Voting Alignment: Christian or Policy

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Texas is offering an excellent "story problem" for voting one's conscience.

Some argue that you should for vote for a Christian.

Others argue that you should vote for a person who holds correct policies.

Talarico claims to be a Christian

Paxton does not and he is aligning with good policies

Is this really a difficult choice?
 
FSSL said:
Texas is offering an excellent "story problem" for voting one's conscience.

Some argue that you should for vote for a Christian.

Others argue that you should vote for a person who holds correct policies.

Talarico claims to be a Christian

Paxton does not and he is aligning with good policies

Is this really a difficult choice?
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I just had this conversation with a coworker the other day. He was teasing me, as he is a moderate to center right democrat, about Vivek Ramaswamy (running for Ohio’s governor). Ramaswamy is not a Christian, but a Hindu, and my coworker was yanking my chain that I could not vote for him in good conscience. I told him point blank that I could easily vote for a non-Christian who has the right policies over a person who claims to be a Christian, but governs from a policy perspective that is not actually biblical.
 
FSSL said:
Texas is offering an excellent "story problem" for voting one's conscience.

Some argue that you should for vote for a Christian.

Others argue that you should vote for a person who holds correct policies.

Talarico claims to be a Christian

Paxton does not and he is aligning with good policies

Is this really a difficult choice?
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For me it is not difficult.
I always vote MY conscience.
If the choice is between a candidate who espoused wicked policies ( abortion, trans, etc) but claims to be Christian vs a candidate who espoused righteous policies (closed border, balanced budget, liberty, etc) but does NOT claim to be Christian, then I always vote for the righteous one.
Biblically: I believe we are to oppose the obvious wolves in sheep's clothing.
 
voicecrying said:
Has anyone argued that on this forum?
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I’m not sure that has happened.
However much has been postured about having a moral clause or standard in making the choice.

The standard has never been clearly stated but not holding to
said standard has been criticized.
 
biscuit1953 said:
This says a lot.
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James Talarico strikes me less as a real person, and more as what the right wing thinks a caricature of a progressive Democrat should look like: all in for every fashionable left-wing cause, pronouns on his business card, recites clichés in liberal churches, photographed handling food awkwardly, kind of small and wimpy.

It's almost as though they tried first with the Tim Walz simulation, then had to go back to the drawing board because it was still too manly.
 
i know i told this story before.. .... but several years ago - when romney was running against obama.... i was still working on the fishing boat - we were down at the auction block after bringing in a marlin and a tuna... . ... and i over heard 2 hawaiian fishermen talking about the upcoming election.. ..... one asked.. "who you gonna vote for bruddah?"....... ... the other answered .... "well - last time i voted obama coz i thought he was gonna let us smoke weed... .. but he nevah.. ......so now i;m gonna romney coz at least he will let us have guns...... "

with many people out there the choice of who to vote can be just that simple..... a personal choice over what they think is good for them... never mind what is best for the country..... ... ... ... and that;s one reason why we are in the mess we are in.......

i had a feeling that if both weed and guns had been available for those fishermen.... and the price of their diesel fuel stayed low...... they wouldn;t have voted at all......
 
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Ransom said:
Cannabis, boats, and guns. Sounds like a winning combination.
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yep... . . and budweiser red... .. for some reason that was always the beverage of choice for the fishermen down there... . .....even without the guns and the weed it got real scary down there after dark.... ..
 
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FSSL said:
Texas is offering an excellent "story problem" for voting one's conscience.

Some argue that you should for vote for a Christian.

Others argue that you should vote for a person who holds correct policies.

Talarico claims to be a Christian

Paxton does not and he is aligning with good policies

Is this really a difficult choice?
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I have not followed Paxon closely but have read articles that he is outspoken in his faith. I believe he belongs to a Baptist church.
 
Many Christians have prayed for our country and our President with pure motives and have endorsed flawed men and women for public office in contrast to those in what used to be the Democratic Party but is now nothing more than a Socialist, anti-God cesspool that wishes to control every aspect of our lives. Yet there are Christians who accuse anyone who supports Trump as being part of a cult. I don’t look for any man to bring about world peace because only the Lord Jesus Christ can bring that about but I do wish to promote those who would allow freedom of liberty in religion and speech which we have enjoyed to a remarkable degree in America. When Biden was president I prayed for him on a daily basis as well as all of our political leaders that God would change their hearts to make moral decisions and do the same for Donald Trump. I thank God that he allowed a flawed man to lead our country that isn’t diametrically opposed to everything Christian.
 
After a lot of soul searching and prayer, several years ago, I aligned my life with 2 Corinthians 6:17-18 and stopped voting.

17:Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18: and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Finding the right politicians is like finding a clean spot in a freshly laid cow patty.
 
biscuit1953 said:
I have not followed Paxon closely but have read articles that he is outspoken in his faith. I believe he belongs to a Baptist church.
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Paxton is evidently an adulterer charged with ethics violations and Talarico is a far left loon who thinks God is nonbinary and that there are 6 sexes and the Bible is silent on killing children in the womb.

If I were still a Texan, it would be another hold my nose and vote situation, but the choice would be obvious…to me at least. In politics, policy and position on issues are paramount.
Sadly, many times what they say and what they do conflict, but that’s another thread.
 
Plowman said:
After a lot of soul searching and prayer, several years ago, I aligned my life with 2 Corinthians 6:17-18 and stopped voting.

17:Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18: and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Finding the right politicians is like finding a clean spot in a freshly laid cow patty.
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Very tragic application of this passage.😞
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Paxton is evidently an adulterer charged with ethics violations
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Some details about the massive ethics violations, and the adultery:

thebarbedwire.com

Ken Paxton Is No Stranger to Controversy. Here’s a Timeline of Nearly 20 Years of Scandals & Headlines.

We’ve compiled every serious scandal the Texas Attorney General has faced during his political ascendancy.
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"In 2018, Ken Paxton gathered his staff, and with his wife by his side, confessed to them that he had been having an affair, and promised to recommit to his marriage, the Texas Tribune reported. . . . After Paxton’s acquittal, his lawyers disputed many of the allegations brought against him, but not the infidelity. . . .

". . . the Paxtons had been claiming three different homes (one in Dallas and two in Austin) as their primary residence, saving them thousands of dollars in mortgage loan payments. Paxton was also simultaneously collecting tax breaks on two different homes in 2018, via a homestead exemption that is only meant for a single, primary residence, according to reports from the AP."

It's another "hold your nose," "lesser of two evils" situation. It's no surprise that Demon-crats like to nominate repulsive, ethically challenged candidates, but why must Republicans also do so? I suppose that as a Texan I would have to vote for Paxton due to his mostly correct political positions, but he never should have been nominated, and Republicans will have to put a lot more money and effort to get him over the hump running against the woke, sanctimonious leftie Talarico.

As for Paxton's religious affiliation, he identifies as Christian (big deal, so does Talarico) but I find nothing online that says that Paxton is Baptist. I'm not sure what good it would be if he was. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Jesse Jackson were all good, pious, sanctimonious Baptists.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Paxton is evidently an adulterer charged with ethics violations and Talarico is a far left loon who thinks God is nonbinary and that there are 6 sexes and the Bible is silent on killing children in the womb.

If I were still a Texan, it would be another hold my nose and vote situation, but the choice would be obvious…to me at least. In politics, policy and position on issues are paramount.
Sadly, many times what they say and what they do conflict, but that’s another thread.
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Another case where, at least on a personal level, I would look at them both and declare a plague on both their houses.

But Paxton's scandals are personal. He's not advocating for pro-adultery or pro-insider laws. Talarico's progressive talking points about abortion, gay rights, immigration, and so forth touch on hot-button policy issues. They're both garbage people, but one is clearly more dangerous than the other.
 
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