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Ekklesian said:
Natch. Time to turn off the spigot, but he doesn't want to end up like JFK or Charlie Kirk.
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I get the JFK thing for sure but not to sure about the Kirk situation. It is weird how after he was shot that week the college poured concrete over where he was killed.
 
Ekklesian said:
Look what popped up in my email...

www.theepochtimes.com

IDF to Stay in South Lebanon, Vows to Retaliate If Hit by Tehran

Israel’s National Security minister also said that the ceasefire deal agreed between the United States and Iran did not bind the Jewish state.
www.theepochtimes.com www.theepochtimes.com

Ceasefire Does Not Bind Israel: Ben-Gvir​

Following the ceasefire deal, Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir said in a post on X that “Trump’s agreement does not bind us.”​
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But wasn't it just about Iran having nukes? :unsure:
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Thank you!
I guess I really need to start posting my sources. Some of these people only watch the 10 o’clock news, ABC News and so forth and of course they will not hear the actual news and tell me I’m making things up. Which is fine it’s whatever 😝
 
Three of President Trump's most prominent pro-Israel supporters have publicly broken with him following reports of a proposed Iran peace deal and his efforts to prevent further escalation in the Middle East.

Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, and Laura Loomer have all criticized President Trump after reports that the agreement could include sanctions relief, reconstruction funding, and the release of frozen Iranian assets in exchange for Iranian compliance with nuclear restrictions and inspections.

The backlash intensified after President Trump reportedly urged Israel not to expand military operations in Lebanon and continued pushing for negotiations with Iran rather than further conflict.

The three Israel mouth pieces have repeatedly praised President Trump, but betray him immediately after Trump finally makes a decision that is not in the best interest of Israel.

- Truth Wire
 
Bruh said:
Attacked us on our land? Or were we over there causing trouble?
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So you're only concerned for dead U.S. soldiers if they die at the hands of foreign killers while in Louisiana and American soil?
 
ALAYMAN said:
So you're only concerned for dead U.S. soldiers if they die at the hands of foreign killers while in Louisiana and American soil?
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No, but if someone breaks into your house you will either kill them or hurt them. Wrong is wrong whether we do it or someone else does it. It’s sad that the person died that broke into your house but that’s what happens when they do that.
 
Bruh said:
No, but if someone breaks into your house you will either kill them or hurt them. Wrong is wrong whether we do it or someone else does it. It’s sad that the person died that broke into your house but that’s what happens when they do that.
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Your answer lacks relevance to my point, or you miss the point entirely. We have international interests that require a non-isolationist stance around the globe. You implied we are to blame for being "over there causing trouble", as if to say if we'd just bring our troops home and not have presence in the Middle East (and other world hot spots) that we wouldn't have to deal with people attacking us. Tell that to New Yorkers post 9-11.
 
ALAYMAN said:
Your answer lacks relevance to my point, or you miss the point entirely. We have international interests that require a non-isolationist stance around the globe. You implied we are to blame for being "over there causing trouble", as if to say if we'd just bring our troops home and not have presence in the Middle East (and other world hot spots) that we wouldn't have to deal with people attacking us. Tell that to New Yorkers post 9-11.
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Why did the terrorist fly those planes into the World Trade Center?
 
Bruh said:
Why did the terrorist fly those planes into the World Trade Center?
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They wanted 72 virgins to greet them?

That doesn't address my point either. You implied we should stop meddling in the world and that people would leave us alone. Naive, very naive.
 
ALAYMAN said:
They wanted 72 virgins to greet them?

That doesn't address my point either. You implied we should stop meddling in the world and that people would leave us alone. Naive, very naive.
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You said, “Tell that to New Yorkers post 9-11.” I was referring to this.

I’m not an isolationist. There needs to be valid undeniable evidence for any country to bomb or put boots on the ground in another country. As far as I can tell, Iran hasn’t given the US reason.
 
Bruh said:
You said, “Tell that to New Yorkers post 9-11.” I was referring to this.

I’m not an isolationist. There needs to be valid undeniable evidence for any country to bomb or put boots on the ground in another country. As far as I can tell, Iran hasn’t given the US reason.
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My reference to other Muslim extremism was to point to the fact that hatred of the U.S. is because of who we are, and our values, plus their extremist jihadist views. It's not just Iran and their religious extremism that's the problem. You can't just over-simplify this to blaming the Jooooooooooos.
 
ALAYMAN said:
My reference to other Muslim extremism was to point to the fact that hatred of the U.S. is because of who we are, and our values, plus their extremist jihadist views. It's not just Iran and their religious extremism that's the problem. You can't just over-simplify this to blaming the Jooooooooooos.
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I haven’t mentioned the Jews in this exchange.
 
Bruh said:
I haven’t mentioned the Jews in this exchange.
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So? Your past posts on here about our entanglement in Iran aren't relevant to your thinking and argument as to why we shouldn't be in the Middle East?
 
ALAYMAN said:
So? Your past posts on here about our entanglement in Iran aren't relevant to your thinking and argument as to why we shouldn't be in the Middle East?
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Not this exchange, no. Never entered my mind.
 
Bruh-"Not this exchange, no. Never entered my mind."


Well. I would declare bovine excrement, but I'll play nice. Back to the point. Iran has attacked us for over 47 years, in their back yard, because of the afore mentioned reasons. Your claim is that if we weren't "over there causing trouble" those threats and deaths would have been avoidable. Sustain that argument and convince me of that theory.
 
Bruh said:
Well let’s see, White House, War, White House, UFC
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World Wide Web, Wil Wheaton, Wombats, Willy Wonka, Wakko Warner, the Wobblies.

I can randomly list words starting with W. too, but I don't blame the Jooooos.
 
Bruh said:
Attacked us on our land?
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The Iran hostages were taken at the US Embassy in Tehran.

In March, Iranian missiles targeted the embassies in Riyadh, Kuwait, Dubai, and Baghdad.

So yes, fool, on your land.
 
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