Kenny Baldwin

“did he, as the senior pastor, get veto power?”

If he as senior pastor has veto power, why go talk to the people? If he wanted to do it then just do it but if he can veto any decision the people want, why go to the people?
Why did you pick that one thing out among all those questions?
Small group? I mean if thats what your church wants to do. Who would be leading the small group?
Usually someone who is called to, or has the gift to teach.
I don’t think it would be a good look, as the community goes. People are people and they will say, that church has pedophiles at their church.
See, you find any reason to justify your contempt. In this case, there wouldn’t be any children in proximity to the person, but you find some rationale to exclude them.
 
Why did you pick that one thing out among all those questions?

Usually someone who is called to, or has the gift to teach.

See, you find any reason to justify your contempt. In this case, there wouldn’t be any children in proximity to the person, but you find some rationale to exclude them.
“See, you find any reason to justify your contempt. In this case, there wouldn’t be any children in proximity to the person, but you find some rationale to exclude them.”

This is on them, not me. This is their fault not anyone else’s. They can only blame themselves.

“Why did you pick that one thing out among all those questions?”

I guess it goes back to the cult thing. Conversations with IFB people who are true believers of the IFB seem to always go back to some pastoral authority, standards, KJV only, tattoos or something in this direction. (If you talk to them long enough)
 
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Your "way" sounds more judgemental, hateful, and self-righteous, and that's just the fact of the matter.
Hey bruh, fine by me if that’s what you and others want to think about me on this issue.
 
“did he, as the senior pastor, get veto power?”

If he as senior pastor has veto power, why go talk to the people? If he wanted to do it then just do it but if he can veto any decision the people want, why go to the people?

Small group? I mean if thats what your church wants to do. Who would be leading the small group?

I don’t think it would be a good look, as the community goes. People are people and they will say, that church has pedophiles at their church.
The decision was made over a period of 8-10 weeks by our 25 Deacons and our 5 Pastors. The decision was explained to our congregation and was almost universally affirmed….although not by an official vote.
 
“See, you find any reason to justify your contempt. In this case, there wouldn’t be any children in proximity to the person, but you find some rationale to exclude them.”

This is on them, not me. This is their fault not anyone else’s. They can only blame themselves.
So your original claim about the reason for your objection to their participation in church life being to protect the children was not really valid. You want to get your pound of flesh since the justice system didn’t punish them enough to suit you.
“Why did you pick that one thing out among all those questions?”

I guess it goes back to the cult thing. Conversations with IFB people who are true believers of the IFB seem to always go back to some pastoral authority, standards, KJV only, tattoos or something in this direction. (If you talk to them long enough)
And all men are pigs if you talk to them long enough, because some treat women badly and the rest are just waiting the right time to treat them poorly.
 
The decision was made over a period of 8-10 weeks by our 25 Deacons and our 5 Pastors. The decision was explained to our congregation and was almost universally affirmed….although not by an official vote.
Pretty much what I figured.

Bruh thinks you’re a compromiser because you even dared to entertain the possibility of letting them attend.
 
The decision was made over a period of 8-10 weeks by our 25 Deacons and our 5 Pastors. The decision was explained to our congregation and was almost universally affirmed….although not by an official vote.
Yeah, the average and most people do not want pedophiles around women and children. It’s only common sense
 
So your original claim about the reason for your objection to their participation in church life being to protect the children was not really valid. You want to get your pound of flesh since the justice system didn’t punish them enough to suit you.

And all men are pigs if you talk to them long enough, because some treat women badly and the rest are just waiting the right time to treat them poorly.
“So your original claim about the reason for your objection to their participation in church life being to protect the children was not really valid.”

No. But if you’re asking me if I have more than one reason, of course. Protection would be #1.

Men are pigs 😂
 
Yeah, the average and most people do not want pedophiles around women and children. It’s only common sense
So, which is it, "Bruh," women or children? Someone who goes after children usually doesn't go after women. And men who go after women usually don't go after children. I believe it's like @ALAYMAN said, you just want your pound of flesh. You are conjoining two totally different things, though both are sexual and abusive in nature. So then, using YOUR reasoning we should throw out ANYONE who has committed a sexual or abusive sin.... WOW! That would leave the church half to three quarters empty... Jesus said that if someone even looks at another and lusts after them, whether it be a man, woman, or child, they've committed a sexual sin. So, you say you believe God changes lives, but you don't believe a pedophile could be changed by the power of God and NEVER commit that kind of sin again. I guess you believe God's just not powerful enough to do that, which would mean God isn't Sovereign, ALL POWERFUL, and able to redeem and change lives. Guess that would make GOD a liar, and you would know better than God. I see. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
 
So, which is it, "Bruh," women or children? Someone who goes after children usually doesn't go after women. And men who go after women usually don't go after children. I believe it's like @ALAYMAN said, you just want your pound of flesh. You are conjoining two totally different things, though both are sexual and abusive in nature. So then, using YOUR reasoning we should throw out ANYONE who has committed a sexual or abusive sin.... WOW! That would leave the church half to three quarters empty... Jesus said that if someone even looks at another and lusts after them, whether it be a man, woman, or child, they've committed a sexual sin. So, you say you believe God changes lives, but you don't believe a pedophile could be changed by the power of God and NEVER commit that kind of sin again. I guess you believe God's just not powerful enough to do that, which would mean God isn't Sovereign, ALL POWERFUL, and able to redeem and change lives. Guess that would make GOD a liar, and you would know better than God. I see. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
No, you cannot use that logic across the board. I’ve pretty much included women in this too.

But since you asked, no I do not want my wife or daughters around pedophiles.
 
No, you cannot use that logic across the board. I’ve pretty much included women in this too.

But since you asked, no I do not want my wife or daughters around pedophiles.
I very well can and have used that logic. You may as well not have your wife and daughter go to church then, because they might already be sitting next to a pedophile, adulterer, or even a murderer. You NEVER can tell.
I also noticed that you avoided a bunch in my previous post.... typical. UGH!!! CHRISTIANS!!!
 
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