Trump is now a political liability.

illinoisguy said:
Yes, this was a referendum on election denial, and that turned out to be a losing issue. They are calling it the "Mypillow-ization of the GOP." I am sure the Demon-crats are hoping we will run on that same tired old hoax issue again in 2024, so we can lose bigger next time.

Now for a history lesson. William Howard Taft, the incumbent Presidential candidate in 1912, was a perfectly good and decent Progressive Republican, but former President Theodore Roosevelt convinced himself that Taft wasn't progressive enough, he got his undies in a bunch about it, he ran against Taft on the Bull Moose ticket in a personal grudge match. The two Republicans got far more popular votes than Democrat Woodrow Wilson, but by splitting the Republican vote, they delivered the election to Wilson. Are we going to let old Trumpo divide us and repeat history in 2024?

PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATEPOLITICAL PARTYELECTORAL VOTESPOPULAR VOTES
Woodrow WilsonDemocratic4356,293,454
Theodore RooseveltProgressive (Bull Moose)884,119,207
William Howard TaftRepublican83,483,922
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Say what you want. I think the following know better than you.

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The red wave that wasn't: An election postmortem

Well, that was disheartening, dispiriting, and demoralizing. We went into the party with a president with some of the lowest approval ratings in history and Americans (at least according to the polls) focused like lasers on issues that cou...
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So how did we get here?​
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In a way, the easiest answer is that our election system is completely corrupt. It's easy to blame the GOP for letting that happen, but Mollie Hemingway reminds us that a corrupt judge and a forty-year-long consent decree meant that, beginning in 1981, "The RNC had been prohibited by law from helping with poll watcher efforts or nearly any voting-related litigation."​
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That forty-year period gave the Democrats the ability to lay the groundwork for a fortress of election corruption. Then, thanks to COVID, the Democrats were able to build high walls for that fortress, walls built from mail-in ballots; drop boxes; ballot-harvesting; driver's licenses for illegal aliens; no ID for actual elections; endless pre-elections; and, most importantly, machines that can be gamed.​
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The same goes for the 2020 rioting and breakdown of civic order. DeSantis stood firm against BLM, and voters rewarded him. Trump, trying not to be the dictator that Democrats claimed he was, gave the rioters free rein. He didn't endear himself to the left, and he angered the right.​
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If I were the one advising Trump, I would say he needs to move from candidate to kingmaker. Although it's entirely unfair that he's not in the White House, his day is gone. However, if he throws his weight behind DeSantis, their combined popularity may finally be enough to overcome the fortress of fraud that the Democrats have constructed around American elections.​


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Why the red tsunami seems to have hit only Florida

As vote counts continue to be posted, it is clear that Republican hopes and dreams of a huge wave election have been dashed. Instead of a large House majority and solid control of the Senate, Republicans will be lucky to have small majorit...
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Ron DeSantis displayed gutsy leadership in confronting COVID, enduring taunts as "DeathSantis" and far worse as he refused to cower before the might of Dr. Fauci, the medical establishment, Big Pharma, the media, and Democrat politicians. As a result, Florida prospered as other states closed down their businesses and schools. (The other governor who resisted the panic, South Dakota's Kristi Noem, won with an even bigger margin: 26.8 points with 97% of the vote counted.) ​
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Voting integrity systems were put in place in Florida after the state became a national laughingstock in the wake of the 2000 presidential election, and "hanging chad" became a symbol of questionable vote totals. Florida permits any registered voter to request an absentee ballot, but the request has to be received by the office of the local supervisor of elections by the close of business ten days before the election. Only the voter or an immediate family member can make the request. There are no mass mailings of vote-by-mail ballots.​
 
Ekklesian said:
Says he who only offers ad hominem, tautology and red herrings. (y)
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Sorry, did you say something? I only heard the sound of escaping hot gas.

I'd address the substance of your arguments, except there isn't any because you actively avoid showing your work.
 
Huk said:
Trump will run as an in independent if doesn’t win the nomination. He’s threatened this before, and he will do it out of spite. I guarantee it.
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Even if he does, he won't gain votes. I know many Republicans who are tired of his old lines and are ready for new blood in the Republican party. Let's hope he doesn't do what he's threatening to do. This would just be more proof to me that he loves himself more than America or it's people.
 
Ransom said:
Sorry, did you say something? I only heard the sound of escaping hot gas.

I'd address the substance of your arguments, except there isn't any because you actively avoid showing your work.
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The history of our interaction does not start here. It starts over a year ago, where I did and do support my comments. And when you were challenged to do the same, you huffed and puffed.

So, I say, you first. Bring something other than your personality to the table, and I will respond in kind. (y)
 
Ekklesian said:
The history of our interaction does not start here. It starts over a year ago, where I did and do support my comments. And when you were challenged to do the same, you huffed and puffed.

So, I say, you first. Bring something other than your personality to the table, and I will respond in kind. (y)
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I have a feeling DeSantis would wipe the floor with Trump!
 
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Tarheel Baptist said:
I think it will be a ‘bloodbath’. My take on Trump is that if he can’t control the house he will burn it down and greatly hinder Republicans chance to win. He’s a me first, me only person
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And this is one reason he's too much of a liability. But, we have far too many people who worship this man instead of God and put him first in all they do. It's become very evident throughout many of the Christian circles that I associate with, and I've had to withdraw myself from their idolatry!
 
Even the conservative Washington Examiner says it's time for us to get off the idolatrous Trump-worship kick, and move on:




"If you compare Trump’s performance against senatorial and gubernatorial candidates, in both 2016 and 2020, he was a net drag on the ticket. If, as this column suggested more than once, the GOP had removed Trump and replaced him with the patriotic and high-minded Mike Pence, it would almost certainly have won the White House and both chambers in 2020.

"Backing a winner purely because he is a winner — that I get, even if it makes me uncomfortable. But backing a loser? Carrying on with the whole MAGA obsession after 2020? That’s just downright weird. There were no Nixonians after 1974, no Carterites after 1980. . . .

"The public seems at last to be rejecting the idea that democracy is contingent, that elections should count only when they happen to go your way. . . . Even some of those who have been going along with the Big Steal farrago are starting to sense, uneasily, that the institutions of a free republic are easier to tear down than to restore."
 
Bob Jones V said:
It has been time for a long time. I have 2 close friends, educated people, normally balanced, but if you bring up Trump, it is almost like he is the 4th person of the Trinity. They guy is emotionally unbalanced. Even though I did like his policies, he needs to go.
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My wife and I voted for him both times, though, after the first term we had grown weary of his shenanigans. I had to hold my nose when I marked him as my vote the second time. I couldn't and wouldn't vote for him if he won the nomination again. I have many friends from college, and from churches we attended in the past that seem to worship Trump more than Christ. They have Trump signs in their yards, and stickers on their cars, but they won't acknowledge Christ when in public. Something is wrong with evangelical Christianity today.
 
Bob Jones V said:
It has been time for a long time. I have 2 close friends, educated people, normally balanced, but if you bring up Trump, it is almost like he is the 4th person of the Trinity. They guy is emotionally unbalanced. Even though I did like his policies, he needs to go.
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Yes sir! My former youth pastor practically worships Trump and claims DeSantis is bigger RINO than Romney.
 
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