Just to clarify here...

Ransom said:
Smellin Coffee said:
...the same rich, powerful, white guys who want to ban abortion (and rightfully so) also want to take away prenatal and maternal health coverage.

Unlike life, medical insurance isn't a human right.

Just to clarify here.

I believe proper healthcare prolongs life. Hence, healthcare IS a human right. Insurance determines how much healthcare is affordable.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Ransom said:
Smellin Coffee said:
...the same rich, powerful, white guys who want to ban abortion (and rightfully so) also want to take away prenatal and maternal health coverage.

Unlike life, medical insurance isn't a human right.

Just to clarify here.

I believe proper healthcare prolongs life. Hence, healthcare IS a human right. Insurance determines how much healthcare is affordable.

I believe for every drop of rain that falls...a flower grows.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Ransom said:
Smellin Coffee said:
...the same rich, powerful, white guys who want to ban abortion (and rightfully so) also want to take away prenatal and maternal health coverage.

Unlike life, medical insurance isn't a human right.

Just to clarify here.

I believe proper healthcare prolongs life. Hence, healthcare IS a human right. Insurance determines how much healthcare is affordable.

I believe for every drop of rain that falls...a flower grows.

I'm not surprised. It sound like something Trump would tweet. ;)
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Ransom said:
Smellin Coffee said:
...the same rich, powerful, white guys who want to ban abortion (and rightfully so) also want to take away prenatal and maternal health coverage.

Unlike life, medical insurance isn't a human right.

Just to clarify here.

I believe proper healthcare prolongs life. Hence, healthcare IS a human right. Insurance determines how much healthcare is affordable.

I believe for every drop of rain that falls...a flower grows.

I'm not surprised. It sound like something Trump would tweet. ;)

I believe that somewhere on the darkest night, a candle glows...
And Jack Hyles and some liberal somewhere is slinging starfish back into the sea.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
FSSL said:
Are you suggesting that defunding Planned Parenthood is a problem?


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Of many issues, yes.

Planned Parenthood cannot do abortions with government funding according to the Hyde Amendment.

What do you have against helping poor women with mammograms, pap smears and other health screenings?

Lol.

You really believe that Planned Parenthood keeps the funds separate? You also think they do mammograms?

Call a PP center and try to schedule one.
 
FSSL said:
Smellin Coffee said:
FSSL said:
Are you suggesting that defunding Planned Parenthood is a problem?


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Of many issues, yes.

Planned Parenthood cannot do abortions with government funding according to the Hyde Amendment.

What do you have against helping poor women with mammograms, pap smears and other health screenings?

Lol.

You really believe that Planned Parenthood keeps the funds separate? You also think they do mammograms?

Call a PP center and try to schedule one.

Why do I doubt you have experience scheduling one? ???
 
LongGone said:
Why do I doubt you have experience scheduling one? ???

Why doubt me? It is a lie that has been debunked. Planned Parenthood does not do mammograms.

"...mammograms are not performed at the clinics; Planned Parenthood doctors and nurses conduct breast exams and refer patients to other facilities for mammograms." http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/planned-parenthood-and-mammograms/

Planned Parenthood propagates the lie that it does not use government funds for abortions. Trump called their bluff and said that they could retain government funding if they stop their abortions. They backed off.
 
We have a far greater problem than the holocaust and Christians (and so-called Christians) defend the very institutions committing the grossest of atrocities.
 
FSSL said:
Smellin Coffee said:
FSSL said:
Are you suggesting that defunding Planned Parenthood is a problem?


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Of many issues, yes.

Planned Parenthood cannot do abortions with government funding according to the Hyde Amendment.

What do you have against helping poor women with mammograms, pap smears and other health screenings?

Lol.

You really believe that Planned Parenthood keeps the funds separate? You also think they do mammograms?

Call a PP center and try to schedule one.

You do have a point but so do I. They perform screenings (diabetes screening, cholesterol screening, flu vaccines, high blood pressure screening, physical exams - to name a few) and guide poor women to free or low-cost mammograms, plus pre-natal and post-natal care.
 
FSSL said:
We have a far greater problem than the holocaust and Christians (and so-called Christians) defend the very institutions committing the grossest of atrocities.

Exactly. Christians are defending the Republican party's platform. ;)
 
Smellin Coffee said:
They perform screenings (diabetes screening, cholesterol screening, flu vaccines, high blood pressure screening, physical exams - to name a few) and guide poor women to free or low-cost mammograms, plus pre-natal and post-natal care.

So basically, this vital service PP performs, for which they absolutely must have about $500M in public funding, and without which women would die by the truckload, is that they tell women to go elsewhere for mammograms and maternal care?
 
Smellin Coffee said:
FSSL said:
Smellin Coffee said:
FSSL said:
Are you suggesting that defunding Planned Parenthood is a problem?


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Of many issues, yes.

Planned Parenthood cannot do abortions with government funding according to the Hyde Amendment.

What do you have against helping poor women with mammograms, pap smears and other health screenings?

Lol.

You really believe that Planned Parenthood keeps the funds separate? You also think they do mammograms?

Call a PP center and try to schedule one.

You do have a point but so do I. They perform screenings (diabetes screening, cholesterol screening, flu vaccines, high blood pressure screening, physical exams - to name a few) and guide poor women to free or low-cost mammograms, plus pre-natal and post-natal care.

Hitler did some good things too!

Planned Parenthood performed 324,000 abortions in 2014, selling baby body parts...

They need to not only be defunded, but prosecuted... It doesn't matter if they do screenings and lead people to free or low-cost mammograms... there are plenty of other places doing the same... WITHOUT getting into the baby chop-shop business.
 
FSSL said:
Smellin Coffee said:
FSSL said:
Smellin Coffee said:
FSSL said:
Are you suggesting that defunding Planned Parenthood is a problem?


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Of many issues, yes.

Planned Parenthood cannot do abortions with government funding according to the Hyde Amendment.

What do you have against helping poor women with mammograms, pap smears and other health screenings?

Lol.

You really believe that Planned Parenthood keeps the funds separate? You also think they do mammograms?

Call a PP center and try to schedule one.

You do have a point but so do I. They perform screenings (diabetes screening, cholesterol screening, flu vaccines, high blood pressure screening, physical exams - to name a few) and guide poor women to free or low-cost mammograms, plus pre-natal and post-natal care.

Hitler did some good things too!

Planned Parenthood performed 324,000 abortions in 2014, selling baby body parts...

They need to not only be defunded, but prosecuted... It doesn't matter if they do screenings and lead people to free or low-cost mammograms... there are plenty of other places doing the same... WITHOUT getting into the baby chop-shop business.

For the record, I would prefer alternatives such as crisis pregnancy centers. But until we have enough of them to cover the "positive" business PP performs, don't eliminate the good they do and the lives they do save with their services.

And yes, if the break the Hyde Amendment, they SHOULD be prosecuted for such. They should be held accountable. And if Trump says he will keep PP support if they abandon abortion services, I AM ALL FOR IT!
 
We do have enough alternatives.

Planned Parenthood was founded by a woman whose goal was to wipe out the negro population. Her goals are being accomplished.

Liberals want us to believe that women will not receive enough help without Planned Parenthood. That is bogus.


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FSSL said:
We do have enough alternatives.

Planned Parenthood was founded by a woman whose goal was to wipe out the negro population. Her goals are being accomplished.

Liberals want us to believe that women will not receive enough help without Planned Parenthood. That is bogus.


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Liberals lying and deceiving?!
No way...if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....
 
FSSL said:
LongGone said:
Why do I doubt you have experience scheduling one? ???

Why doubt me? It is a lie that has been debunked. Planned Parenthood does not do mammograms.

"...mammograms are not performed at the clinics; Planned Parenthood doctors and nurses conduct breast exams and refer patients to other facilities for mammograms." http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/planned-parenthood-and-mammograms/

Planned Parenthood propagates the lie that it does not use government funds for abortions. Trump called their bluff and said that they could retain government funding if they stop their abortions. They backed off.

Quoting from the same article you posted:Planned Parenthood does help women nationwide get access to mammograms, as part of the health care services it provides to nearly 3 million persons each year. Women rely on PP for referrals for and financial help with mammograms and specialized diagnostic follow-up tests when indicated by age, history and/or clinical breast exam.  For many women PP is their only health care provider and thus the only way they will get a referral for a mammogram. Millions of women rly on PP for not just contraceptive care. Contraception  is one of the group's largest categories of services provided-33.5 percent of services in 2010. The largest category is testing and treatment of STD (38%). Cancer screening and prevention services-which include breast examinations-made up 14.5% of medical services. Abortion made up 3%, with 329,445 abortion procedures in 2010.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
FSSL said:
We do have enough alternatives.

Planned Parenthood was founded by a woman whose goal was to wipe out the negro population. Her goals are being accomplished.

Liberals want us to believe that women will not receive enough help without Planned Parenthood. That is bogus.


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Liberals lying and deceiving?!
No way...if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....

Republicans lying and deceiving?!
No way...You're going to have such great healthcare, at a tiny fraction of the cost-and it's going to be so easy.
 
LongGone said:
Quoting from the same article you posted:Planned Parenthood does help women nationwide get access to mammograms, as part of the health care services it provides to nearly 3 million persons each year. ...For many women PP is their only health care provider and thus the only way they will get a referral for a mammogram.

... so, you just pointed out, just as I did that Planned Parenthood does not perform mammograms. They just provide referrals JUST LIKE many other health care clinics through out the US. My wife just got one for free, herself.

If only we had Planned Parenthood on tape, admitting that their abortion services are popular among those looking for baby parts... THEN, the liberals would have to admit that PP is evil. Right?!
 
FSSL said:
LongGone said:
Quoting from the same article you posted:Planned Parenthood does help women nationwide get access to mammograms, as part of the health care services it provides to nearly 3 million persons each year. ...For many women PP is their only health care provider and thus the only way they will get a referral for a mammogram.

... so, you just pointed out, just as I did that Planned Parenthood does not perform mammograms. They just provide referrals JUST LIKE many other health care clinics through out the US. My wife just got one for free, herself.

If only we had Planned Parenthood on tape, admitting that their abortion services are popular among those looking for baby parts... THEN, the liberals would have to admit that PP is evil. Right?!

What I pointed out was the article you posted stated that they pay for the mammograms.

Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement said there is no profit and the price of $30-$100. The edited video, released July 14 by an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical Progress, leaves the impression that Nucatola is talking about about PP affiliates making money from fetal tissue. The edited video ignores other things Nucatola said that contradict that idea.

What is evil is to edit a video to bear false witness so that facts are changed to advance your agenda.
 
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