Whosoever in John 3:16.

[Ransom]

O Jerusalem,Jerusalem, which killest the prophets,and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings,and ye would not!

You can't read, either. Who are "thy children," and who are "ye"?

As I said in the other thread--would you mind putting someone smart on? Clearly you're out of your league.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

No, I haven’t read Luther’s book, but that seems like you’re sidestepping the issue. Do you believe a toddler or an adult with special needs (mental) is incapable of going to heaven because of their lack of ability to freely choose the plan of salvation?

I didn’t think you’d read it but you never know. Give it a read .
No I don’t believe that and neither did David.
Do you believe men are ordained to eternal life because they believe or do men believe because they are ordained to eternal life?

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Whosoever is in the Greek manuscript. If it doesn’t fit their dogma Calvinist just change it.

I think on the contrary they believe exactly what was said. Whosever believes on Him has eternal life.

 

[Leatherneck0311]

I think on the contrary they believe exactly what was said. Whosever believes on Him has eternal life.

The only problem they believe the whosoever is elected before they were born.

 

[Leatherneck0311]

You can't read, either. Who are "thy children," and who are "ye"?

As I said in the other thread--would you mind putting someone smart on? Clearly you're out of your league.

Anything to avoid the oblivious. Got ya.

 

[Leatherneck0311]

I guess you're kind of an authority on fleas, at least the mental kind.

lol, if you have nothing important to say why post ?

 

[Leatherneck0311]

I guess you're kind of an authority on fleas, at least the mental kind.

They are easy to spot they generally twist scripture to make it say what they want it to say. Kinda like you do.

 

[Dr. Huk-N-Duck]

I didn’t think you’d read it but you never know. Give it a read .
No I don’t believe that and neither did David.
Do you believe men are ordained to eternal life because they believe or do men believe because they are ordained to eternal life?

I guess I’d say men believe because they are ordained to eternal life. If man knew there’s no afterlife, he’d live in a state of anarchy and hedonism, which many do anyway.

 

[Ransom]

Typical Calvinist proud, arrogant ,and scripturally unsound.

I notice none of that is a denial that you lied.

 

[Ransom]

They are easy to spot they generally twist scripture to make it say what they want it to say. Kinda like you do.

Takes one to know one.

 

[Leatherneck0311]

I notice none of that is a denial that you lied.

Because I didn’t lie. You must believe you know everything right ?

 

[Leatherneck0311]

TakesThere it is again one to know one.

I notice none of that is a denial that you lied.

Rev 22:17 - And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. There it is again the invitation “come”.Oh wait there it is “ whosoever”will take the water of life freely. I believe scripture exposes Calvinist to be what they are I.e. deceived liars who twist scripture to make it say what they want it so say.

 

[Ransom]

Oh wait there it is “ whosoever”

Already covered. You sure aren't up to following this conversation, are you?

 

[Leatherneck0311]

Already covered. You sure aren't up to following this conversation, are you?

Not my fault YOU don’t understand it.

 

[Ransom]

Not my fault YOU don’t understand it.

I understand it fine. You're just wrong.

 

[Leatherneck0311]

I understand it fine. You're just wrong.

Got ya thinking some hit the cosmic lottery and made it to heaven while others lost out in the cosmic lottery who are heading for hell is a Calvinist lie it isn’t in scripture.

 

[Ransom]

Got ya thinking some hit the cosmic lottery and made it to heaven while others lost out in the cosmic lottery who are heading for hell is a Calvinist lie it isn’t in scripture.

Calvinists don't believe in a "cosmic lottery."

Also, please learn to punctuate.

 

[AverageJoe]

Lol, one out of three ain’t bad.

You must be speaking in an "unknown tongue" because I didn't understand anything you just said. Care to explain, short bus?

 

[Leatherneck0311]

Calvinists don't believe in a "cosmic lottery."

Also, please learn to punctuate.

I only took 3 college English courses 101,102 and British literature. Complete waste of time, but it does give internet warriors something to nit pick about. Ok some are elected and the rest go to hell I would call that a cosmic lottery.

 

[ALAYMAN]

I answered you, Internet forums are not the place to do exegesis. It's not a 3 line answer. Anything longer than that and I am not reading it from someone on a forum.

No, you dodged me and you're doing it again. I'm not asking you for a treatise or manifesto, just a simple answer. Why do you believe that passage is referring to a lost person? And I gave you a bailout question as well, just point me to somebody reputable that wrote something, short or long, that claims a reason for believing that that passage refers to a lost person.