair, music, pants on women, etc as the absolute standard of who loves God more. I just saved anyone who hasn't read the series a lot of time.


ALAYMAN said:
Twisted said:
Josh Teis responds....

https://concerningjesus.blogspot.com/2019/03/josh-teis-responds-tom-brennan-answers.html

At the risk of sounding like a waffler, I think Tom's intentions are good and pure, but his ultimate basis for judging whether somebody else is drawing closer to conformity to Christ are based possibly more on derived and potentially subjective principles that are externally measured (versions, SBC bugaboos, movies, etc)  than those that are explicitly mentioned in Scriptures (ie Galatians 5:22).  At the end of the day, I'll maintain what I've said all along.  There's too much to do in the ministry to devote a disproportionate amount of time to sorting through other conservative ministries and their perceived differences on matters that are secondary in nature of importance.  Let both men's tribes follow their Biblically informed conscience before the Lord and let each be judged ultimately by the Master for their work and intents.
 
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