Are any of you old enough to remember the Vietnam War era? I was born in 1980, so I’ve only studied it and watched movies.
Yes, I am! You're young enough to be my son. I finished high school in 1980. I was in 8th grade when the war ended. I had wanted for years to go over and "kill some gooks" to "even the score" for some of my friends and relatives who had lost their husbands, brothers, and fathers. We really didn't belong in Viet Nam, but, we were there nonetheless. Apparently we didn't truly want to win. Seems America had lost it's taste for victory in favor of appeasement.Are any of you old enough to remember the Vietnam War era? I was born in 1980, so I’ve only studied it and watched movies.
Thank you for that information. That’s about how I figured it was viewed, but it’s difficult to find people who were in the conservative Baptist churches back then, and were old enough to remember.From the booklet "War in Vietnam" by John R. Rice, published in 1966 by Sword of the Lord Publishers, Murfreesboro, Tennessee, pp. 15-16:
"Good Christians should obey the government when young men are drafted for the war in Vietnam or protection of American homeland. . . .I believe that the enslavement of millions of people by communism is indescribably wicked. Any good Christian ought to have a holy indignation over it. I think that America sinned through our government in holding back General MacArthur and preventing outright victory in the Korean War. I believe our government sinned against God in holding back and letting Russian troops occupy Berlin and divide Germany. I believe that before that, the American government greatly sinned in being soft on communism, and turning the mainland of China principally over to the Communists and thus betraying our friend, Chiang Kai-Shek. I have no doubt that if there is ever a holy and righteous cause for war, it is to prevent godless communism with its murder and torture and persecution from taking over other lands which ask our help. But these things are settled by the government and good Christians obey the laws of the land, because the Bible commands us to do so."
I am not necessarily endorsing Rice's views on Korea, Berlin or China, but I present these remarks as evidence of what was probably the prevailing view among IFBs in the 60s with regard to the Vietnam War and on Communism in general.
John Kerry was another loser. Nobody in my family cared for Fonda, either.Born in 69 so no direct memories, but my Air Force dad instilled into me a GREAT dislike for the traitor Jane Fonda and her propagandizing ilk.
It was indeed the prevailing view amongst the IFB churches I was involved in growing up. We were "taught" (more like brainwashed) into accepting this viewpoint. Looking back, I truly believe I probably would have been among the protestors of the war, though I'd probably still hold a conservative view of most things. Dying for our own country is one thing, but to die for a country that didn't want to fight and win a war and gave in so easily, I couldn't have cared less.From the booklet "War in Vietnam" by John R. Rice, published in 1966 by Sword of the Lord Publishers, Murfreesboro, Tennessee, pp. 15-16:
"Good Christians should obey the government when young men are drafted for the war in Vietnam or protection of American homeland. . . .I believe that the enslavement of millions of people by communism is indescribably wicked. Any good Christian ought to have a holy indignation over it. I think that America sinned through our government in holding back General MacArthur and preventing outright victory in the Korean War. I believe our government sinned against God in holding back and letting Russian troops occupy Berlin and divide Germany. I believe that before that, the American government greatly sinned in being soft on communism, and turning the mainland of China principally over to the Communists and thus betraying our friend, Chiang Kai-Shek. I have no doubt that if there is ever a holy and righteous cause for war, it is to prevent godless communism with its murder and torture and persecution from taking over other lands which ask our help. But these things are settled by the government and good Christians obey the laws of the land, because the Bible commands us to do so."
I am not necessarily endorsing Rice's views on Korea, Berlin or China, but I present these remarks as evidence of what was probably the prevailing view among IFBs in the 60s with regard to the Vietnam War and on Communism in general.
My wife had two uncles who fought in Nam. One recently passed away, and he was a very staunch believermy dad remembers it very well.... born in 59 he was too young to be a part of it... but he had several older friends and cousins who fought in vietnam.. .... one of them is buried not far from here at punchbowl cemetery.... .there is another one buried there who was a navy medic he trained and was killed in iraq.... we go there every veterans day and memorial day to visit and pay respects....
My dad missed being draft age by only about two years. My uncle went in the Navy to avoid being drafted, but he was in a submarine during the last remnants of the war, so he didn’t have the typical Vietnam military experience of others.my dad remembers it very well.... born in 59 he was too young to be a part of it... but he had several older friends and cousins who fought in vietnam.. .... one of them is buried not far from here at punchbowl cemetery.... .there is another one buried there who was a navy medic he trained and was killed in iraq.... we go there every veterans day and memorial day to visit and pay respects....
Unfortunately we lost that war to keep communism off our shores. It just got snuck in through a back door (Hollywood, colleges and now K-12 public schools…and I hate to say, the ideology is even being trickled in through some churches).I can agree with the notion of it being better to fight communism on foreign soil than in our backyard.
While its not popular to say here You should listen to Satan's Bid for your Child by Jack Hyles. It is pretty prophetic to what we see today IMOUnfortunately we lost that war to keep communism off our shores. It just got snuck in through a back door (Hollywood, colleges and now K-12 public schools…and I hate to say, the ideology is even being trickled in through some churches).
I will listen to it. I listened to the first few minutes on YouTube and he was saying that public schools when he was young were like a Pentecostal revival compared to today…but I’m imagining he preached this sermon thirty or forty years ago??? Imagine what he’d say today!While its not popular to say here You should listen to Satan's Bid for your Child by Jack Hyles. It is pretty prophetic to what we see today IMO
my dad told me his cousin who was killed in vietnam was part of the brown water navy....(rivers and backwater patrols)... and was in the mekong delta area when he died.. .... he had another cousin who was given a choice of vietnam or prison after a conviction on marijuana possession.... ..... he actually joined the marine corps and survived the war.... but ended up getting into more drugs while he was over there than he ever thought about at home...... .he ended up living the life of a criminal too.... ..the vietnam war took what was bad about him and made him worse.... ... ..... ... after vietnam the laws were changed and judges can no longer give a person the choice between jail or the military..... .My biological father is a Marine veteran. My wife's cousin, two late uncles, one of our nephews, and two of our nieces are veterans. Our families have a history of service to this country. I'm proud of all of them. Also, I have a brother who served in both the Navy and the Army. It's a shame that he's living a life of a criminal now. I've not spoken to him in over 20 years, but do keep tabs on him through law enforcement and friends in the Orlando area.