Worship Team vs Choir... Another boring non-nudity thread ;)

[prophet]

The choir came from Rome, and Rome can keep it.

earnestly contend

Ummmmm, the choir came from Solomon (II Chron. 5 FF).  But thanks for playing.

Solomon had singers at a grand opening, and this institutes doctrine for the Church?

...

Neither doctrine nor command.  However, that he set a precedent, recorded under inspiration, that singers (i.e., choir) are appropriate for times of mandated corporate worship is pretty easy to see.

prophet has an unusual concept of what is and isn't a church...imo.
So, it stands to reason he would have the same 'reasoning' as to a choir in church.
But in both instances, he is the...his definitive authority.

Yes, the Scriptural example being "unusual"....



earnestly contend

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

The choir came from Rome, and Rome can keep it.

earnestly contend

Ummmmm, the choir came from Solomon (II Chron. 5 FF).  But thanks for playing.

Solomon had singers at a grand opening, and this institutes doctrine for the Church?

Does God's Glory fill your sanctuary, when your trumpeters blow?

Is every Sunday the grand opening?

The example for music in the assembly comes from the Gospels if anywhere:

Matthew 26:30
And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives.

Please don't interrupt until you've actually read the passages you reference, the adults are talking.

earnestly contend

There is NO doctrine for the church, as to having or not having a choir.
And why does your verse trump his verse?
Neither of them offer any sense of a command for or prohibition against a choir.

And, your 'the adults are talking' comment seems juvenile to me....

I gave a related NT example, of the Disciples assembled with Jesus (in the first church building), and somehow this is not relevant?

Maybe you should stand in the corner, little mister!

earnestly contend

His verse had as much to do with regulating church practice as your's.
Maybe you should join me in the corner, large ego.

Who is talking about regulating?

I started this debacle, by saying that Church Choirs began in Rome (RCC).

I showed the only example of singing in the assembly mentioned anywhere in the NT, as congregational hymns.

Bear the burden of proving that right, or wrong, or stay out of the way.

I feel sorry for those to whom you minister, if you resort to Freudian nonsense whenever the truth is being discussed.

earnestly contend

And, I disagree that Rome originated the concept of a choir in a public worship/church gathering.
Anchor is right, it began with OT worship.
A choir is neither mandated or forbidden.
So, truthfully it doesn't matter.
Ephesians 5:19 can be obeyed by singing in a choir, a quintet, a duet, a trio, or singing in the shower.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

The choir came from Rome, and Rome can keep it.

earnestly contend

Ummmmm, the choir came from Solomon (II Chron. 5 FF).  But thanks for playing.

Solomon had singers at a grand opening, and this institutes doctrine for the Church?

...

Neither doctrine nor command.  However, that he set a precedent, recorded under inspiration, that singers (i.e., choir) are appropriate for times of mandated corporate worship is pretty easy to see.

prophet has an unusual concept of what is and isn't a church...imo.
So, it stands to reason he would have the same 'reasoning' as to a choir in church.
But in both instances, he is the...his definitive authority.

Yes, the Scriptural example being "unusual"....



earnestly contend

When* I think of you, unusual is THE word that comes to mind.

 

[prophet]

The choir came from Rome, and Rome can keep it.

earnestly contend

Ummmmm, the choir came from Solomon (II Chron. 5 FF).  But thanks for playing.

Solomon had singers at a grand opening, and this institutes doctrine for the Church?

...

Neither doctrine nor command.  However, that he set a precedent, recorded under inspiration, that singers (i.e., choir) are appropriate for times of mandated corporate worship is pretty easy to see.

prophet has an unusual concept of what is and isn't a church...imo.
So, it stands to reason he would have the same 'reasoning' as to a choir in church.
But in both instances, he is the...his definitive authority.

Yes, the Scriptural example being "unusual"....



earnestly contend

When* I think of you, unusual is THE word that comes to mind.

I'm not surprised, or offended in the least, at that.

earnestly contend

 

[prophet]

The choir came from Rome, and Rome can keep it.

earnestly contend

Ummmmm, the choir came from Solomon (II Chron. 5 FF).  But thanks for playing.

Solomon had singers at a grand opening, and this institutes doctrine for the Church?

Does God's Glory fill your sanctuary, when your trumpeters blow?

Is every Sunday the grand opening?

The example for music in the assembly comes from the Gospels if anywhere:

Matthew 26:30
And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives.

Please don't interrupt until you've actually read the passages you reference, the adults are talking.

earnestly contend

There is NO doctrine for the church, as to having or not having a choir.
And why does your verse trump his verse?
Neither of them offer any sense of a command for or prohibition against a choir.

And, your 'the adults are talking' comment seems juvenile to me....

I gave a related NT example, of the Disciples assembled with Jesus (in the first church building), and somehow this is not relevant?

Maybe you should stand in the corner, little mister!

earnestly contend

His verse had as much to do with regulating church practice as your's.
Maybe you should join me in the corner, large ego.

Who is talking about regulating?

I started this debacle, by saying that Church Choirs began in Rome (RCC).

I showed the only example of singing in the assembly mentioned anywhere in the NT, as congregational hymns.

Bear the burden of proving that right, or wrong, or stay out of the way.

I feel sorry for those to whom you minister, if you resort to Freudian nonsense whenever the truth is being discussed.

earnestly contend

And, I disagree that Rome originated the concept of a choir in a public worship/church gathering.
Anchor is right, it began with OT worship.
A choir is neither mandated or forbidden.
So, truthfully it doesn't matter.
Ephesians 5:19 can be obeyed by singing in a choir, a quintet, a duet, a trio, or singing in the shower.

The practice of choir, in the Church, began in RCC....

Try to focus.

earnestly contend

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Ephesians 5:19 can be obeyed by singing in a choir, a quintet, a duet, a trio, or singing in the shower.

..speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit

Umm...hopefully the "one another" in the shower is a bit limited.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

The choir came from Rome, and Rome can keep it.

earnestly contend

Ummmmm, the choir came from Solomon (II Chron. 5 FF).  But thanks for playing.

Solomon had singers at a grand opening, and this institutes doctrine for the Church?

Does God's Glory fill your sanctuary, when your trumpeters blow?

Is every Sunday the grand opening?

The example for music in the assembly comes from the Gospels if anywhere:

Matthew 26:30
And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives.

Please don't interrupt until you've actually read the passages you reference, the adults are talking.

earnestly contend

There is NO doctrine for the church, as to having or not having a choir.
And why does your verse trump his verse?
Neither of them offer any sense of a command for or prohibition against a choir.

And, your 'the adults are talking' comment seems juvenile to me....

I gave a related NT example, of the Disciples assembled with Jesus (in the first church building), and somehow this is not relevant?

Maybe you should stand in the corner, little mister!

earnestly contend

His verse had as much to do with regulating church practice as your's.
Maybe you should join me in the corner, large ego.

Who is talking about regulating?

I started this debacle, by saying that Church Choirs began in Rome (RCC).

I showed the only example of singing in the assembly mentioned anywhere in the NT, as congregational hymns.

Bear the burden of proving that right, or wrong, or stay out of the way.

I feel sorry for those to whom you minister, if you resort to Freudian nonsense whenever the truth is being discussed.

earnestly contend

And, I disagree that Rome originated the concept of a choir in a public worship/church gathering.
Anchor is right, it began with OT worship.
A choir is neither mandated or forbidden.
So, truthfully it doesn't matter.
Ephesians 5:19 can be obeyed by singing in a choir, a quintet, a duet, a trio, or singing in the shower.

The practice of choir, in the Church, began in RCC....

Try to focus.

earnestly contend

To believe that, one would have to agree that the RCC is a 'church'. In the NT spiritual sense of the word.
The OT temple worship is closer to the NT concept than Rome, again, IMO.

But, in one has a kitchen table church, choir is a non starter anyway. 

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Ephesians 5:19 can be obeyed by singing in a choir, a quintet, a duet, a trio, or singing in the shower.

..speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit

Umm...hopefully the "one another" in the shower is a bit limited.

You never showered after PE class singing a spiritual song? 

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Ephesians 5:19 can be obeyed by singing in a choir, a quintet, a duet, a trio, or singing in the shower.

..speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit

Umm...hopefully the "one another" in the shower is a bit limited.

You never showered after PE class singing a spiritual song? 

Nah, I was too busy avoiding the 'wet towel snap'.

 

[Anchor]

...
Nah, I was too busy avoiding the 'wet towel snap'.

Probably the wisest choice communicated in this entire discussion

 

[prophet]

The choir came from Rome, and Rome can keep it.

earnestly contend

Ummmmm, the choir came from Solomon (II Chron. 5 FF).  But thanks for playing.

Solomon had singers at a grand opening, and this institutes doctrine for the Church?

Does God's Glory fill your sanctuary, when your trumpeters blow?

Is every Sunday the grand opening?

The example for music in the assembly comes from the Gospels if anywhere:

Matthew 26:30
And when they had sung an hymn, they went out into the mount of Olives.

Please don't interrupt until you've actually read the passages you reference, the adults are talking.

earnestly contend

There is NO doctrine for the church, as to having or not having a choir.
And why does your verse trump his verse?
Neither of them offer any sense of a command for or prohibition against a choir.

And, your 'the adults are talking' comment seems juvenile to me....

I gave a related NT example, of the Disciples assembled with Jesus (in the first church building), and somehow this is not relevant?

Maybe you should stand in the corner, little mister!

earnestly contend

His verse had as much to do with regulating church practice as your's.
Maybe you should join me in the corner, large ego.

Who is talking about regulating?

I started this debacle, by saying that Church Choirs began in Rome (RCC).

I showed the only example of singing in the assembly mentioned anywhere in the NT, as congregational hymns.

Bear the burden of proving that right, or wrong, or stay out of the way.

I feel sorry for those to whom you minister, if you resort to Freudian nonsense whenever the truth is being discussed.

earnestly contend

And, I disagree that Rome originated the concept of a choir in a public worship/church gathering.
Anchor is right, it began with OT worship.
A choir is neither mandated or forbidden.
So, truthfully it doesn't matter.
Ephesians 5:19 can be obeyed by singing in a choir, a quintet, a duet, a trio, or singing in the shower.

The practice of choir, in the Church, began in RCC....

Try to focus.

earnestly contend

To believe that, one would have to agree that the RCC is a 'church'. In the NT spiritual sense of the word.
The OT temple worship is closer to the NT concept than Rome, again, IMO.

But, in one has a kitchen table church, choir is a non starter anyway. 

One would have to know that Protestant Christian practice has its origins in the RCC.

Not sure what you're blathering about.

earnestly contend

 

[Jubal Sackett]

I personally find the worship team annoying. I don't care to be sung into a trance.  I just wish that some church somewhere could do something original instead following the lead of every mega church in the US. It seems that we all got "purpose driven" all of a sudden and it was run down everybody's throat.

Jubal Sackett