Ben Fields: Hero or rogue cop?

Biker said:
ALAYMAN said:
Biker said:
He assaulted someone, a child in this case. No matter the gender

He is being investigated by the FBI and already fired, as he should be.

It's not Rocket Science

You're defending a delinquent.  But with your track record here, not surprised at all.  How long should the girl have been allowed to disrupt class?  How many other punks did she embolden with her antics?  We have an inversion of societal authority, and people like you are fools to jump on the libertarian bandwagon.
Smellin Coffee posted this Cops history of violence and lawsuits relating to such.
Its interesting how you ignore the truth about this Cops violent history... while conjruing up tales about this child having a history of being a delinquent.

The child is definitely an angel, dusting the chalkboard, bringing an apple for the desk, starting a Bible Club.


Is there any wonder about why people view the Leftcoast Libtards like they do?
 
T-Bone said:
Biker said:
ALAYMAN said:
Biker said:
He assaulted someone, a child in this case. No matter the gender

He is being investigated by the FBI and already fired, as he should be.

It's not Rocket Science

You're defending a delinquent.  But with your track record here, not surprised at all.  How long should the girl have been allowed to disrupt class?  How many other punks did she embolden with her antics?  We have an inversion of societal authority, and people like you are fools to jump on the libertarian bandwagon.
Smellin Coffee posted this Cops history of violence and lawsuits relating to such.
Its interesting how you ignore the truth about this Cops violent history... while conjruing up tales about this child has a history of being a delinguent

Actually it seems you too are guilty of ignoring the truth of the whole story (I am not defending the school resource officer), but this student was causing trouble in the class and refused to respond to proper authority.  Try to be a little more even handed.  You can believe the officer over did it, without making the student look like and angel.
I never commented on the student being an Angel. I don't think anyone here did. But we know the Officer is not believable, he's a violent thug with a history of lawsuits against him for that very reason. He had no business being around children, or anyone in a protective capacity.
He broke the arm of a child... body slamming her to the ground in a classroom full of innocent kids for  her "disruption" in class, did you even see the video? The child's well being is what's important now, not her disruption in class.
 
ALAYMAN said:
Biker said:
ALAYMAN said:
Biker said:
He assaulted someone, a child in this case. No matter the gender

He is being investigated by the FBI and already fired, as he should be.

It's not Rocket Science

You're defending a delinquent.  But with your track record here, not surprised at all.  How long should the girl have been allowed to disrupt class?  How many other punks did she embolden with her antics?  We have an inversion of societal authority, and people like you are fools to jump on the libertarian bandwagon.
Smellin Coffee posted this Cops history of violence and lawsuits relating to such.
Its interesting how you ignore the truth about this Cops violent history... while conjruing up tales about this child having a history of being a delinquent.

The child is definitely an angel, dusting the chalkboard, bringing an apple for the desk, starting a Bible Club.


Is there any wonder about why people view the Leftcoast Libtards like they do?
Are you talking to me? You are quoting me but speaking in the third person. I don't get the satire either
 
Biker said:
T-Bone said:
Biker said:
ALAYMAN said:
Biker said:
He assaulted someone, a child in this case. No matter the gender

He is being investigated by the FBI and already fired, as he should be.

It's not Rocket Science

You're defending a delinquent.  But with your track record here, not surprised at all.  How long should the girl have been allowed to disrupt class?  How many other punks did she embolden with her antics?  We have an inversion of societal authority, and people like you are fools to jump on the libertarian bandwagon.
Smellin Coffee posted this Cops history of violence and lawsuits relating to such.
Its interesting how you ignore the truth about this Cops violent history... while conjruing up tales about this child has a history of being a delinguent

Actually it seems you too are guilty of ignoring the truth of the whole story (I am not defending the school resource officer), but this student was causing trouble in the class and refused to respond to proper authority.  Try to be a little more even handed.  You can believe the officer over did it, without making the student look like and angel.
I never commented on the student being an Angel. I don't think anyone here did. But we know the Officer is not believable, he's a violent thug with a history of lawsuits against him for that very reason. He had no business being around children, or anyone in a protective capacity.
He broke the arm of a child... body slamming her to the ground in a classroom full of innocent kids for  her "disruption" in class, did you even see the video? The child's well being is what's important now, not her disruption in class.

See bolded part of your statement just above mine...at the very least your statement infers you feel the student has no culpability in this...as for the officer...you might want to re-read my statement.
 
ALAYMAN said:
Biker said:
ALAYMAN said:
Biker said:
He assaulted someone, a child in this case. No matter the gender

He is being investigated by the FBI and already fired, as he should be.

It's not Rocket Science

You're defending a delinquent.  But with your track record here, not surprised at all.  How long should the girl have been allowed to disrupt class?  How many other punks did she embolden with her antics?  We have an inversion of societal authority, and people like you are fools to jump on the libertarian bandwagon.
Smellin Coffee posted this Cops history of violence and lawsuits relating to such.
Its interesting how you ignore the truth about this Cops violent history... while conjruing up tales about this child having a history of being a delinquent.

The child is definitely an angel, dusting the chalkboard, bringing an apple for the desk, starting a Bible Club.


Is there any wonder about why people view the Leftcoast Libtards like they do?

So the way to resolve non-violent rebellion is to respond with violence. Got it.  ::)
 
Smellin Coffee said:
So the way to resolve non-violent rebellion is to respond with violence. Got it.  ::)

The kid should have gotten up the first time she was told to do so, by the teacher, then the principal, then the law.  I think my first post covered this.  The way of the transgressor is hard.
 
T-Bone said:
Biker said:
T-Bone said:
Biker said:
ALAYMAN said:
Biker said:
He assaulted someone, a child in this case. No matter the gender

He is being investigated by the FBI and already fired, as he should be.

It's not Rocket Science

You're defending a delinquent.  But with your track record here, not surprised at all.  How long should the girl have been allowed to disrupt class?  How many other punks did she embolden with her antics?  We have an inversion of societal authority, and people like you are fools to jump on the libertarian bandwagon.
Smellin Coffee posted this Cops history of violence and lawsuits relating to such.
Its interesting how you ignore the truth about this Cops violent history... while conjruing up tales about this child has a history of being a delinguent

Actually it seems you too are guilty of ignoring the truth of the whole story (I am not defending the school resource officer), but this student was causing trouble in the class and refused to respond to proper authority.  Try to be a little more even handed.  You can believe the officer over did it, without making the student look like and angel.
I never commented on the student being an Angel. I don't think anyone here did. But we know the Officer is not believable, he's a violent thug with a history of lawsuits against him for that very reason. He had no business being around children, or anyone in a protective capacity.
He broke the arm of a child... body slamming her to the ground in a classroom full of innocent kids for  her "disruption" in class, did you even see the video? The child's well being is what's important now, not her disruption in class.

See bolded part of your statement just above mine...at the very least your statement infers you feel the student has no culpability in this...as for the officer...you might want to re-read my statement.
 
How do we know he's a Thug? There are numerous articles revealing his violent history towards innocent civilians. He's already been fired which lends credibility to this.

How do we know she's a delinquent? We don't
 
ALAYMAN said:
Smellin Coffee said:
So the way to resolve non-violent rebellion is to respond with violence. Got it.  ::)

The kid should have gotten up the first time she was told to do so, by the teacher, then the principal, then the law.  I think my first post covered this.  The way of the transgressor is hard.
There you have it. Tom should have been executed for his "soul-winning" excursion.
 
ALAYMAN said:
Smellin Coffee said:
So the way to resolve non-violent rebellion is to respond with violence. Got it.  ::)

The kid should have gotten up the first time she was told to do so, by the teacher, then the principal, then the law.  I think my first post covered this.  The way of the transgressor is hard.

No doubt. But the administration and ESPECIALLY a police officer, should have other tactics in hand other than physical force.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
ALAYMAN said:
Smellin Coffee said:
So the way to resolve non-violent rebellion is to respond with violence. Got it.  ::)

The kid should have gotten up the first time she was told to do so, by the teacher, then the principal, then the law.  I think my first post covered this.  The way of the transgressor is hard.

No doubt. But the administration and ESPECIALLY a police officer, should have other tactics in hand other than physical force.

She refused to get up, over a prolonged period.  How long would you wait?

By the way, I agree that his throwing her across the floor was wrong, but she got what she wanted, to prove she was bad.
 
ALAYMAN said:
Smellin Coffee said:
So the way to resolve non-violent rebellion is to respond with violence. Got it.  ::)

The kid should have gotten up the first time she was told to do so, by the teacher, then the principal, then the law.  I think my first post covered this.  The way of the transgressor is hard.

Yes the transgressor is the COP and the way may be very hard.
The FBI is investigating him for assault of a minor with injuries.

The child, we just don't know enough about it. And whether the Teacher was out of line along with the Principal.

Don't misunderstand, my wife is a Teacher at a Correctional Facility. I was a Guard for 4 months in my Teens (before they labeled them Juvenile Correctional Officers). I've been in Juvenile Hall as a Teen. Procedures are in place for kids who misbehave in class. Violently jumping them during class around iother nnocent school kids... resulting in the breaking of their arm and body slamming them to the ground when there is no violence  is inciting violence and injury. It is enacting what the Cop is paid to AVOID. You can't screw up worse than he did.
But History often repeats itself as we've seen here with this COP.

She would've just got up and left to her next class or where-ever, no biggie. They need to deal with her through her parents.

 
ALAYMAN said:
Smellin Coffee said:
ALAYMAN said:
Smellin Coffee said:
So the way to resolve non-violent rebellion is to respond with violence. Got it.  ::)

The kid should have gotten up the first time she was told to do so, by the teacher, then the principal, then the law.  I think my first post covered this.  The way of the transgressor is hard.

No doubt. But the administration and ESPECIALLY a police officer, should have other tactics in hand other than physical force.

She refused to get up, over a prolonged period.  How long would you wait?

By the way, I agree that his throwing her across the floor was wrong, but she got what she wanted, to prove she was bad.
excuse me? Where did you get she "wanted to prove she was bad"?
Stick to the FACTS, stop trying to insert your own imagination as fact into the story.
 
ALAYMAN said:
She refused to get up, over a prolonged period.  How long would you wait?

As long as it took. I'm sure by the end of the class period she would have left.

ALAYMAN said:
By the way, I agree that his throwing her across the floor was wrong, but she got what she wanted, to prove she was bad.

Then why support the officer?
 
Wuh-oh.

One of the videos from inside the math classroom at Spring Valley High School shows the student resisting, according to Lott.

"When the officer puts his hands on her initially, she reaches up and she pops the officer with her fist," he said.

Source

We can debate whether the level of force used was appropriate for the circumstances, but if you punch a cop in the lawful execution of his duties, you just earned the clock-cleaning that ensues.
 
Biker said:
excuse me? Where did you get she "wanted to prove she was bad"?
Stick to the FACTS, stop trying to insert your own imagination as fact into the story.

No imagination here.  One of her classmates said that was her motive.

SC said:
As long as it took. I'm sure by the end of the class period she would have left.

You and I roll different on matters of insubordination.  I support the cop, despite his excessive force, because she should have gotten up, and he gave her a deserved attitude adjustment.
 
ALAYMAN said:
You and I roll different on matters of insubordination.  I support the cop, despite his excessive force, because she should have gotten up, and he gave her a deserved attitude adjustment.

"I support the cop, despite his excessive force..."


Welcome to the police-state, where it doesn't matter how dirty the cops are, just so (certain) transgressors get their due.

Bonus if they come from a disadvantaged or minority group!

 
that's right!!!  that police officer should (after she had made HER OWN DECISION to become a problem) have asked her nicely and let her get up and leave only if she wanted to and how she wanted to!

shame on him for going over and demanding that she leave....and forcing her to start swinging her arms and pushing at him in an attempt to be further disruptive!!

its obvious that if she were to get up and leave as she was asked that this would have not only been grossly unfair to her...but she would have suffered terrible consequences!! 

shame on this terrible officer by not putting out the message that disobedience would be tolerated........

shame on him for not putting first and foremost the rights and feelings of someone who CHOSE to become a problem and a delinquent....

^^^^^^^^^ ALL OF THIS SARCASIM OF COURSE!!!!

give me a break....she wonted to show her tail and look tough in front of her class and she got what she deserved......she could have made the choice for it not to happen....it was ALL and ONLY a direct result of her own choices and actions.

had she had the belt on her butt a few times growin up she would most likely not have acted like this in the first place

roll on Officer Fields.....roll on
 
now I aint gonna say he did a "heroic deed"    but being in law enforcement period he is a hero....

this case he was just doing his job and did it well to....

to protect and to serve.......

ive always assumed that was to protect and serve the community and the innocent...but I see most people believe its meant to protect and serve the criminals
 
rsc2a said:
Bonus if they come from a disadvantaged or minority group!

Double bonus if they use a shotgun on rodents.
 
Bo said:
now I aint gonna say he did a "heroic deed"    but being in law enforcement period he is a hero....

Oh please.
 
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