"treasure_lost"'s Pastor Fired!!

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I guarantee you, I guarantee you, Abraham's book collection exceeds yours.
I'm sure you've chewed on many more of his books than I'll ever own.
 

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You are literally keeping souls out of heaven by trying to lie and smear against God's word, God's people, and God's doctrines.
"Literally" πŸ˜‚

You don't even have anything truthful to say, so you literally try to turn all of these Christians into something false so others won't come to know the truth. Shame on you.
"Literally" πŸ˜€:)πŸ‘†
 

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Two how can Ransom be having a significant impact on those googling particular search terms and be insignificant at the same time?
Yeah, it's like the way George Bush's less intelligent opponents simultaneously portrayed him as an evil genius mastermind and a moronic chimp.
 

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"All of Reality is an allegory I twist in my mighty dweeb hands" -Ransom

Checkmate. GG no re.
 

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What lie is it now? "I gave up Ruckman?"

I was never a Ruckmanite.

Your lies are more terrible than Ransom's, just let him do that job. You just keep making broad, generalized statements that make no sense. That's your job.
A classic from the UGC archives:

The Ultimate Scale of "Ruckmanite" and Those Falsely-So-Called (created for dire demand by UGC)
(we simply compared it to Yelp reviews, or any other 5-star rating scale):

Ruckmanites: would rate Ruckman 5 stars. Their pastor most likely graduated from PBI. I personally have little experience irl with these folks, so I can't judge them.
Ruckman Readers (RR): 4 stars. They actually read a book of his (yes, the whole book), then a few more + aren't fearful of Anti-Ruckmanites in public. They don't agree with the Doc on everything, and have studied plenty of other teachers. (UGC is here)
No one:
3 stars. It's impossible to be neutral with Ruckman. It's Ruckman.
Ruckman Avoiders (RA): 2 stars. Most people are here.
Anti-Ruckmanites: 1 star (this scale doesn't allow for 0 stars because 3 needs to be in the middle). Bad experience ex-IFB, kids once bullied, men depriving themselves of their own testosterone go here. The 1-stars are very powerful. This is because Ruckman gives them something they never had before: the feeling of being accepted and understood by a team. Only Ruckman can bring a group of church soy boys together as their perfect outlet for their haunted pasts. He reminds them of the quarterback who dated 3 of the girls they had a crush on in high school while stuffing them in a locker every day, except they can attack him with no remorse because 1. well it's the internet, but more importantly 2. he's a Christian Bible teacher who doesn't act soft "like he's supposed to", so they can tear into him shamelessly, blinded to the fact that they've now become what they're attacking. It is the ultimate cheat mode: all of the feelings of reward with none of the work or danger required to actually be Ruckman, or a Ruckmanite, or an RR... and when the feeling of elation goes unchecked long enough, it transforms their egos into Super-Saiyan Anti-Ruckmanites (SSARs, pronounced like the virus) with which they unleash their special move: the diarrhea spew. This move carries no regard for logic or the humanity of the opponent, it hinges exclusively on lying and twisting all things with the sole purpose of making the Ruckmanite or the RR look as horrible as possible. They must project and protect this imaginary culture on everyone around them at all costs: for if the world ever knew that Ruckman, Ruckmanites, and RR's (a.k.a. Rest & Relaxationists in the face of SSARs as we really don't care) weren't as bad as the SSARs need them to be, their entire social construct would fall and they would lose the only team identity they ever had. Their cult would be destroyed.
 

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Notice how "RUCKMANITE" is LITERALLY in a separate category.
It's an "allegory."
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Ugh Church know words! Me have best words!
 

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Yep. I'm a Ruckman Reader.

Notice how "RUCKMANITE" is LITERALLY in a separate category.
On the rucky scale you rate yourself 4 out of 5 stars. That's strong agreement. To use your Yelp analogy a restaurant that has 4 out 5 stars is strongly agreed to be a good place to go.
 

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On the rucky scale you rate yourself 4 out of 5 stars. That's strong agreement.
4/5 is 80%. That's a B- on the everyone gets a trophy West Coast and a C on the East Side.

I guess that is considered a good grade by an idiot like you.


You know who I rate 0 out of 5 stars?

New Version Calvinists and Replacement Theologians. Like CARM.
 

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4/5 is 80%. That's a B- on the everyone gets a trophy West Coast and a C on the East Side.

I guess that is considered a good grade by an idiot like you.


You know who I rate 0 out of 5 stars?

New Version Calvinists and Replacement Theologians. Like CARM.
So you give Rucky a C. We are literally in agreement that he got many many things wrong, then. And folks should not follow his teachings.
 

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So you give Rucky a C.
New Versionist Replacement Theologians get an F. You do the comparison.

UGC grades tough.

We are literally in agreement... And folks should not follow his teachings.
I'm aware you probably never passed a class in your life, but a C is a passing grade. So is a B.
 

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New Versionists, Replacement Theologians get an F. You do the comparison.

UGC grades tough.
Right but a C is not good under any circumstances so it appears we literally agree that Ruckman got way too many things wrong to follow his teachings.
 

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(Isn't it funny how it's these guys' jobs to smear UGC, Dispensationalism, KJVO, and Ruckmanites to try and make us all look like idiots, but it ends up the other way around)
 

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(Isn't it funny how it's these guys' jobs to smear UGC, Dispensationalism, KJVO, and Ruckmanites to try and make us all look like idiots, but it ends up the other way around)
To be fair you are the one giving Ruckman a grade of C. Sounds like your no fan either. So we are literally in agreement for a change.
 

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Notice how Crabbe and Goyle respond. They address nothing specific. Nothing.

Just 1-sentence BROAD, GENERALIZED smear campaign statements with absolutely zero relevance, reasoning, or evidence behind them.

This is their function.

Then you have Ransom, the amateur researcher and professional liar, who sits there like an evil wannabe Spock (except he's an idiot), defending the Holy system of Mother Church in TWENTY TWENTY!

Carefully twisting each word one at a time, covering it up with "sine qua non", and blaming it all on the KJV readers!
Lie after lie....

I have tried many times to engage you line by line on any subject you want to choose.... to just watch as you always stop and start the name calling.

I've been wondering recently if you're serious at all.
 

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And there's insignificant crony 3: the guy who lends silent support from the corner by only thumbing up the worst posts to save them from looking so stupid.

Imagine if a KJVO or Dispensationalist did all the things Westcott & Hort did. These guys would be ripping them apart.

Of course, because it's the 2 guys who started their corrupt money grubbing New Version system and gave all the famous modern scholars their "higher church rep" among all the millions of deceived lukewarm sheep in megachurches around the world who are now using them to keep them in bondage to their religion by keeping in them in fear under the law with their pharisaical works salvation false gospel lie (Lordship Salvation), it becomes:


"well everyone summons demons, man. it's all part of the culture. never mind what the bible says about this. it's not only normal, it's classy! so they had their doubts and satanic connections from satanic groups who praised their new versions for aligning with satanism, yeah so what? so they were all about realigning the new versions with catholic tradition and doctrine, yeah so what? if you just pay attention to this one thing they said here that actually does agree with christian orthodoxy, all that other minor stuff suddenly evaporates!"


The double standard of these disinfo agents is worse than CNN knocking Trump for golfing while ignoring everything crazy Biden does.
 

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Listen to these quick audio clips from John MacArthur preaching works salvation from the New Versions like a good little famous Calvinist.

Are you aware that his famous Calvinist buddy R.C. Sproul, who believed God LITERALLY controls every molecule in the universe therefore free will is impossible and God makes you sin (yet somehow even though God controls every molecule, he's not the one doing the sinning, you are, the usual logic of these halfwits), Sproul brought up Theosophy one time, totally off topic and out of nowhere, at a large conference event when he was answering questions.

I wonder if someone can find that clip for us. It was literally out of the blue and had nothing to do with the question asked. Then he kind of smirked like he just said something that went over people's heads.

I'm convinced Calvinists are either control freaks or passive, lazy enablers of evil who need to believe they have no accountability and God does everything for them because of this unhealthy need to envision their God in such an extreme way.


These famous Lordship Salvationists and their little G3 conferences are centers for deception and the false gospel, folks. People need to wake up and stop only ever giving these men the benefit of the doubt and overlooking every questionable thing they say or do. Like John Piper. That guy is a blatant works salvationist:

 

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To be fair you are the one giving Ruckman a grade of C. Sounds like your no fan either. So we are literally in agreement for a change.
He might not claim Ruckman but he is definitely much like him.
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And there's insignificant crony 3: the guy who lends silent support from the corner by only thumbing up the worst posts to save them from looking so stupid.

Imagine if a KJVO or Dispensationalist did all the things Westcott & Hort did. These guys would be ripping them apart.

Of course, because it's the 2 guys who started their corrupt money grubbing New Version system and gave all the famous modern scholars their "higher church rep" among all the millions of deceived lukewarm sheep in megachurches around the world who are now using them to keep them in bondage to their religion by keeping in them in fear under the law with their pharisaical works salvation false gospel lie (Lordship Salvation), it becomes:


"well everyone summons demons, man. it's all part of the culture. never mind what the bible says about this. it's not only normal, it's classy! so they had their doubts and satanic connections from satanic groups who praised their new versions for aligning with satanism, yeah so what? so they were all about realigning the new versions with catholic tradition and doctrine, yeah so what? if you just pay attention to this one thing they said here that actually does agree with christian orthodoxy, all that other minor stuff suddenly evaporates!"


The double standard of these disinfo agents is worse than CNN knocking Trump for golfing while ignoring everything crazy Biden does.
You're being dishonest again.

I don't preach nor promote Westcott and Hort. No one does. I just can't stand your hypocrisy in not applying the same standard for your choice of translations.

Westcott and Hort were sinful men.... At least they didn't lie in most everything they said like you do.
 

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He might not claim Ruckman but he is definitely much like him.
treasure_unseen, the guy who said the Bible is lying when it says the Holy Spirit departed from Saul, said it, believe him.

He's obviously a very humble and perceptive man, eager to adjust his mistaken positions to align with the truth.

I don't preach nor promote Westcott and Hort. No one does.
Then you promote and believe nothing Christian. You attack the KJV (essentially the Majority Text line outside the Critical Text), yet you claim you don't support Westcott & Hort's New Versions now.

You attack Dispensationalism, yet you claim you're not a Covenant Theologian, even though you literally think you're a Jew.

These guys are liars, folks. Disinfo agents needing to be exposed.
 
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