JERUSALEM is not the sole proprietorship of ISRAEL

FSSL said:
Seeing as how we acquire half of our DNA from our father and half from our mother, and so on, there is no way tht David can be wholly Jewish and a full-fledged Israelite.

Fine. Then you are not an American.
 
Oops!!! I hit the modify button instead of quote.
Sorry.
 
Route_70 said:
FSSL said:
Seeing as how we acquire half of our DNA from our father and half from our mother, and so on, there is no way tht David can be wholly Jewish and a full-fledged Israelite.

Fine. Then you are not an American.
I never said anything about a ?pure race? because there is no such thing as a ?pure race!? Everything I have been talking about has to do with prophecies that deal with a line of people that were given special privileges and promises that descended from Abraham through Isaac and Jacob, not Abraham Isaac and Esau or any other line. 

The Jewish people have been dispersed for many centuries and countless generations around the world and yet have maintained their distinction as a race from the local races in the nations they have been dispersed to while maintaining their genetic differences.

The idea that Darwin started the concept of ?race? with his theory of evolution is as silly as putty.  Webster gave this definition of race in 1827 long before Darwin wrote his book. 

RACE, 1. The lineage of a family, or continued series of descendants from a parent who is called the stock. A race is the series of descendants indefinitely. Thus all mankind are called the race of Adam; the Israelites are of the race of Abraham and Jacob. Thus we speak of a race of kings, the race of Clovis or Charlemagne; a race of nobles, &c.

The Jews come from the stock of Abraham (Acts 13:26).  Only in recently politically correct dictionaries do you find ?race? morphed into ?nation.?  On a job application or government census when they ask what ?race? you are they aren?t asking where you come from but your heritage.  There are many White people that live in Africa.  Try getting a job by claiming to be ?African American? for a special minority scholarship when you have blond hair and blue eyes unless you are Elizabeth Warren of course.

Acts 17:26-27 (NKJV)
26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;

17:26 one blood.  All men are equal in God?s sight since all came from one man, Adam.  This teaching was a blow to the national pride of the Greeks, who believed all not-Greeks were barbarians.  The boundaries or their dwellings.  God is responsible for establishing nations as to their racial identity and their geographical locations (Deut 32:8) and determining the extent of their conquests (cf. Isa 10:12-15) ? John MacArthur

God did not restore the Jews back into their land because they are better than other races or more righteous.  The one main reason for the restoration of the Jews is to bring glory to God.  No power on earth on in hell will destroy present day Israel and drive them into the sea because God said so!  It doesn't matter if you or the Palestinians or the entire world doesn't like it for at the Battle of Armageddon their Messiah will crush the Gentile world powers and make Israel the head nation.  It is at that time Israel will be converted.

Ezekiel 36:21-23,32 (NKJV)
21 But I had concern for My holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations wherever they went.
22 ?Therefore say to the house of Israel, ?Thus says the Lord God: ?I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name?s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. 23 And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord,? says the Lord God, ?when I am hallowed in you before their eyes. 32 Not for your sake do I do this,? says the Lord God, ?let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!?


 
My comment wasn?t directed at you. It was directed at Route. I inadvertently deleted his comment

Route said King Davis could not be a Jew or Israelite because he had nonJewish DNA passed down from Ruth.

I destroyed his comment inadvertently.
I destroyed his point by saying he is not an American ( using his own logic).
 
FSSL said:
My comment wasn?t directed at you. It was directed at Route. I inadvertently deleted his comment


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Actually I was trying to respond to him also.  I get a little confused sometimes on multiple quotes.
 
Especially confusing when I don?t help the situation by deleting posts inadvertently


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I was watching Robert Jeffress this morning talking about the capitol of Israel on television and he said this:

?The term ?Palestine? was invented by the Roman emperor Hadrian in 100 A.D as a way of saying to the conquered Jewish people, ?this land is no longer yours.?  But history shows that Israel, the Jewish people occupied this land before the Arabs, before the Palestinians, before the Muslims. ?

An Israeli officer once asked Jeffress, ?what if Israel said to the United States we are no longer going to recognize Washington D.C as your capitol until you divide a portion of the capitol and give it to Canada and another portion to Mexico in order to be neighborly?? That is ludicrous!  But ?that illustrates exactly why President Trump made the right call.  He is on the right side of history, and more importantly, he is on the right side of God.?
 
biscuit1953 said:
I was watching Robert Jeffress this morning talking about the capitol of Israel on television and he said this:

?The term ?Palestine? was invented by the Roman emperor Hadrian in 100 A.D as a way of saying to the conquered Jewish people, ?this land is no longer yours.?  But history shows that Israel, the Jewish people occupied this land before the Arabs, before the Palestinians, before the Muslims. ?

An Israeli officer once asked Jeffress, ?what if Israel said to the United States we are no longer going to recognize Washington D.C as your capitol until you divide a portion of the capitol and give it to Canada and another portion to Mexico in order to be neighborly?? That is ludicrous!  But ?that illustrates exactly why President Trump made the right call.  He is on the right side of history, and more importantly, he is on the right side of God.?

First:  the current Jews are NOT the Children of Israel.  DNA completely debunks that notion.

Second:  There were most definitely people living in Canaan before the Children of Israel invaded and began systematically raping and pillaging the countryside.

Third:  Those who say they are Jews but are not, have invaded the land of Palestine once again, driving out and displacing its inhabitants -- not quite with as extreme an amount of violence as those whom they claim are their ancestors.

The Palestinians who have remained in Palestine can claim that their ancestors have lived in the area continually for thousands of years.  The "Jews" who have moved in and taken over cannot make that claim.
 
Route_70 said:
... and nowhere in the Bible is the land currently occupied by the State of Israel given to the "descendants" of Abraham, namely the Jews.

meh, I'd rather have Israel rule the city rather than those burka forcing sexist theologians.
 
TheRealJonStewart said:
Route_70 said:
... and nowhere in the Bible is the land currently occupied by the State of Israel given to the "descendants" of Abraham, namely the Jews.

meh, I'd rather have Israel rule the city rather than those burka forcing sexist theologians.
*if it was any of my business*

Agreed

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prophet said:
TheRealJonStewart said:
Route_70 said:
... and nowhere in the Bible is the land currently occupied by the State of Israel given to the "descendants" of Abraham, namely the Jews.

meh, I'd rather have Israel rule the city rather than those burka forcing sexist theologians.
*if it was any of my business*

Agreed

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When I was in Israel in 2008 our tour guide a man who described himself as a secular Jew. His belief was that the area is always best served when there are an equal number of Jews, Muslims and Christians. In that  situation there is need for everyone to figure out how to get along.  He used Bethlehem as an example. Prior to Palestinian control the divide was fairly even and everyone prospered. Under Palestinian rule Jews were evicted and the majority Muslims would not do business with Christians. Christians especially suffered but the overall economy suffered. I would not consider myself an expert on the area and do not know what the current economy is like but it was an interesting perspective.
 
LongGone said:
prophet said:
TheRealJonStewart said:
Route_70 said:
... and nowhere in the Bible is the land currently occupied by the State of Israel given to the "descendants" of Abraham, namely the Jews.

meh, I'd rather have Israel rule the city rather than those burka forcing sexist theologians.
*if it was any of my business*

Agreed

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When I was in Israel in 2008 our tour guide a man who described himself as a secular Jew. His belief was that the area is always best served when there are an equal number of Jews, Muslims and Christians. In that  situation there is need for everyone to figure out how to get along.  He used Bethlehem as an example. Prior to Palestinian control the divide was fairly even and everyone prospered. Under Palestinian rule Jews were evicted and the majority Muslims would not do business with Christians. Christians especially suffered but the overall economy suffered. I would not consider myself an expert on the area and do not know what the current economy is like but it was an interesting perspective.

Israel will work with anyone, just give them control and it'll be much better economy than  it would be under the control of those terrorists.
 
Route_70 said:
... and nowhere in the Bible is the land currently occupied by the State of Israel given to the "descendants" of Abraham, namely the Jews.

But they HAVE to believe it. It reinforces their belief Trump is God?s anointed for this country and it begins to satiate their quest for power. Trump is bringing about apocalyptic prophecy to bring us closer to ?the day of the Lord? and judgement, hence the need to support him despite his predatory history, his discrimination and despite for outliers and foreigners, his continual lying and his (and their) support for a child predator. Morality be damned for the ?greater good?.
 
?Trump? ?Trump? ?Trump?

Under Clinton, Congress OVEREHELMINGLY voted to declare Jerusalem as Israel?s capital. EVERY Dem platform included the same. When Dems tried to exclude it in 2008, it became a controversy and they ended up putting it back in.

Chuck Schumer encouraged Trump to do this (as Trump already committed to do).

Liberals who get worked up about this have moved so far left that they can?t even follow recent history


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Smellin Coffee said:
Route_70 said:
... and nowhere in the Bible is the land currently occupied by the State of Israel given to the "descendants" of Abraham, namely the Jews.

But they HAVE to believe it. It reinforces their belief Trump is God?s anointed for this country and it begins to satiate their quest for power. Trump is bringing about apocalyptic prophecy to bring us closer to ?the day of the Lord? and judgement, hence the need to support him despite his predatory history, his discrimination and despite for outliers and foreigners, his continual lying and his (and their) support for a child predator. Morality be damned for the ?greater good?.
God is in control of history and why God allowed a man like Donald Trump to become a billionaire, run for president and destroy the establishment the way he has, well,  I'll leave that in His hands.  I know you and and your leftists friends are pretty torn up that the Jews now occupy the land God unconditionally promised the physical descendants of Abraham.  Well too bad.  The Bible is true and the prophecies will continue to be fulfilled for all the world to see whether you believe it or not.

Concerning Roy Moore. I know a man who claims you tried to molest him 40 years ago while he was in high school and he is thinking about getting Gloria Allred to make it public on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and every other news source available. Do you want to confess now?  It doesn't matter that he admits that the yearbook he claimed you (Smellin) signed was a forgery.  Truth be damned!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/us/alabama-moore-nelson-allred.html
 
biscuit1953 said:
the Jews now occupy the land God unconditionally promised the physical descendants of Abraham.

Just because you say so, doesn't make it so.

So, show me in the Bible where God promised to give land to those who now occupy it.
 
Route_70 said:
biscuit1953 said:
the Jews now occupy the land God unconditionally promised the physical descendants of Abraham.

Just because you say so, doesn't make it so.

So, show me in the Bible where God promised to give land to those who now occupy it.
I've already given you proof.  Just because you don't believe your lying eyes doesn't make it so either.  I really don't understand why an agnostic/atheist like yourself or Smellin would even want to even come on a Christian forum and discuss "fables."
 
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