That’s probably more Hollywood than reality. I have no expertise on the subject outside of a little information from a psychology class or two, so I’m no expert, but I think what you’re describing is stuff seen in movies.
What are you listening to right now?
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Have you ever heard of any case where the voices are benevolent?and i;ve noticed that you only seem to notice things that feed preconceived notions you already have in your head......
there is is much more to schizophrenia than anything you think you noticed or think you know... .. most of what i hear... see or sense in other ways - is all based on memory..... things i have heard or been through before played over and over like a tape on an endless loop... sometimes multiple things at once... and that;s only part of what it is.....
and i tried to discuss this subject with you in good faith once before .... but you had no intention of discussing anything.... especially not in good faith..... . you just wanted a setting to profess your ignorance and a stage to make your points from...... .
i will not discuss this with you again....
but if you really want to learn something about schizophrenia go to college... . get assigned to a clinical internship working with schizophrenics.... . or just go out onto the street and try ministering to the homeless on your own... a large percentage of the homeless are schizophrenic........ ... but mind your manners and your Ps and Qs if you do that... ...walking into that world is easy... .. walking back out again might take a lot more in the way of diplomacy and communication skills than i have seen you display on this forum.... . you might have to actually.... **gasp**..... be nice to them....
........ ... let us know how it goes...
No, I'm describing what I've been told by those who hear voices, and the things I've come across over the years in news reports and documentaries.
One of those who hears voices is my girlfriend's daughter. She's on Clozapine, enough that she has her own mind back, but not enough to silence the voices completely. Kathy calls Clozapine a miracle drug. She syas she got her daughter back with it.
So what about you? Have you heard of any case in which the voices are benevolent?
You nailed it. "you just wanted a setting to profess your ignorance and a stage to make your points from...... . " He thinks that everyone other than him is stupid and uninformed. No wonder he had battles with his family.and i;ve noticed that you only seem to notice things that feed preconceived notions you already have in your head......
there is is much more to schizophrenia than anything you think you noticed or think you know... .. most of what i hear... see or sense in other ways - is all based on memory..... things i have heard or been through before played over and over like a tape on an endless loop... sometimes multiple things at once... and that;s only part of what it is.....
and i tried to discuss this subject with you in good faith once before .... but you had no intention of discussing anything.... especially not in good faith..... . you just wanted a setting to profess your ignorance and a stage to make your points from...... .
i will not discuss this with you again....
but if you really want to learn something about schizophrenia go to college... . get assigned to a clinical internship working with schizophrenics.... . or just go out onto the street and try ministering to the homeless on your own... a large percentage of the homeless are schizophrenic........ ... but mind your manners and your Ps and Qs if you do that... ...walking into that world is easy... .. walking back out again might take a lot more in the way of diplomacy and communication skills than i have seen you display on this forum.... . you might have to actually.... **gasp**..... be nice to them....
Maybe you've heard of one?
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you mean like a doggy affirmation tape?.......
not me personally... ... but i suppose it;s possible if
thats what someone heard in those moments when
the brain is susceptible to deep imprinting or synaptic
scarring....
when is scarring like that happens in early development/
childhood the brain can be more than just scarred by it...
it can cause parts of the brain to be wired wrong
the kinds of things that cause that are not generally
benevolent.....
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when i tried to discuss it with him before he pulled the it;s all demonic card on me.... ...it;s funny to see him try a different tact now..... i don;t trust him or anything he says about it..... .too many people online just want to troll and get a fight started for their own amusement.... .. and they go about it from all angles... and in many different ways......
Exactly like that. Or the voices could recite recipes or Milton? Or Scat (the Jazz type)?
I think if it's a brain thing only, it would be the case that we would hear of as much of that as of the scary stuff. I could be wrong, but that's how it seems to me.
In the case of my future step daughter...possibly, if Kathy can ever leave Colorado, or I can leave Missouri...it was a heroine overdose in her late teens. What would it be about the chemical reactions of heroine that spawn evil thoughts?
No, but my experience is very limited (which I admitted). The one psychology professor I had was a Christian, which is pretty astounding in a public college. He was very leery of the whole demon possession idea, but he admitted there were rare cases involving people hearing voices with no medical explanation, including brain scans and whatnot. (I’m guessing that’s what you’re driving at.)
Oh, here we go. No, you tried to take a discussion and make it all about you. Same here now. You tried to cow sub for his little quip about hearing voices with an assertion of your expertise in the subject.
You were the one who asserted that hearing voices is always traumatic and horrifying. Which happened to jive with an observation I have made in the few cases I've been exposed to. So I asked if you've heard of any benevolent voices.
Try not to be the victim in everything.
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Oh, here we go. No, you tried to take a discussion and make it all about you. Same here now. You tried to cow sub for his little quip about hearing voices with an assertion of your expertise in the subject.
You were the one who asserted that hearing voices is always traumatic and horrifying. Which happened to jive with an observation I have made in the few cases I've been exposed to. So I asked if you've heard of any benevolent voices.
Try not to be the victim in everything.
you and sub really deserve each other... .. two opposite sides of the same counterfiet coin... nothing but frauds..... ..
you tried to take this conversation and make it about your personal experiences with your friends daughter.... (i forget - is this the one who accused you of being a child molestor?). .. ... and since i didn;t play along with your game - and posted a doggy joke about it instead.... you resort to claiming i am making it all about me?........ .... project much?... do you?..... ... ...
i already told you i am not going to try and have a serious discussion with you about this issue anymore... ... apparently you thought i was joking... ... . fact is i am not interested in having a serious conversation with you about anything.... you proved long ago you are just a keyboard warrior with no meaningful experience.... in anything..... .... go take some pictures of spiders and bedbugs or some other insect.... and refrain from feeling you have to show your ignorance in every thread that comes along......
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i didn;t mention schizophrenia..... you did....
take a look at what i told you in response to your claim about hearing "voices in your head"........... you replied that - based on having an uncle with it.... you knew what schizophrenia was about.. ....that was the first mention of the word schizophrenia and it was brought up by you..........
so take your semantical word games and play them on someone else.......... if you are going to accuse me of wrongfully assuming you were talking about a thing i never mentioned..... . then why are you right to assume i was talking about that thing - when you did mention it?..... .... and you mentioned it first - which is what sent this whole conversation down the path you now cry about as if it was an affront to your integrity.....
but i got news for you...... in my book you have no integrity.... you are no different than any other troll or sockpuppet here... ..just out for your own amusement.... .. so have fun........ and shut up about being offended all the time........ nobody i know here cares if you are......
Have we resorted to lying now? I've never been accused of anything remotely like that. Maybe you could cite your source?
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the source was you in more than one previous post on this forum...... and yes... you and sub have both resorted to lying.... ... is that what you were asking me?.........
oh.... excuse me... is the wording of what i said not exactly right?... ... are you going to start playing the subllibrm semantical word game now?..... again?........
ok.... fair enough.... . is this the same one who accused you of "abusing" a child - juvenile - young adult... etc.. "causing injury" in some way?..... .. or what ever it was she accused you of that led you to calling her mothering "reptilian?" .. and/or - whatever it was you want to go back and change the wording of and now.... say you did or didn;t call her?.... .... if not... just say "no.. it;s somebody else".... .
and then of course i would say just give her time.... . she probably doesn;t know you very well yet... ... maybe that is why she chooses to stay in colorado with you in missouri....
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No, that wasn't mere poor wording on your part. That was a false accusation. But, coming from you, "fair enough" is as good as a retraction. Those threads still exist, and anyone who is interested in searching out your fragmented and jumbled recollections may refer to them.
But, I agree, it's better you and I don't interact.
Peace.
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Here's a trippy one.
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ekklesian... from another thread.....
"My two older girls married biological brothers in an IFB church that their little family cult took over. The cult thing is hindsight, though at the time I wasn't excited about my girls' choices, and the knot of toads they married into knew it.
I came to refer to the matriarch quite openly and accurately as the Swollen Toad Queen of Narcissus.
After a particularly traumatic event in which I could have had the kids arrested, there became something of a feud, because I refused to allow my youngest to have any contact with them.
There was another ruckus in which I was the one arrested and charged with domestic violence because it involved my son in law. (Handcuffed, paddy wagon, jail, mugshot, printed, booked...the works.) A humorous aside, someone had scratched into the wall of the wagon, I didn't choose the thug life, it chose me.
Just so you know, I prevailed in the state and municipal trials. I have a clean record, and I'm licensed to carry concealed firearms.
In all this strife, their ecclesiastical inbred little cult hired a youth pastor who turned out to be a registered sex offender for oral copulation with a thirteen yr old girl. He began an affair with one of the toads, and this is where you go, huh? This chick has AIDS, needs a lung transplant, and is an emaciated bag of bones on oxygen in a wheelchair.
She survived COVID (Why, God?) but I digress....
The perv left his wife, married the hag, and lives with my oldest daughter and her kids.
Needless to say, these events magnified the defects in my already bad match, and in no small part contributed to its dissolution."
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i might get confused at times.... . but i do not make things up out of thin air...... .... this is the post.... copied and pasted above.. that i said i remembered seeing..... the one in which you claimed to be falsely accused by a family member.... ... i was wrong about the age of who it was you were accused of abusing... and who it was that actually accused you too...... .. but i was not wrong when i said you had claimed being falsely accused before... . (apparently that is a common thing for you).... and also when i said you had been accused of causing someone injury........ .. .
and it is pretty obvious from this post you wrote above that regardless of what actually happened you were still bitter about it then..... ... your post is full of bile and vile counter accusations.... and vile and deraugatory comments about other people in the story too.... .....(another common thing for you - vile and deraugatory comments... which i highlighted in red above)... ...
i believe you still carry all this bitterness with you now....... you certainly carried it back when we first conversed about another abuse case in which i told of what happened to people i was in therapy with. (people you did not even know).... ... and you basically called me a liar.... claimed i made the whole thing up ..... (apparently making blind false accusations like that against other people is also a common thing for you).... i could dredge that thread up too if you like... but what;s the point?....... you know what you are.... and it is not anything christian......
"My two older girls married biological brothers in an IFB church that their little family cult took over. The cult thing is hindsight, though at the time I wasn't excited about my girls' choices, and the knot of toads they married into knew it.
I came to refer to the matriarch quite openly and accurately as the Swollen Toad Queen of Narcissus.
After a particularly traumatic event in which I could have had the kids arrested, there became something of a feud, because I refused to allow my youngest to have any contact with them.
There was another ruckus in which I was the one arrested and charged with domestic violence because it involved my son in law. (Handcuffed, paddy wagon, jail, mugshot, printed, booked...the works.) A humorous aside, someone had scratched into the wall of the wagon, I didn't choose the thug life, it chose me.
Just so you know, I prevailed in the state and municipal trials. I have a clean record, and I'm licensed to carry concealed firearms.
In all this strife, their ecclesiastical inbred little cult hired a youth pastor who turned out to be a registered sex offender for oral copulation with a thirteen yr old girl. He began an affair with one of the toads, and this is where you go, huh? This chick has AIDS, needs a lung transplant, and is an emaciated bag of bones on oxygen in a wheelchair.
She survived COVID (Why, God?) but I digress....
The perv left his wife, married the hag, and lives with my oldest daughter and her kids.
Needless to say, these events magnified the defects in my already bad match, and in no small part contributed to its dissolution."
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i might get confused at times.... . but i do not make things up out of thin air...... .... this is the post.... copied and pasted above.. that i said i remembered seeing..... the one in which you claimed to be falsely accused by a family member.... ... i was wrong about the age of who it was you were accused of abusing... and who it was that actually accused you too...... .. but i was not wrong when i said you had claimed being falsely accused before... . (apparently that is a common thing for you).... and also when i said you had been accused of causing someone injury........ .. .
and it is pretty obvious from this post you wrote above that regardless of what actually happened you were still bitter about it then..... ... your post is full of bile and vile counter accusations.... and vile and deraugatory comments about other people in the story too.... .....(another common thing for you - vile and deraugatory comments... which i highlighted in red above)... ...
i believe you still carry all this bitterness with you now....... you certainly carried it back when we first conversed about another abuse case in which i told of what happened to people i was in therapy with. (people you did not even know).... ... and you basically called me a liar.... claimed i made the whole thing up ..... (apparently making blind false accusations like that against other people is also a common thing for you).... i could dredge that thread up too if you like... but what;s the point?....... you know what you are.... and it is not anything christian......
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