What I saw in church this week..............

Tarheel Baptist said:
bgwilkinson said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
bgwilkinson said:
fishinnut said:
bgwilkinson said:
Sunday AM October 22, 2017.

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Except for a funeral I attended, I haven't been in a church with pews in over 10 years. BTW, it looks like a lot of space between the pews there. Did they take some out & spread them out?

These are pew backed theater seats. The seats are spring loaded and move to the full upright position if you don't hold them down.

Because the seats flip up the space between the seat backs is wide enough to be rated as a fire aisle.  This rating allows the number of isles to be greatly reduced which greatly increases the number of theater seats in a given space.

In the pic, you see in the foreground an area where the seats have been removed so that an 80' lift can more easily be moved in and out without the hassle of taking the seats in and out.

Other than these few seats all other seats are installed as they were when the building opened in 2005. The building still seats around 6,200.

Completely off the OP?s topic, but why ?pew backed theatre seats??

Sorry, I thought I explained the reasoning. When the seats automatically flip up you can easily walk between the seats and the pew back of the unit in front of you. This gives you a greater density of seating because you need fewer aisles.

I believe there are 30 inches available as a walkway so it is rather easy to walk between the seats as if they were not there, because of this spacing it counts as a fire aisle and means you can have 20 to 30 or more seats in a row and still abide by fire egress regulations. There is no need to wiggle sideways as we did in the old auditorium. Every row of seating is in effect a legal fire aisle.

The old pews did not meet fire regulations and were a hazard to our safety. They were highly illegal and opened us up to massive litigation had something happened that required speedy evacuation of the old building. That is why we have so few aisles in the new building compared to other auditoriums using pews.

The old building now uses far greater chair spacing than the old pews used. No, you can not cram or stuff as many people in the building now, but they are a whole lot safer should rapid egress be required. Of course, that means the old building now holds about 20% fewer people than it did with those old pews.

I understood about the logistics of individual chairs and spacing. But why not simply have chairs? I would assume the pew look added cost to the project.
I was there for several meetings, involved in planning.

In fact, B.G. W. Had a huge part in the project.

So he can correct me, if I'm fuzzy on the details, but I think the solid back was cheaper than the individual theatre seats.

One aspect which we really liked, was that there were far less bolt down points, with these. 

It makes sense at the time, for a variety of reasons.

I spent 2 years sitting in those pews, and they are very practical, especially to move for big events.

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prophet said:
...and they are very practical, especially to move for big events.

Hockey?  Basketball?
 
What I saw in church this week..............

A normal looking lady with bright blue (think Smurf) hair......
 
fishinnut said:
What I saw in church this week..............

A normal looking lady with bright blue (think Smurf) hair......

So...having bright blue hair is normal?
 
fishinnut said:
What I saw in church this week..............

A normal looking lady with bright blue (think Smurf) hair......

Did she ride a bus?
 
RAIDER said:
fishinnut said:
What I saw in church this week..............

A normal looking lady with bright blue (think Smurf) hair......

Did she ride a bus?
No this was not someone who had the lowest attendance on their bus & had to dye their hair blue.

She was too tall to be a Smurf. ::)
 
Twisted said:
prophet said:
...and they are very practical, especially to move for big events.

Hockey?  Basketball?

Some of the old timers here can help me out, if I'm incorrect on a detail...

But a funny story....  when the new auditorium was being built, a prototype of a chair was brought into the old auditorium, and people could "test them out..." 

Anyway, during a Wed PM Service (I think), there was a bang! and some of the new chairs had collapsed :)
 
Sunday, November 5, 2017, AM Service

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Can't post income totals as they were not listed in the handout. Of course, considering that twice in the last few months the second week is obviously a duplicate of the first maybe this is better and we will just think about our history of the last 130 years.

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I watched "phone zombies" walking, stopping & texting as they walked around in the aisles at church today.
 
The church I attend has never had a handout bulletin.

A website, twitter & Instagram has all the info needed.
 
prophet said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
bgwilkinson said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
bgwilkinson said:
fishinnut said:
bgwilkinson said:
Sunday AM October 22, 2017.

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Except for a funeral I attended, I haven't been in a church with pews in over 10 years. BTW, it looks like a lot of space between the pews there. Did they take some out & spread them out?

These are pew backed theater seats. The seats are spring loaded and move to the full upright position if you don't hold them down.

Because the seats flip up the space between the seat backs is wide enough to be rated as a fire aisle.  This rating allows the number of isles to be greatly reduced which greatly increases the number of theater seats in a given space.

In the pic, you see in the foreground an area where the seats have been removed so that an 80' lift can more easily be moved in and out without the hassle of taking the seats in and out.

Other than these few seats all other seats are installed as they were when the building opened in 2005. The building still seats around 6,200.

Completely off the OP?s topic, but why ?pew backed theatre seats??

Sorry, I thought I explained the reasoning. When the seats automatically flip up you can easily walk between the seats and the pew back of the unit in front of you. This gives you a greater density of seating because you need fewer aisles.

I believe there are 30 inches available as a walkway so it is rather easy to walk between the seats as if they were not there, because of this spacing it counts as a fire aisle and means you can have 20 to 30 or more seats in a row and still abide by fire egress regulations. There is no need to wiggle sideways as we did in the old auditorium. Every row of seating is in effect a legal fire aisle.

The old pews did not meet fire regulations and were a hazard to our safety. They were highly illegal and opened us up to massive litigation had something happened that required speedy evacuation of the old building. That is why we have so few aisles in the new building compared to other auditoriums using pews.

The old building now uses far greater chair spacing than the old pews used. No, you can not cram or stuff as many people in the building now, but they are a whole lot safer should rapid egress be required. Of course, that means the old building now holds about 20% fewer people than it did with those old pews.

I understood about the logistics of individual chairs and spacing. But why not simply have chairs? I would assume the pew look added cost to the project.
I was there for several meetings, involved in planning.

In fact, B.G. W. Had a huge part in the project.

So he can correct me, if I'm fuzzy on the details, but I think the solid back was cheaper than the individual theatre seats.

One aspect which we really liked, was that there were far less bolt down points, with these. 

It makes sense at the time, for a variety of reasons.

I spent 2 years sitting in those pews, and they are very practical, especially to move for big events.

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Here are a few pics of the seating system.

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bgwilkinson said:
Sunday, November 5, 2017, AM Service

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Can't post income totals as they were not listed in the handout. Of course, considering that twice in the last few months the second week is obviously a duplicate of the first maybe this is better and we will just think about our history of the last 130 years.

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You definitely had some great growth when that Hyles fellow was pastoring!
 
RAIDER said:
bgwilkinson said:
Sunday, November 5, 2017, AM Service

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23131709_1903276336354299_1226383583858863426_n.jpg


Can't post income totals as they were not listed in the handout. Of course, considering that twice in the last few months the second week is obviously a duplicate of the first maybe this is better and we will just think about our history of the last 130 years.

23316324_1903049686376964_6079128840092975545_n.jpg


23131917_1903049799710286_1534071530449520935_n.jpg


23131736_1903049769710289_5012387876105283835_n.jpg


23131955_1903049726376960_659714063550169910_n.jpg


23316586_1903049669710299_8875502296785414320_n.jpg


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You definitely had some great growth when that Hyles fellow was pastoring!

Very true in the 80s.
Had reversed totally in the 90s.
 
Live Christmas music in the lobby before one of the 5 services.

Text response to the salvation appeal.........over 200 responses for the service I attended.

O Holy Night sung by this singer........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=176&v=dZZdZAahWhI
 
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